How do you improve traffic for your hubs? (excluding social media)

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   Louise Latelyposted 11 years ago

   Do you have an external blog that you link to your hubs? Do you write articles for an online magazine? And is it recommended to specialise in one or two areas - and connect a blog to these hub topics?
   
   I receive bursts of traffic when I promote my hubs on social media but I am looking into other ways to improve my traffic. Hugely appreciative of any answer i can get!

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      Simone Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I know everyone has heard this a million times before, but the regular publication of high quality content that contributes something new and unique to the already-existing body of online content is the best way to go.
      
      Working on making titles search-friendly is also incredibly important, as is running thorough competitive research: hubpages.com/learningcenter/How-to-Craft-a-Search-Friendly-Title
      
      These are all things one does far before the Hub is published, but they make an incredible impact.

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         Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Many thanks for these tips Simone. And I will definitely look into how I can make my titles more search friendly - like you said a bit of research before publishing probably goes a long way.

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         WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         QUOTE: "While Ralph Waldo Emerson may have held this belief as he is quoted as saying, ‘Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door,’ such a belief is clearly unjustified based on numerous marketing principles and practices. In most instances, superior product offerings do not automatically market themselves and drive consumers to seek them out and acquire them."
         
         http://www.marketing91.com/better-mousetrap-fallacy/

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      mcxniftycallsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      When it comes to traffic, I just spend extra 1 hour on Google keyword research, keyword analysis and making search friendly title and some on page SEO when writing hub and that's all.
      And I am getting 2500 views everyday of my 52 article and the traffic is just from Google search. I never promoted my hubs on social websites not back linked anywhere. Even I don't comment and follow other hubs and hubbers.
      I just publish article and leave it and still getting reasonable and continues traffic from search engines ...

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      wowtgpposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      SEO is really important factor in determining traffic you get to you hubs.

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      Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That's the difficulty with social traffic - it's normally temporary, as you've found. It's also a great deal of work to develop the networks (not saying that the effort isn't worth it long term - it is, but my advice is to start off with the basics. And the basics are finding good niches that get plenty of searches - AKA Keyword Research).
      
      To get good traffic consistently, day in day out, you need to choose the right keywords. The right keywords are one's that get plenty of searches per month but do not have too strong competition.
      
      People are always asking how much monthly search volume is good to go for? I'd say anything over 1,500 EXACT searches per month for an article monetised with HP ads/adsense.
      
      And don't aim too low! I've seen some people say don't go for anything with over 8000 exact searches per month. I say why not?! If the competition is weak and it's a phrase that has the potential to do well on this platform then go for it!

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   GoldenThreadPressposted 11 years ago

   Building traffic takes time. No one gets traffic immediately. Follow what Simone says and keep writing quality Hubs. Social media does help, e.g. Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Google+, etc. and as you mentioned you will see a burst of traffic. Visiting niche sites, writing as a contributor author on these sites, too, will help get your name well-known. Also, be a participant on HubPages. This will drive internal traffic and visitors to your Hubs. But again, traffic is one of those things that will ebb and flow but the more you are known, the more you will see the fruits of your labors. Best Regards!--Deb

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      Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Deb! And thanks for your answer - you are right, it does take time to build traffic - and I should really be more patient! Niche sites is a good tip - that's where the web users will go for info.

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         newgulfjobsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

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            WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            If I get it correctly, a niche site is a website with a very focused content and a clearly defined target audience. An example would be "Private healthcare in California" or "Private healthcare in Sacramento". Once you identify your niche, you will have to study who your competitors are and whether you think you have what it takes to out beat the competition in terms of attracting visitors... not necessary the best but at least be among the top 10 sites to appear on Google Search's first page.

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               younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @walterpoon, i think you are right, but what about a topic like 'beauty' what will be its niche site then if the blog is on beauty care not on one thing specific like skin care alone or makeup alone.

