Energy exist everywhere, are we energy being, first?

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Castlepalomaposted 10 years ago
Energy exist everywhere and in each one of us as part of a bigger mass that functions in all earthlings. Earth has it's own energy accumulation consciousness over billions of years from north and southern pole is magnetic energy. The energy wants to improve itself and accumulate knowledge like in human, energy can be called wisdom improving with time, not by going backward to the assumed smartest man on earth, Adam. Trading our knowledge in time improve our live, our spiritual thus and our consciousness.

Like in Religion more often wants to separate other groups, families and so on. Religion is too competitive instead co-creation for the Earth and Universe. Much of this negative reaction will effect our universe since we are all connected karma. More important it's better to send out happy and more positive feeling to help us and the Universe. The Earth ability to rebuild and restructure it's DNA took millions of years to create , how it possible to be done in a few thousand of years like in the Bible. Focus on raising your consciousness/energy slowly and integrate in all creature not just the jealous few. Create and support a group that can support each other without competing.
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  Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Energy could very well be the source to everything, no takers?
  
  During the day, the sun gives out light and heat energy. Electrical energy to light our way. Your car drives by powered in gasoline, a type of stored energy. Food we eat contains energy, We store energy and use that energy to work and play. Energy Is the Ability to Do Work , matter sit there like a rock. Energy is found in different forms, chemical, electrical, heat (thermal energy), light (radiant energy), mechanical energy, and nuclear energy. For example Poverty is the single most important low energy, causing death.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe.
  
  Maybe energy is the active force, with fields being the passive force. They play off each other, forming matter etc.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  MAYBE?
  I would say,
  Of course! What is going on in the rock at the subatomic level? It is not as solid as it seems!
  
  Also, dark matter/energy is energy. They do not know how it manifests but they can detect/ measure its presence. What are they detecting?
  
  "Dark matter is estimated to constitute 84.5% of the total matter in the universe, while dark energy plus dark matter constitute 95.1% of the total content of the universe."
  
  Spirit is energy.
  Thats why we don't have to worry about anything. We can be happy knowing that behind everything, its all energy and spirit. If we end up blowing up the earth, a new one will be created for us.
  I think we ARE special. That special.
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  EncephaloiDeadposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  If that were true, which it isn't, we would be able to observe and measure spirit, which we can't. So, spirit is not energy, it is just a make believe thing.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  you poor thing.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  One video I saw that was interesting was that dark matter was simply matter/energy from the future that we can't see yet. It was pretty convincing:) Not that it was convincing enough, but enough to store on the back burner for future reference.
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  Slarty O'Brianposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  There is nothing but energy.
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  Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Kathryn L Hill
  
  I would agree we are what we think, not what everyone else thinks of each one of us is , including the millions of Gods. Or your out of control of yourself.
  Spirit is just 99% unknowns, energy we know for most part in which we are in constant contact with.
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Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago
Everything has come from one source: THOUGHT. The Astral and Causal realms of existence is beyond the physical manifestation of things.
Just so y'all know.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That's interesting that you think of it that way. I've tried to think of it sort of in that manner. But it seemed kind of fuzzy in my head.
  
  I would be interested to know how you "picture" this in your mind, in detail. If you have the time to elaborate.
  
  For me, The best way I can put it is that I see it as a cycle. One morphing into the next.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  The astral level is where the invisible blue-prints come from and go back to.
  Birth brings forth the incarnation of the soul into the physical body. "Death" is only the separation of the physical form from the spiritual form. We actually have light bodies (light hearts, light lungs, etc.) In other words, the blueprints manifest as light formations after we die. We go to sleep, (or not... depending on the spiritual evolution of the individual,) for a while …( like 500 years depending on karma etc.) and then re-incarnate. Yes, the soul needs to get back the causal. This is the realm of pure bliss and joy, but we just don't want to yet. It is up to us to guide ourselves "home.")
  
  I do not know if there is a pre-destiny as you mentioned, as free will reigns supreme.
  On the causal level, the forms disappear as they become one with the formless (light) again.
  (I hope the atheists don't march in here and ruin a perfectly fine party. But, I hear a rumble.)
  My info is based on a credible source: the book I recommended to you, janesix.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, they WILL:)
  
  Do you think the blueprint is created (a willful creation by a creator) or is it just the way it is, because that's the only way it can be?
  
