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   Jeramiposted 11 years ago

   Most folks can't see the spirit world.   And many that do see it think that it lies in the the outer fringes of our reality. When in reality; the physical world lies in a small portion of the outer fringes of the spiritual world. (I think) 
       We are the product of IT and can only understand that portion that "IT" deems necessary for our existence.   "IT" has not given us the necessary tools to prove "IT" exists.  Cause it isn't necessary and in all likleyhood, Not beneficial to us to be able to do so.

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      AEvansposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree. It has given us the necessary tools to understand "its" existence; but there are many who do not pay attention.

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         Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Was just posting a thought.     Not so well thought out                                                                           I think we have been given enough tools to get a glimpse of "IT"  but only the tip of the iceburg so to speak;  kinda like sitting in a boat looking at the shoreline. 
         I'd not be seeing the country    JUST the shoreline.

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            pennyofheavenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Theoretically we would be like John coffee in the green mile. Seeing, hearing, feeling everything, going possibly nuts? Would defeat the purpose of glimpsing the IT part that we need to glimpse.

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               Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Good morning everybody
               I'm Just speaking off the cuff some more. 
               
               Penny  you are right...Kinda sorta  ; Though John was only aware of a small portion of that which he experienced. He did have faith in what he knew to be true! 
               I think ...  unless we are there on the other side we can never do more than to see through a glass darkly

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         jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Nods.
         All the necessary information is genetically built/programmed into us, and the mental, physical ability to apply that information without strain or stress.
         James.

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            Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I gotta agree ......    We see what we want to see.

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      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What do you mean, "Most"? Who are these very "special" people who can? What do they see? Why do they see it and others don't? What physical attribute do they have that allows them to see this world?

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         galleryofgraceposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         For some "The veil has been lifted".

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         Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What atribute do you posess that causes you to see the things which you see?   Are YOU "Special"

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            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            My eyes. Duh.
            
            So, are you going to answer my question?

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               Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               What do you mean, "Most"?
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               me
               Is this a real question?   ..What do you think  "Most" means
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               you
               Who are these very "special" people who can?
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               me
               Why do you feel that these are "Special" people?,  I didn't say they were special!
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               you
               What do they see? Why do they see it and others don't?
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               me
               Do you know why anyone see the things that they see, or why they don't see what they don't see?
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               you
               What physical attribute do they have that allows them to see this world?
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               The only answer I can imagine would be  "willingness to see"

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   Emile Rposted 11 years ago

   Hi jerami. I think you are right in some ways. I don't know about anything giving us the tools. Maybe it's just a question of frequency. Like; we can hear a lot of the sounds elephants make, and we don't hear a dog whistle.
   
   I do believe everything that exists would have to be encompassed in the space within this universe. So, if the spiritual exists, maybe it is by our choice, on the most basic level of who we are, that we can't detect it. Because our most basic level is the part that is connected. The part that made the choice to participate in this manifestation of reality.
   
   Maybe there will come a time where we will become able to 'see the spiritual'. Once we are able to determine how this reality is possible. How it rises from the energy of the universe.

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      Jeramiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      we are able to determine how "THIS  Reality" is possible' being the key words (I think)
      
      Emile R
      And a great big good morning to you too.
      And the frequency thingie you mentioned ???    would have to be the doorway through which we would have to understand and pass through   (I think ???)

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      jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well said, Emile.
      Love it. The frequencies of light are actually what made things visible-invisible, solidify {physic} and such. What, then, is the proper frequency for a human to exist between the visible-invisible and both be tangible. Keeping in mind sound is also a frequency of light...
      
      James.

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         Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Being tangible is an illusion. At the atomic level it is the negative charge of electrons repelling the electrons of other interacting atoms that generates resistance, and thus the illusion of solidity. If the size of an atom's nucleus was that of a tennis ball, then the atom's electrons would be about 2.5 miles away. So atoms are virtually nothing but empty space. Thus you, me, everyone is practically nothing but empty space. If your electrons did not repel those belonging to a wall, you could walk straight through it.
         
         So is the spirit world also material but consisting of different subatomic particles that do not react with our own except in some exceptional circumstances? Who knows, maybe one day CERN is bored with the Higgs Boson, they might detect ghosts in the machine.

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            jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Nice. Ghosts in a particle accelerator. Spooky.
            
            But, yes, I think the unseen subatomic particles -or rather the unknown frequencies of subatomic particles is that thing called the spiritual frequency. Hey, the Universe is 98% unseen, so nearly all of it is space. But space is not just void, it is completely full. Is space the ruach, the breath? Hmm. One wonders. If you and I were to consider the text on this, space is "the word of his power", which essentially upholds {maintains, stabilizes, allows formation, physic} all things; like water vapor and air in a balloon.
            
            James

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               Disappearingheadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               It is an interesting quantum-philosophical thought that if in him all things hold together and what holds things together are numerous strong/weak quantum forces, then will we find Creator's fingerprints at the quantum level as well as his glory declared in the Heavens?

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   Jeramiposted 11 years ago

   A truth is such a simple thing; .....    until we intelectualize it to extreem.
   
   We can even rationalize a perfect love to death.   Didn't take no pictures (for proof)  but I have seen it myself, in my life and in those around me

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