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                  WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Same thing... if you cover a big scope, then your target audience is more general and you will lose out to those websites which specialize, in terms of traffic from those who are specifically seeking skin care information. On the other hand, if your niche is too specific, then you will lose out on visitors seeking related information that you do not provide. The general rule is that "to cater to the whole world is to cater to nobody." It's a balancing game.
                  
                  It can get quite technical in the hands of experts. They will determine the potential number of visitors for your niche via Google Trends, say, and the level of competition for each keyword. Since every niche has competition, they will look for one where the competition is not too great for a new and upcoming site and a potential target audience that is not too small. Anyway, too technical for me!!!

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                     younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     thanks Walterpoon for this info, i really liked the golden rule you have put '"to cater to the whole world is to cater to nobody." . These days for my beauty blog i am just trying to make a balance, earlier i used to write on topics which could be read even 1 year from now like how to get rid of acne etc etc, but now i am also somewhat focussing on latest beauty trends, products because these are the one which people love to read about. i hope i am able to get success

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                        WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Younghopes, I wish you the very best. I started my own websites first before I came here early this month. And I can tell you that if I had found HubPages in 2008, I would not have started my own websites. And I would probably be earning at least 3 times more than what I am getting now with those efforts, even though I am presently getting monthly payments from AdSense.
                        
                        Cashing on the latest trends is right. You also need to go and get traffic from the various social networks and beauty-related forums and blogs. This is a game of 20% writing and 80% marketing. But I hate marketing, and I am aware that I will not be making as much with my hubs or my websites. I prefer to write and any money I get is a bonus. But if you want to really make money, do remember the 20%-80% rule that all the internet gurus are talking about.

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                           younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           awesome tips, you really made my day today, thank you so much for this yet another rule '20-80'. I would surely follow your advice, i have observed that simply adding posts to the blog does not help much, it takes time for google to search them out, but with marketing they tend to reach wider audience, I am also trying my luck here at hubpages, havent yet received any payment though, i hope it also works out, from your discussion it appears that hubpages has been a mega booster for you, good to know that and thanks again.

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                              WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Younghopes, I was surprised that the hubs here are so quickly indexed by Google. As for your own blog, you need to register them yourself. There are a lot of free web submission service in the internet. Just type "Free Web Submission" in Google Search. Still, it will take time for Google to index, because they focus more on sites like HubPages with a high ranking, so our own websites get indexed only after a week or probably even longer. 66% of my traffic for my websites comes from Google, so do not ignore its importance. The best part is I don't have to do anything (in fact, I can't, even if I want to) . As for social networks, it involves a lot of work. But I get quite a bit of clicks through social networks like Facebook. Never ask your friend to click because it is too risky and just not worth it.  (Hahaha, I should be talking about ethics instead but truth is most of us have a natural tendency to hope that our friends will click for us.)

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                                 younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 thank you so much, i just had a look and my god the list is too long for these free web submission sites. i will try to submit to as many as possible and hope it works out. Just one more thing to ask- do i have to submit to these sites on a weekly basis or whenever i have my content updated or should i just submit it only once and it is done? Thanks again for being so helpful

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                                    WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Nooooo!!!! You just choose one of the companies. Multiple submissions to the same search engine will get you banned! For HubPages, you don't  need to submit because everything has already been done for you.
                                    
                                    You can test by putting your hub title in quotation marks ("xxx") in Google Search. Then test your own blog articles to see whether they have already been indexed by Google and Yahoo (the 2 most important ones). You need to do it monthly but not more than once a month. (But me lazy... few months once, LOL.)

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                                       younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       omg,,,thanks so much i was about to do it on all..i also tested it on google, and saw a few  of my posts getting indexed. Thanks for this informative discussion, i mean the whole bunch of posts by which you have really introduced me today to this social networking, thanks a lot, have a great day and a wonderful week ahead!!!

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   wildernessposted 11 years ago

   The only social media (if you can call it that) that I've found to be of lasting value is Pinterest.  FB, G+ and all the rest seem to give a quick bump, which quickly dies away, just as you found. 
   