  Or a third way, that anything is possible?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I actually think that I created myself.
  I envisioned who I wanted to be and creatively formed my initial personality. I did it with great joy… am still doing it… and will continue to do it until I really want to just hang it up. Or when I really love Creator… who I borrowed all this energy from. Something like that.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  
  I sometimes think along those lines. I don't prefer it though, it just feels so chaotic when I do.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I feel chaotic when I don't. But I am not God. Only a bubble in His Ocean. My current question is: Am I responsible for my existence or is God/Creator? Maybe it doesn't matter, as long as God brings us home, somehow, eventually.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It could be my extreme need for order.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Order vs Chaos. Chaos is never good. Do you think the spiritual realm is not orderly? It IS orderly. More orderly than we comprehend. The scientists have a clue.
  TWISI
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No, I think it's extremely orderly.
  
  I just mean that when I think of MYSELF creating that order, my mind tends to reject it as "chaotic".
  
  I think that we are all pieces of God/the universe, but it's also weird to me and hard to accept. But everything that I experience and learn is tending in that direction. It's not a direction I'm comfortable with.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I've been told not to think too hard about it… its actually beyond human intellect. Probably why Einstein said God is a mystery and left it at that.
  So, visualize the color magenta and live lightly. I know what you mean. Sometimes I get jealous of Christians. They just accept Jesus and everything is pretty much taken care of. So, now, when I meditate I envision Jesus. Tryin' to cover all the bases.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It's hard to quit thinking about it:)
  
  I meditate and it brings on things even more. I go into trance, and have physical sensations that are almost impossible to ignore. I get up and walk around for a while, or try to distract myself. I can sometimes ignore it for hours, but then I eventually have to just lay down, and it starts again where it left off. Sometimes I only last a few minutes before the discomfort level is too strong to ignore.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  ...sounds very odd. Do you focus on third eye? put your gaze just between the eyebrows and raise your eyes upward gently. Sense light and love. Focus on Love and loving God. Only do it for as long as is comfortable. Say to yourself "I am well!" visualize light, feel love. Don't force it.
  I place a rock in my up turned hands. A largish rock form the yard. it is very grounding. When it gets warm or too heavy, I stop. I told my neighbor about the calming effects of holding a rock. I let her try it. She didn't get it. It helps me. I had a bad fall in March and hit my head really hard on the asphalt. All this has really helped me.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, it's odd. Some of the feelings are like electric shocks, sort of. Some feel like thin strings of energy going through different places in my body. Other feelings feel like a kind of pressure in my hands. It makes me feel like touching different chakras, especially my heart and forehead ones. And it just "feels" like I need to set my fingers into different positions, like yoga positions. When I get the position right, I feel a corresponding shock, usually in one of my chakras, but not always. At the same time, a kind of image or shape forms in my mind's eye. Like the work is building a construct in my mind.
  
  I know it sounds crazy, and it may well be that that's all it is. But I don't think so, because often I get specific thoughts that I didn't and couldn't have known before, that turn out to be based in fact.
  
  (PS, don't worry, I AM on meds, and well taken care of:)
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  really? and you don't think the meds are having a (positive?) influence? I wonder if one can get beyond the effects of meds while psychecising!!? I would say yes!
  
  We are lucky... the atheists are all over at End Time Prophecy's house.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  OH man! I just lost an entire post because I had to sign in again! I so don't want to rewrite it!
  
  Short short version: I think the meds only slow things down a bit, but don't really hamper anything.
  
  I wanted to show you this:
  
  http://www.thegreatdesign.com/archive/Chapter1/103.htm
  
  I had this number in my head for a week or so for no apparent reason, 3168, and then found this website when I was surfing. It comes in pieces like a puzzle, or sometimes like a general overview of things. But this particular number had no meaning for me, until it fit into things I already knew about Egypt, sacred geometry etc. Just wanted to show you kind of how it works for me.
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  Slarty O'Brianposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  As someone who mastered many meditation techniques I can tell it is self hypnosis.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  It's nothing like self hypnosis, which I have done. I know the difference. I know what it is now anyway, so I am no longer concerned about it.
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  Jeramiposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No, I think it's extremely orderly.
  
