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   Captain Redbeardposted 12 years ago

   Let's have a serious discussion, no name calling or fire and brimestone here. Let's look at the evidence shall we? I am asking for evidence of one thing science has discovered that the Bible doesn't support. Please don't post aggressively, give a bit of time for the other side to come back with a response.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A. I don't see anything to dispute here.
      
      B. Your thread may be too advanced for me and most others.
      
      C. I don't even understand why this would be a question.

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      MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Homosexuality in nature.
      
      muhahaha
      
      AND...
      
      Dominant homosexual necrophilia among ducks...
      
      MUHAHAHA
      
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/200 … n.research

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         paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Now this seems like a total non sequitur to me. paradigmsearch is herewith running away for now. I'll check back later for clarification and understanding.

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            MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It is, but there is a point in it's absurdity.
            
            The bible, as informative as it is, does not address every single issue in the world.  There are many things that lay outside of the realm of all religious texts.  The battle between science and religion is both ridiculous and unnecessary.  They address different realms. 
            
            Claiming that either is superior is attempting to compare apples and oranges.  Saying that they address the same issues is absurd and nothing but breeding ground for hostilities.
            
            Give unto Caesar (or science) what is Caesar's...Give unto God what is God's.
            
            Please don't make be break verses out about choosing who's realm is who's concern... they always piss everyone off.
            
            P.S. I used the ducks because 1. it is a damn interesting study and 2. I was pretty sure there was no verse in the bible that included the subject.

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               paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Seriously, looks like I've been asleep at the switch here...
               
               Edit: All bolded text is paradigmsearch's responses.

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               Captain Redbeardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               WOW That happened alot faster than I thought!! The prize goes to Mellisa!
               
               "Claiming that either is superior is attempting to compare apples and oranges.  Saying that they address the same issues is absurd and nothing but breeding ground for hostilities.
               
               Give unto Caesar (or science) what is Caesar's...Give unto God what is God's."
               
               Good show. OK, thread is here by closed. Go home, nothing more to add here

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         brotheryochananposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         hope this helps.
         
         Even though there may be homosexuality in nature and other strange events, do not make a case for anything other than, animals live on instinct and by their senses; In human terms, flesh. They are souls by the fact that they have life and move around and think.
         Man, given the ability to reason and discipline themselves, therefore thinks differently, giving him accountability before God. Animals follow the strongest impulse without disciplining themselves, as they are created and have no accountability before God for their actions.
         So even though theses things go on in nature is not an excuse or evidence to say that these things, when applied to mankind are not sinful.
         Just sayin 

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            MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And there is biblical evidence to support this?  Because, by the definition of the challenge there is nothing that science has discovered that isn't supported by the bible.
            
            So please, exactly where does the bible support dominant homosexual necrophilia in male ducks?  Don't tell me what man does, because that's not what I'm asking.   
            I don't care whether they are sinful or not, that is irrelevant.  Please stay specifically on topic... as you do tend to meander.

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               brotheryochananposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               well, there is the curse placed back in genesis 3:17-19 and Romans 8:22 and Genesis 1:31 "it was very good" (obviously deterioration has occurred since: 
               the second law of thermodynamics, which states that in every system - whether physical or biological - an innate  tendency toward decrease of order and complexity
               http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tech/node81.html
               
               but that was just ME andering.

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                  Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  It is still "very good". In fact because the term "very good" is so vague, it could mean just about anything. "Very good" for the purpose that God intended? Or "very good" in the fundy interpretation where all animals (including those specifically designed/evolved to be carnivorous) were vegetarian, and there was no death (including no animal death)?

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                  Captain Redbeardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  See I thought of "As a dog returns to vomit so does a man return to his sin" To imply that animals have their own issues apart from us but are a picure as to what our hedonistic nature is.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And
      
      "Support" might be too strong a word. How about "denial", "objection", or "refutation"?
      
      I do not perceive this as an issue.

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      darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      hhh crisitan suufer too from egraissive postes,,,,  life,,,
      
      but just e questions :
      
      1 could the gospel dont anny scientifice facts soo all the science dont contradict with automaitically?
      2 the least aboute e relgion that there teaching in faith dont contradict with them each other but in cristianity you have trinity , mormons , jesus_ yachew who have sex with his mother , and e lot and e lot of other currents
      
      at least you have one faith if you dont have 1 faitth soo how you could approach others

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         MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Okay, ignoring the actual content of the post for now...
         
         Seriously? You know words like automatically and contradict, use commas correctly,  and spell "could" and "science" correctly but misspell "any"? Really?
         
         I'm guessing you are going for the "ESL" thing.  That's fine, but if so you might want to drop the use of contractions.  ESL students almost never use contractions in speech, therefore obviously they don't use them in writing either.
         