   Pinterest, however, seems to continue to provide some traffic as it is built and your pins are re-pinned.

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      yougotmeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hello there wilderness!
      
      Sorry for butting in like this, but will you help me know how to utilize Pinterest better by recommending hubs about it? I tried the Help Center, and it helped me understand what it is. But, I'm more curious on how it works, and how it will be able to bring more exposure to my hubs.
      
      Thank you!

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         Tealparadiseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Not wilderness, bit I pin a lot and figured I would add my 2 cents.
         
         Pinterest is only really useful for people who are ready to actually invest in the platform.  Simply pinning 20 hubs doesn't do anything.  Pinterest is similar to Twitter in that followers are everything.  Well, followers and group boards.
         
         Actually, Pinterest is exactly like a visual version of Twitter but with more defined categories.
         
         If you pin a good picture- it could be literally anything.  Even totally unrelated to your hub, and it will get traffic.
         
         If you pin a bad picture with a description of what your hub is about, it will get zero traffic.
         
         That is the most common mistake I see people making when trying to market on Pinterest.  Advertisers don't realize that the picture itself links back to the site and there is no need to add a link in the "comment" section, or write some ad slogan there.  They don't realize that this just hurts the pin by marking it as advertising.  Another way to stop a pin dead is adding a huge watermark.
         
         My most successful pins are great pictures which relate to a topic that pinners like.  DIY, food and drink, decorating, etc all do well there.
         
         For example, in my drinking games hubs I pinned an infographic image.  Pinners love infographics and it is repinned constantly.  I receive tons of traffic from it despite the merely tangential relation to my actual hub.
         
         But unless you are very lucky, you need followers to see and repin your image.  The best case is to apply to a group board and then pin there.  I have been invited to a lot of groups and those usually get my pin viral simply because of the huge follower numbers.

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            ClusterCritterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Wait, I don't need to add another link in the comment section in Pinterest? That's actually a massively good news to me!

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               Tealparadiseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Nope!  In fact, please don't

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      agilitymachposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, I've found the same with FB.  I do get a huge bump, but then it settles down and becomes a more steady flow.  I have some articles that just get the FB bump and die away, but my articles that most "hit home" with my target audience get shared and shared and shared.  I have one that has been getting steady FB traffic for months now. (I'm still relatively new here, so months is about as long as I go.) However, Pinterest only gives me a few hits. 
      
      I strongly suspect it depends on what you are writing about and how niche your market is.  For instance, my market is very niche.  The community I deal with is limited on Pinterest.  We all hang out on FB.  Pinterest seems to be more of a place to market general topic articles.  For instance if I wrote an article on how to stop acne, Pinterest would be where to market it.  However if I wrote an article on the pros and cons of different horse bits, FB would be the place to market it, IF I already had access to the horse community.
      
      I'm finding FB is a great source for continuing hits - not just bumps alone, although I get them too, but I also have found topic related forums to be of help.  These give me a slow trickle of traffic, and they give me a back link.  Of course, you can't spam a forum with your links, so I link in appropriate topics preferably already started by another user.  Say a user is complaining about their dog trainer, I can post my article on how to find a good dog trainer and boom - views AND back link.
      
      I actually find forums that are less active to be more helpful as your link stays near the top of the site and gets hit for months.
      
      Like I said though, I'm new and still learning.  I know there must be other ways to drive traffic, but these are the few that have worked for me with a niche market so far.

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         Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         thank you agilitymach! That's a good comparison of FB and Pinterest. Currently I feel to shy to put my work on FB but that might change! When you post on FB - do you post your links on different group pages or to your friends?

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            agilitymachposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I have a fan page on FB for my writing.  It has far, far more followers than I do on Hubpages because my niche is obviously not hanging out here.   I developed the fan page first by creating it and then posting about it on my personal page.
            