  I remember having a similar thought, but a little different ...OH maybe 50 years ago.
  I didn't speculate that (Maybe) humanity, as a whole, has a portion of creative abilities equal to God, But our half of this power is divided equally among every person on earth weather we are aware of this or not. And that this division of creative abilities is what brings about chaos. Everything that comes out of our mouth has either constructive or destructive affects even when we are unaware.
  And sometimes these words seem to keep working forever and ever.
  
  I also wondered if we were but small pieces of the whole....... And then I discovered girls and my thinking went in a new direction.
  Strange how this thread brought back a lot of issues , unrelated ones as well.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I think division brings about chaos, but in a slightly different way. I'm not sure how to describe it though. It's like two energies that are supposed to be together, but they are opposed. Then it's like they realize they are supposed to cooperate, and harmony can then be restored.
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  Jeramiposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I wondered off again ... ?
  i do like the way you think. I sometimes think I'm thinking about stuff I don't even know I'm thinking; and then I see you and a few others saying what I should have said if I had had the words.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  These things are so difficult to describe!
  
  I have a lot of trouble putting things into words. It's like I have to take things slowly, in pieces. I can't seem to describe things in a direct way.
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  Jeramiposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Sometimes Its kinda like .... I can see the whole picture and in my head I can see how all of the details fit together ... Kinda like a spider web. I can see it clearly ("Think I can?") but it is impossible to describe how every one of those intersections are required for the whole thing to make sense.
  
  Anyway its almost 1;00 AM and I'm off to bed. good night.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I know EXACTLY what you mean, you said it perfectly.
  
  Good night, I'll talk to you later:)
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  "One thing I know… Its not over for us yet…" I just heard this on T.V. a couple of old banditos talking to one another…Good Bad and the Ugly. LO L.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Wow. I printed it up . goin' off to read it. Thank you, janesix!
  
  And thanks, Castlepaloma. Nice discussion post.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Cool. I thought you might also be interested because how it relates to music as well.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I know!
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  Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Kathryn L Hill posted
  I actually think that I created myself.
  .... I borrowed all this energy from. Something like that.
  
  Don't worry I'm energy being, not an atheist yet without the God complex
  
  Why do you need to borrow energy from JC,? when your totally surrounded by energy all the time. JC is not under your bed all the time
  
  In the New Testament, we learn through the example of Jesus Christ that believers are called to a life of obedience. When your over obedience is to NT and OT how can you be really free toward the other 99% unknowns?
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  Slarty O'Brianposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Been there. It 's all in the head.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  yep.
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  Slarty O'Brianposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  But not outside it.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  There is nothing but energy, but not outside one's own mind?
  What are you trying to tell us?
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  That there is nothing outside of the mind? Then what am I seeing before me?
  What am I intuiting when I can read people's (and animals) minds? (occasionally by accident or luck)
  When I can(sometimes) intuit the love of God?
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Most people's intuition capabilities are almost completely closed off. Their scope of awareness is much more limited. They live almost completely from the left side of their brain. They will open their minds eventually. But probably not in this lifetime.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I would say most people would testify to extra sensory experiences. Most people have a proximity sense at very least. Others testify to premonitions, angelic intervention, words heard from God, visions from God.
  
  (Sense of Proximity:
  "IN NATURE for March 11 there is an interesting account by Dr. McKendrick of some investigations by Kunz, of Mülhausen, and Prof. Griesbach, on the senses of the blind. Among other points that he refers to and discusses is the question of the ability of the blind to avoid obstacles and find their way about. This calls to my mind some observations and experiments which I made upon myself some eleven years ago with reference to my ability to find my way about with my eyes shut or in the dark.")
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting.
  
  I haven't noticed that, but then again I have no friends and I'm not a people person.
  
  If true, this could be a good sign people are waking up.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, you need to get out more! How do you think mankind has survived all these eons?
  As a teen, I often 'knew' when the people I was babysitting for were about to pull in the driveway. I would always rush the kids to bed and clean up the place just in the nick of time! (And be sitting properly on the couch reading a magazine when they walked in the door.)
  