         Look, I really don't care about the specifics of your chosen persona, but your deliberate murder of the English language makes my teeth hurt.

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      1. The scientific impossibility that all of humanity came from a single human female. A female that according to the bible had only two 'male' children. (Adam and Eve)
      
      2. The scientific impossibility that all life on earth came from a single male/female pair. That this 'replenishment' happened and the carnivours didn't need to eat any of the other animals during the re-population of earth. (Noah's Ark)

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         A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What about the Land of Nod in which Cain found a wife and had a son, Enoch?

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            Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Again according to the bible Adam and Eve were the only examples of humanity in existence...therefore the land of Nod had to be non-existent, or the bible had to be flawed.

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               Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Well it doesn't say how many years passed between Cain entering the land of Nod and getting married. Perhaps 20 years in which time perhaps Eve gave birth to a daughter which are not told about and she went to Nod where she met Cain.
               
               Alternatively Adam and Eve are allegorical poetry that are not to be understood as two literal people. In which case the Land of Nod may have been populated by a load of georgeous hotties.

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                  Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Where did the people of Nod come from??? Since only Adam and Eve existed?
                  
                  
                  If the people of Nod came from Adam and Eve then Cain married his sister?

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                     Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     From a literalist point if view they would be other children of Adam and Eve. Children we are not told about because Cain, Abel and Seth are the focus kf the story.
                     
                     Or
                     
                     As I said earlier Adam and Eve being allegorical suggests there were also other people.
                     
                     Or
                     
                     Adam and Eve are literal but were the first amongst humanity to know God, and creation itself is allegorical.

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                        Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        -Or- the bibles are just an attempt by flawed/imperfect beings to understand something they are not truly capable of understanding...

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                           A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           And, you are truly capable of understanding?

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               A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Are you surprised the Bible is flawed?

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                  Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  No.
                  
                  Anything a flawed being is involved in must also be somehow flawed.
                  Only a perfect being can create or understand perfection. Humans are not an example of a perfect being.

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                     A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     LOL! It's as if "perfection" was even a concept relative to anything in the universe other than our own perceptions of it.

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         Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Fish....
         
         
         Maybe the animals all ate fish during the repopulation???

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            Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Can lions swim?

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               Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Noah could have brought nets and other fishing tackle...

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                  Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Can lions operate fishing nets and other tackle?

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                     Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Does the concept of 'feeding the animals' being a part of Noah's job escape you?
                     
                     
                     

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                        Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I just think that seeing as there were so many animals, Noah would have been far to busy to catch fish for them all. You've heard the saying "give a lion a fish and you feed him for today. Teach a lion how to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."

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                           Mikel G Robertsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           My bad, I thought you were being serious... lol

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                              Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              

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         darknight444posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         uhhhhhhhh that s all
         
         i will give you e book aboute scientifique proof of the holy coran
         
         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU
         http://miraclesofthequran.com/predictions_index.html

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It really is unfortunate that Muslims are compelled to lie about scientific proof in the Quran. For example, I found an article on radar and satellite technology which is claimed to have been predicted by the Quran.
            
            Here is the logic of how it was determined... baffling, indeed.
            
            "The use of the Arabic verb "alanna," meaning "We have made malleable"
            
            This form of iron, known as "soft magnetic iron" because of its magnetic properties is particularly used in radar and satellite technology."
            
            "The wind being told to blow at his command..." may be a reference to electromagnetic signals being transmitted as desired in the air thanks to the use of soft iron."
            
            

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   skyfireposted 12 years ago

   Yoga ?
   
   Tai Chi ?
   
   Kung Fu ?
   
   Sheng Fui ?
   
   Reddit, Youtube and Hubpages trolls ?
   
   Sarah Palin ?
   
   Lady Gaga ?
   
   Justin Bible ?
   
   Water on Mars ?

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   OK, you guys! Stop that!

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   skyfireposted 12 years ago

   I knew that Captain will stop if i threaten with the name of great Lady gaga. It works on every living creature on this planet.

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      Captain Redbeardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      truer words have never been spoken. You know what else isn't in the bible, me.

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         paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Tangled being as we all are...

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Tell me of Lady Gaga. Is my Snooki article inferior as such?

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         Captain Redbeardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Snooki? Would she be mentioned in your cancer hub? I like to think that whole show is a cancer on the american culture

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            MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I agree.  I tried watching it once just to see what all the hype was about.  I could actually feel my brain cells dying.

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               Disappearingheadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Snooki? 

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                  Captain Redbeardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  This is the best forum discussion ever to grace HP.
                  
                  @Melissa, awesome.

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               paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               

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