HP QAP/Algorithm Tweaked Again?

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   jansharesposted 8 years ago

   Has the HP algo changed within the last day or so? My hubscores are dropping all of a sudden, especially the lowest scoring hubs. Or could this be due to a sharp decrease in traffic? Maybe both? I just have a feeling after reading Paul Edmondson's hub that something drastic is happening to address the Google crisis. Anyone else notice?

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Mine seem to have dropped a bit, also, but nothing drastic.  I think at this point the team is trying everything to raise the level of our work.  Unfortunately, many who follow the rules and write well are getting caught up in the numbers.  My best hub that has the most views dropped from 100 at one point to now down in the high 80s.  Still getting views, though..so who knows?

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         jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         One of mine that used to hit 100 and get 75-100 views a day has never been the same since January, in hubscore or views. As you say, we will have to get through this knowing that changes are meant to improve the site overall and weed out the rest.

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      Dr Billy Kiddposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      A few of mine dropped by a few views each,

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         sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         No things seem pretty normal today.

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      paradigm searchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, my hub scores have been drifting down as well. As for Google slamming our entire site, for me resignation has set in. It's also killed all desire to continue work on my newest hub; hopefully I'll snap out of that. And then we got the soon-to-be summer traffic pattern showing up.

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      Faith Reaperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Jan, well, my views are really good. I guess, I am still a bit confused as I thought now our individual hub scores are no longer based on views but quality. Google seems to love them but HP is not saying same quality as Google, so hub scores are dropping way down despite tons of views. Hubs that have always been in the 90s now have scores in the 70s and 60s! So something must get back on track with HP, unless I have read the HP weekly emails incorrectly and their new quality standards not having anything to do with views?

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         jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I'm confused about that, too Faith. I see correlations between views, hubscores, hubberscores, traffic. It's like clock work, all seeming to go up and down simultaneously.

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   Sue Adamsposted 8 years ago

   Blue arrows all over the place. And worse, the earnings figure has been stuck for days.

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      jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Horrible earnings yesterday, a low point.

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   Jodahposted 8 years ago

   Jan, I don't know what's happening, my average hub score is staying the same but I only have two or three hubs in the 90s now, where I usually have around six or seven. My views are down a lot and earnings are stagnant.

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      jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't seen a hub in the 90s in several months after having between 20 and 25 hubs consistently in the mid to high 90s for a year or so.

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         Jodahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Just checked again, only one left in 90s and only just at 91...lots in 60s.

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            Lady Loreleiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yep, dropping dropping dropping and waiting for the scores to simply fall off a cliff. Updating and improving them seems to only get a lower ranking than previously. I am beginning to think that I am on a "Don't you dare rank any hub on that account above an 80" list. Very demotivating. If earnings are somehow correlated to the ranking than this is not a fair ranking system.

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   janderson99posted 8 years ago

   Is HP doing a Google Doodle - reducing scores by 20% so HP hub and hubber scores stay correlated with traffic.
   Core algo change a la HP. Strange timing. Probably a bug.
   I remember a long time ago, in a land far away, you used to be able to install a program on a Mac that made a bug image crawl across the screen at random intervals. Lots of bugs at HP!

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      jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Really? They really need to spray.

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   paradigm searchposted 8 years ago

   For what it's worth, the last few hubs I've edited got a 2-5 point attaboy increase.
   
   As for how long those increases last...

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      jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Me too. It was working so well. But some of them have gone back down.

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   jansharesposted 8 years ago

   2 days ago 8 or 9  of my hubs were in the 60s. Today 16. There is a tweaking going on.

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      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What kind of tweaking could it possibly be?

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         jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I'm speculating but I sense that the rating criteria for hubs has been raised, i.e., stricter, tightening up of what deems a high hubscore. I could be totally wrong but when several of my hubs do the same thing simultaneously, my witchy-poo senses tell me something has changed.

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            colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            After reading through this thread and some other threads this morning I'm thinking your senses are keen. 
            
            I have been spending my time over the weekend on Zazzle and Wanelo.  BTW, things get indexed by Google very fast when I post something on Wanelo.

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      paradigm searchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, they're proliferating all over the place. Looking for my flyswatter.

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         brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Yesterday all my hubs were in the 90s 80s and 70s, but today they are all in the 70s and 60s. I was going to post but glad someone else did. What kind of sense does that make? I guess it is to get us to improve our scores. However, I have already updated every one of my hubs and got my scores up. The problem is thin content from what I read. That is what needs to be dealt with, in my opinion. The article I read says they downgraded the entire site due to thin content. regardless of all other improvements and subdomains  It is so sad.

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            jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks, brakel2. I do remember reading that and it now makes sense that my lower scoring hubs that went down even more have "thin content," i.e., poetry hubs.

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               brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I don't think your poetry hubs would be thin content. Poetry is beautiful, especially yours. They were talking about articles that information was not original but already on Internet: nothing fresh.

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                  jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh. Thanks for your vote of confidence. I assumed "thin" also included short hubs that aren't informative or how-to. I thought that since the majority of searchers don't read poetry, it gets lumped into less desirable content for Google, i.e., thin.

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                     brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I found some info on thin content which is helpful to me.
                     
                     https://support.google.com/webmasters/a … 4719?hl=en

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                        jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Thank you, brakel, that was very helpful. So I'm not "thin" in content. That's good to know.

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   janderson99posted 8 years ago

   20 percent reduction in traffic across the board by Google - unrelated to quality - makes no sense
   10 percent downgrading of hub scores across the board by HP - unrelated to quality - makes no sense
   
   What a fabulous way to slap morale down further!

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      jansharesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for that info, confirmation appreciated.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 8 years ago

   

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      brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Love it. We need this kind of stuff.

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         sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Strange I am not seeing this at all.  My traffic has increased all week and according to google stats tonight is at its highest for weeks..  I edited at least ten hubs yesterday and the only negative has been that my profile score went gone down one point.

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            janderson99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Has your average hub score declined? Mine went down over the last few days.

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               sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               No, it has remained pretty constant and at its highest it has ever been.   I have been using Grammarly to edit all my hubs and hope to get through all of them by the end of this week.

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                  brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you have Editor's Choice Hubs? A lot of them?

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                     sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, I have seventeen.

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            brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Google must love you, Sally. Congrats.

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               sallybeaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               brake12
               I hope he will love all of us soon:)

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                  brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  You are so sweet, kind, and humble. I hope we all get increased traffic as soon as possible. In reality. we are fortunate.

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   jansharesposted 8 years ago

   Update: Hubscores increasing on the ever-changing roller coaster. Maybe this is now the norm, albeit frustrating. I mentioned above that 16 hubs were suddenly in the 60s after only having 8. This morning it's back to 8. Good news? I don't know. It's Monday.
   
   sallybea, it is interesting that you don't see what most of us are experiencing. Could it be that you have a niche with excellent how-tos? Keep up the good work.

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      brakel2posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My scores back to normal: that is hub scores. Update June 7.

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