  Did you also know we are at the lower end of higher ages? It will be upward as far as consciousness from here on out. I think that is pretty exciting. It is also pretty exasperating. Like getting stuck in the line of a gabby checker at the grocery store...
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it's the Kali Yuga. When consciousness is at it's lowest. But there are many who say the beginning of aquarius is the time of renewed growth. And I'm not talking about the silly song:) It's astrotheologically sound.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  well, I have envisioned that technology will be the main challenge. I think things will be star-trekkish. I really believe God will be watching this show for a long time. We (they) will be traveling in space and operating advanced computer based technologies and there might be flying cars, and super modern conveniences like robots etc. You think He will cut this drama short? NO way! However, WE (they) will always be an the verge of blowing ourselves (themselves) up as we did in the time of Atlantis.
  Do you believe the story of Atlantis? I have heard all the technologies we have (that emerged in only the last 100 or so years) were brought forth from that time…Tesla, Edison, Einstein, Wright Brothers, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, etc. etc.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I see a different path, but I personally wouldn't mind living in a Star Trek type of world. In fact, that seems pretty ideal. No real money problems, medical, psychological. Fun and excitement. Intellectual challenge.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  So…what DO you see… as far as "a different path?"
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  A kundalini/awakening experience for the species as a whole.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  They're gonna need it to be able to deal with the continuing advancements in technology. It will be good and bad, as far as I can imagine.
  Also, there will be the really well-off and the really not well-off. Probably similar to the situation in Hunger Games. It happening fast.
  It is best to live off the grid like you seem to be. It is best to be successful, but to seem not to be...if you know what I mean.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I don't live off the grid, but I live out in the middle of nowhere, and use my boyfriend's computer.
  
  If worse comes to worse, I really don't know what I'd do, except hope for the best. I used to think about becoming a survivalist, but it is unworkable for me.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No, I don't think we have to figure out how to live off the grid at this point. Probably not in this life time. Unless the asteroid hits. Exciting.
  'm still pondering that info about frequencies in music. That is a pretty weird article. I don't know how you came up with that number and then that info. Syncronisity of some type.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I pretty much live in synchronicity now. Half the time I barely notice it and pretty much ignore it unless it is really insistant or something new.
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  janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  "Do you believe the story of Atlantis? I have heard all the technologies we have (that emerged in only the last 100 or so years) were brought forth from that time…Tesla, Edison, Einstein, Wright Brothers, Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, etc. etc."
  
  I've never believed in Atlantis, but I did study it seriously at one point. To me, it is more of a lesson in sacred geometry(along with other things, like how that effects society, but I will skip that for now)
  
  I was of the mind at one point that we must have come from an original Atlantis type society though, which spread out and left technology.
  
  But now, I think more along the lines that like in Egypt and other civilizations, there were brief but intense surges of higher consciousness. I also think this is how most religions start. It's all based on the same ideas.
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  Slarty O'Brianposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't say there was nothing outside the mind. I said that the spirit world is in your mind, not outside it.
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lone77starposted 10 years ago
No, CP, there's much more than energy.

You can have space or even time without energy, though we usually have a package deal of Space-Time, Energy-Mass.

You can also have spirit which is devoid of energy, space and time.

It seems to me, now, that spirit has descended into ego, and ego is a physical pseudo-self, separate from the whole.

When you talk of religion creating separation, you're really talking of ego corrupting religion. We are so used to the corrupted version, that we've forgotten what true religion looks like. True religion is all about love, spirit and leaving energy behind.

Ego is physical -- an action-reaction self that we frequently observe as selfishness and karma. We never see ego love, but it will hunger for lust. Ego is never humble, but it will sometimes commit suicide just to show the universe who is right. Ego will never be perfectly confident (faith), but will often maintain arrogance in the fear that someone might discover what they're really like (as with any bully). Ego never takes responsibility, but will love to offer blame.

There are many faces to ego, but once you learn them, you can recognize ego by the "fruit" of its labor.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  yeah, is ego just a bad habit? Like smoking?
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  Castlepalomaposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Do Christians imagine their supernatural alter ego of being Christ like?. Will that increase their lottery ticket chances of going to heaven?
  
  The Ego I'm thinking about is simple a hunger to know and spiritual side of thing is the unknowns or unknown , not so much about the astral being many religion claim to know.
  When referring to energy being or alleged life forms sharing some aspects of their appearance or abilities attributed to the idea that they are composed of pure energy and not made of matter.
  All things in moderation and all we have in life is what we give away. Would prefer to be a worldly lovable guy who treats everyone like gods or individual who can think for themselves.
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