Hubs going in and out of "featured"

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   wildernessposted 11 years ago

   I've got one hub (a help guide for hubbers) that went idle last year as it never gets much traffic.  This year it (presumably) went through the QAP and became featured.  Still no traffic, of course, and it went back unfeatured.  Then (presumably) a few views made it featured for a week or two, then back to unfeatured.  Now it's featured again this morning.
   
   Question: what does google think about an article that continually puts a noindex tag on, then off and back on again?  Is the algorithm smart enough to pick up on that and question it?  Might they slap my account for arbitrary or questionable behavior? 
   
   How about it, bulging brains of hubberland - is this a potential disaster waiting to happen?
   
   It really would be nice to have the option to put that hub in the unfeatured category and just leave it there if it never sees any organic traffic.

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   yupperclubposted 11 years ago

   Is Google SMART enough?!  I think you should re-think.  I did not call them Godfather Google in a Hub for no reason.  You can rest assured.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Well, then are they dumb enough to think there's a problem?  Probably a better question, at that...

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         summerberrieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This question was proposed to Paul Edmondson a few weeks back. He chose to put one of his hubs through the process you described and apparently there is no harm done. The hub returns back to its original rank each time. It appears what happens is the hub rank really does not move in google's eyes. What happens is it is when "you" place a no-index mega tag on the hub url google just hides it from view(google does not "remove" the hub and once "you' place the index tag back on the url then you have given google the green light to "reveal" the hub, again. The hub never really goes anywhere.
         Note: this is all speculative based on my personal research, experience and based on Paul's "control" hub.

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            wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I remember that thread, but thought Paul only did it once.
            
            This hub has had the no-index tag put on at least 3 times in the past 6 weeks or so (that I've noticed), and that could be a different story.  I hear what you're saying and mostly agree with the conclusion.  Google may not see this as any different than getting a comment - the hub has changed a little, that's all.
            
            Or it could put a higher priority on a no-index tag than on other types of edit and take offense somehow at that.  Those algorithms are so strange (and complex) that I don't think even Google understands them as well as they should.

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               summerberrieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Yep, I hear what you are saying and it has been a personal concern for me. Some of my hubs have done the same as yours. I think once you're hubber score goes to a certain number all your hubs become featured again.
               The idea is "sweet" but hubber scores fluctuate so much that for us hubbers whose score goes between 95 to 100 like a rollercoaster ride have their hubs go in and out of featured frequently.   
               
               I chose to leave my seasonal recipe hubs not featured because I did not want to keep tweaking them  for the very reason you stated. I chose to be safe than sorry and was going to wait until the end of the summer to tweak them and get them re-featured. But now they are out there and probable will be unfeatured as score as my hubber score drops again.
               
               It would be nice for us who want to play it safe have the option to keep these hubs as non-featured until we are ready to get them back on the playing field.
               
               Maybe suggest it in the suggest an new feature thread? I think it would be a worthy suggestion for hubbers to have the option.

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                  wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I hadn't noticed, but I did jump a few points in hubber score.  You could very well be right about that score influencing whether or not a marginal hub (traffic wise) is featured.
                  
                  I did suggest it a while back, Summer, but it's not high on the priority list.

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            summerberrieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I promised to stay out of the forums after a hubber friend of mine was permanently banned. I invited people to throw rotten tomatoes at me if they catch me here, I'll give myself one. Just  in case.
            
            
            

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               wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                 In that case, I owe you a double thanks for the answer!  Now wipe off the tomato juice and go back to work.

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                  summerberrieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  http://markewbie.hubpages.com/hub/Annoying-Emoticons
                  
                  
                  

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               paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               Welcome back.

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                  summerberrieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks

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   Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago

   From what I can tell, nothing really changes with a Hub if you no index and add it back multiple times.  However, when Google sees the no index tag, they generally pay less attention to it.  So, it could take longer for them to recrawl itand add it back when the no index tag is removed.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That's my own best guess as well, I just don't have the knowledge or experience to back it with.  Thanks, Paul
      
      And, in this case at least, I don't care how long it takes to crawl it.  I'd just as soon it stay unfeatured anyway.

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      agilitymachposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      My question is why the featuring, unfeaturing?  I'm forcing one of my hubs through QAP to get it, hopefully, featured for good.  I rewrote it, gave it a more searchable title, etc.
      
      What's the reason behind the featuring/unfeaturing?  Is it a bug or hubs going through QAP over and over?  I'm a bit confused by it.  I'm glad it appears no harm is done to the hubs, although the ones of mine doing this are also my low traffic, creative writing hubs.

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   yupperclubposted 11 years ago

   Amen.

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