            After beginning to post articles on my fan page, those people spread those articles, and more people came in to "like" my fan page.  It grows every day now, and with each article I post on it, I get more views than the last article. And I get more fans.  It all slowly snowballs.
            
            I still post on my personal page occasionally, especially if the article I posted on my fan page gets good reviews there.
            
            One thing FB does though is my "fans" post comments there and not on my articles here.  As HP apparently looks at number of comments posted here to judge article interaction, that is a bit of a take-away.  My audience isn't going to join Hubpages as they aren't writers, so I don't get many comments on my articles.

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   Theophanesposted 11 years ago

   If you e-mail a lot or talk on forums it's helpful to have a signature that links to either a particular article or your profile. I've been surprised how often I hear people say they found me in this way. If you have a blog you can also throw up links to related articles every now and then. Word-of-mouth is really what it all comes down to. I had an insane 3 day spike of activity because of one article being liked on FaceBook a few hundred times and I'm not the one who originally posted it there! Sometimes other people will do all the work for you - which is always a nice ego booster!

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      Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Very good tip re adding a link in my email signature! I hadn't thought of that. I really hope word-of-mouth will work for me one day - thanks for your response!

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   VVanNessposted 11 years ago

   lol Social media is what it's all about. That's like asking how you can gain lots of weight without eating carbs or getting pregnant. Twitter, Facebook, and Pinterest are the easiest because they give you a link to it right at the top of your article when you publish. Digg, Reddit, Stumbleupon, Google+ and LinkedIn are also great ones!
   
   You definitely want to find a niche if you want credibility with Google, even if it's a few niches. Give it a shot. BY the way, Google is also considered social media.

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      Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Heheh - very true social media is not to be underestimated! What is your experience of Stumbleupon?

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         VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I really like it! Essentially, I post my articles as things that I like, and they not only add to all of the "stumbles" possible in those categories for people to find, but when people visit your page, it's absolutely COVERED in all of your wonderful articles for them to like. Clicking on the pictures takes them directly to your article. BINGO!

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            Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you!! I will definitely check it out!

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         NitroDposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I love StumbleUpon but I have still a doubt about it: do you get more traffic on your "likes" when actually you "stumble" other pages or is it just my impression?

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            VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not sure what you mean. I pat my articles into my different topic appropriate lists on my Stumbleupon account. From there it gets a topic label I choose. Everything that likes that topic and stumbles through it on their account, has an opportunity to find my link. So obviously the more articles I put into my different topics, the likelihood that someone stumbles on my work increases.
            Also, if they find something they like, it will bring then back to my page to surf thru my likes or stumble through them. I get a lot of traffic there!

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               NitroDposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Cool! Really thanks for the hints. It sounds like SU = Pinterest in some way

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               younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               @VVanNess: thanks a lot for your details about stumbleupon. But there is not thing i want to ask you: the time post a link there on SU, i get around 5-10 visitors immediately on the post on my blog from there, but after that i never ever get any visitor. Also, i am unable to get many followers there so in a way i have found SU not working for me. I have a beauty blog and it is not just my own beauty articles i post there, but also articles from various other sites too i add there so that it doesnt look spammy. but still not much result, i would really appreciate your help on SU, thanks

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                  WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Younghopes... there was once I had 500 visits to my website when I posted an article in StumbleUpon. A friend of mine had 1,500 visits. Yes, in StumbleUpon, the traffic is instantaneous and short-lived because of the system they are using.
                  
                  It is not that StumbleUpon is no good. We just have to study how to make it work for us. Seems like there is a time when posting is more effective. I was told it is around 11.00 pm Malaysian time on weekdays... would that be around 10.00 am in US? We just have to experiment and join the various forums to learn from each other.
                  
                  Honestly, I have not been using it for a long time now, after I changed webhost and my new webhost does not provide AwStat to track my visits. I am using Google Analytics now, so I will try and experiment with StumbleUpon again.

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                     younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     thanks Walterpoon, i agree with you that it is a very short lived traffic, and perhaps that is the reason why i just dont like it any more. also it is very difficult to gain follower there, and hence article doesnt get the required attention but still there are some of the posts which have 39k visits too on SU

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   Barbara Kayposted 11 years ago

   Redgage is another one to try.

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      Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Barbara - would you mind giving me some background on Redgage? I have heard of it but not sure what it is.

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         younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I am having an account at redgage, till now i have added more than 30 links there but none has returned to hubpages to read those articles. people are experiencing wide traffic gain from it, but it hasnt helped me out

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Awesome. Thanks! I'll go check it out this afternoon. I'd love to hear more about it as well!

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   Woodmckinneyposted 11 years ago

   Wow, good tip on Facebook - weighing the pros and cons.
   I think with Facebook, it's a double edged sword really. Either post the majority, or all of your article, and he no HP views, or post a link, and engage HALF the potential readers.
   
   I am an admin of 6 FB pages, I don't think I'll be adding HP anytime soon.

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   jansharesposted 11 years ago

   Updating your hubs works. Everytime you update your hubs, your followers get the memo and may take a second look, as well as other hubbers seeing them for the first time.
   
   1) Keep them fresh by checking for things you may have missed before. Add new text.
   2) Check your summaries to make sure they capture Googles attention.
   3) Re-do titles and make sure they are searchable and are worded the way the average person inputs into a search engine.
   
   I learned this stuff recently and it has increased my traffic significantly. I also email my hub links to friends and use the tried-and-true "tell two friends and so on" method of sharing. Good luck!

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   younghopesposted 11 years ago

   to me fb and twitter has both been just too bad to talk to about when it comes to hubpages, as already said before in this forum, the article gets attention on one or two days and then it dies down. you can bank upon building a follower base here on HP. pinterest works well and most important do a search for keywords before you right article because if you want to make money you need to write upon those articles which are being searched on sites like google, so i a person loves that article for which perhaps he might have been searching for long, and finds it on your hub, he will surely 'like it' pin it which is more appealing to get traffic than if you do it on your own.

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      pkdoo7posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      social media advertising  offers ever green suppoort for articles , posting links on FB, twitter , and so many other places can make more chances to rise readerrship , boosting up page view for an exclusive peace of writing ,definitely become easier with social networking sites . hub pages has also a vast majority and could be used for same purpose .

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Personally I post my articles everywhere. I have a Twitter account, 2 Facebooks, a Stumbleupon, a Reddit, a Digg, and a Pinterest account. I let them all work for me. Why not? Oh, I also have a business website and blog where I post them.

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    luciano63posted 11 years ago

    Hi, I believe that traffic comes also from your topic...or niche. If you write about something common for which internet is already full of infos and answers...it is going to be hard to drive good traffic ...however if you have a particular niche it s going to be easier... In my case I have my trusty followers about my Hubs and the topic is always the same Car design education tips. When I tried to write about a different topic I had no chance!

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    younghopesposted 11 years ago

    is someone using reddit for traffic? Whenever i post a link there, it says 'you are a new user, read our guidelines first, then post' this happens everytime i go there. i just wish to add that i have reddit account which is more than a year old.
    
    What about delicious, has anyone of you got traffic from the site? please give your opinion

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       Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I have used reddit before - the reddit community really don't like users advertising their products so it's best if you engage in a discussion that relates to your topic and then try to post a link. I had a few issues when I tried to post a link but I have finally figured it out!

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          WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Louise, I haven't use Reddit yet. Is it better than Facebook or Delicious in getting traffic to your hub or websites?

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             Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             I posted three links on Reddit and got banned.  And flamed.
             
             
             

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                younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                OMG..perhaps you have posted all those three links from your own blog/hub

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             Louise Latelyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             WalterPoon, I don't think it's better than fb - I havent heard about delicious though, what's that? I have got quite a lot of views from reddit but you need to be careful as you don't want to be seen as 'selling' your page.

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                WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Louise, thanks for the warning... I haven't use Reddit yet but I believe I must have registered years ago.

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    vagabond mysticposted 11 years ago

    Please , I wonder If I'm the only one reading mine . Any advice good or bad would be appreciated .         
    Vagabond Mystic

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       WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Some 2,000 years ago, the great Jesus Christ said, "Give, and you will receive. Your gift will return to you in full -- pressed down, shaken together to make room for more, running over, and poured into your lap. The amount you give will determine the amount you get back."
       
       In the context of HubPages, visit other people's hubs and they will visit yours in return. But how do they know you visited theirs? Leave some s-h-i-t... ooophhhs, some comments on their hubs and they will know, LOL.
       
       Positive comments elicit positive response, negative comments beget negative response.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

    I have gotten a few bumps from Facebook in the past several weeks, when the bands I wrote about posted a link to my Hub about them on their official FB pages. One gained several hundred views and the other exploded and got about 10,000 views over the course of about four or five days. I was floored.
    ...of course, now the whoop-de-doo has died down and both Hubs have returned to their normal, everyday, semi-comatose levels but BOY was that fun to watch while it lasted!!
    
    Pinterest hasn't done much for me at all, interest in my sort of material there appears to be minimal. I still post things because I figure hey, I went to the trouble to sign up, I may as well use it.
    
    I'm not signed up to StumbleUpon but I get occasional views from there anyway so someone there must post my stuff. Same with Reddit. Does anybody actually use Google+? Because I dont' think I've gotten a single view from there, ever.

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       WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Right, social networks help a lot to drive traffic. At present, I only use Facebook and it is the only one giving me some traffic. Need to participate in more social networks.

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       Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Google+ can be worthwhile. I've only put about 5 posts on it. I searched on GoogleSearch for one of my hubs and it is posted on the first page with my Google+ and not the hubpage url. If you click on it, it takes you direct to Google+. Then you can click on the link there. It surprised me.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

    My problem is that I'm generally anti-social by nature, so it's hard for me to get excited about joining more "social" networks. Haha.

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    brakel2posted 11 years ago

    I put several links to hubs on Google+, and have met nice people in author community. I am trying to build up my traffic. In addition, I reactivated twitter. Pinterest hasn't done much for me, but I won't give up. I need to show more interest in others on the site.
    
    It also seems that my longer hubs do get more traffic, so working on that issue. It all takes time and effort and determination.

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    psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

    Most likely for perceived (actual?) self-promotion.  They don't like that.

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    Recipes We Loveposted 11 years ago

    I tried using Facebook a couple of years ago with another website I was writing for at that time.  I couldn't see any difference in traffic, matter of fact, my Facebook page laid dormant.  Even though I have a Twitter account, I've never gotten how it would help me with the topic I write on.
    
    Now PinInterest, I like.  Whenever I post a photo and recipe, I receive an uptick in traffic.  Unfortunately, I don't post that often, due to time constraints.  I need to try doing it more often.
    
    From going to various forums on the internet and reading what writers are saying, it is beginning to look like the sites that offer people chance to write articles are going downhill.  I know the website I originally started with in 2009 and still write with, has all but lost at least half of the writers over the past 2 years due to continuous changes made where writers are making less and less money.
    
    I first joined HubPages in Nov. 2011.  It has been hit and miss for me on getting traffic.  I've had various things going on the past year including a surgery with a 20 week recuperation that cut into my writing time.  I enjoy the writing, so I hope to increase my writing this year.  But if things don't start picking up, when my husband retires next year, I may give up.

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       WalterPoonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Competition is getting more and more intense on the internet, whether you join an AdSense profit-sharing website or build your own. In the long run, I guess it doesn't make any difference where you publish your articles. You still need to get traffic on your own. But in the short run, websites like HubPages get indexed faster than your own websites. And on top of that, you get a community to provide mutual support.

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