Do you believe in cospirazione theories such as US government made 911 bombing e

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   SilverRingveeposted 11 years ago

   Do you believe in cospirazione theories such as US government made 911 bombing etc. ?
   
   I would really like to know what others think about these things.

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   James-wolveposted 11 years ago

   9/11/2001 was an inside  job.There was no human-bodies, no airplane-debris of Boeing 757, and no luggage were found!also, no noise was either recorded or detected by any ordinary person!It was clearly a drone or a missile that hit the pentagon, and WTC7 came down by controlled demolition explosions from bottom-up, almost simultaneously!  Also, it's been scientifically proven that military-grade Thermite was used to melt the WTC pillars, which caused the buildings to collapse.
   1.The 757 airplane supposed to have crashed into the Pentagon basing made a WILD, WILD turn in Pentagon airspace (240 degree turn around the Pentagon before crashing) going to the complete other side of the Pentagon.  Thus it would have completely been visible.  Also more importantly if the plane going to the Pentagon had simply crashed straight on (instead of making a wild turn) it would have slammed into the HIGHEST security level of the Pentagon with Rumsfeld, and his cronies.  But the "plane" is alleged to have made a CRAZY turn and crashed into an almost empty area that was under "construction" and had very few people.
   2.Pentagon was "attacked" 50 min. after the WTC was allegedly "attacked".  How did a slow moving 757 plane fly around and then make a 240 degree turn in PENTAGON airspace, withouth being tracked and shot at!  The Pentagon would be expected to have the highest security of almost any world building.
   You can check these videos:
   http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it
   
   http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm
   
   http://www.loosechange911.com/
   
   http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11
   
   http://ae911truth.org/

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      zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Finally someone who thinks for themselves...... YES...so refreshing. Below is my fav documentary that PROVES 9/11 was a lie
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

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   JThomp42posted 11 years ago

   I think the idea of the United States conspiring to kill it's own people is preposterous. There is more than sufficient evidence that Bin-Laden and Al Qaeda were totally responsible for the horrific acts of 9/11. Footage of the planes hitting the towers that had been hijacked by Al Qaeda terrorists, recordings of phone calls explaining what the terrorists looked like, records of them taking flying lessons in the United States, and so much more evidence that this was Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda only.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      FBI does not list the 9/11 attacks as one of the crimes for which he is wanted. It does list bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi as terrorist acts for which he is wanted. But it makes no mention of 9/11.Check  the report of FBI on google

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The CIA was responsible for tracking him down, not the FBI. In which they did. He ultimately didn't get what he deserved, the Seals made it too easy for him by taking him out of this world quickly. I hope the point the United States made was taken!

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You should ask Rex Tomb,the FBI’s chief of investigative  who said publicity in 2006: “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Again it was not the FBI'S responsibility. Even if they knew something they weren't going to tell the public. He's dead. Enuff said.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The FBI gathers evidences. Once evidence is gathered, it s turned ovr to th Department of Justice.Th Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They had no plans of trying Bin Laden. Do you live in the United States?

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Two weeks after 9/11,Colin Powel said on Meet the Pres tht he expcted in the near futur to put out  document tht wud describ quit clearly th evidenc tht thy had linkin Ben t this attak but later Powell reversed himself becos lack of solid information

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Two weeks after? Of course they weren't sure of anything at this time. People kill me that they think the government is going to tell everything that is going on behind the scene. There are A LOT of things that must b kept secret. Run we got ya. No.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      ok you said they werent sure,what made  them accusing directly  Laden after the attack,why cudnt they wait till they gather evidences.the same scenario happenend in the Oklahoma bombing.Quickly they accused Muslims and they offered a list of them

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       zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       PLEASE do your homework. We have had plans to kill civilians to support military involvement in Cuba....NOTHING NEW
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80xSxzNzb2w

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   LandmarkWealthposted 11 years ago

   It's amazing that people still ask this.  There is ZERO real evidence of this.  First of all the Gov't is completely incompetent.  They can't deliver a bottles of water after a hurricane, let alone pull this off. The only thing the gov't was liable for was not taking the treat of terrorist serious enough and be prepared for how determined radical islam is.  I remember a college professor of mine who had retired from the state dept warning me about this in the early 90's and I didn't buy it either. 
   
   Nevertheless, the NIST report was the official Gov't structural report on the buildings and how they collapsed, which analyzed every detail from the building foundation to the truss systems etc.  Then came all of these other outlandish accusations like iron residue that is supposed to be unexplained. Expect iron is found in paint.  I think they used some of that at the WTC.  Then there was the explosion sounds heard from the thermite used to detonate the building.  Ofocurse thermite doesn't explode.  No matter how many theories got debunked they always come back up with a new one.  Popular Mechanics helped organize numerous engineers and scientists to address all these conspiracies.  None of them held any degree of validity. Numerous other findings were published in peer reviewed papers in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.  Most of them were directly addressed by the scientific community here. 
   
   http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
   
   Unfortunately this stuff never ends.  Many still accuse FDR of knowing about Pearl Harbor becuase of one of a million transmitions that were intercepted and not acted upon.  I happen to think he was a lousy President, but he did not know about Pearl Harbor either.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They lied about Iraq and Afghanistan and just about everything else. Why are we willing to accept their version of 9/11 that made it all possible?

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There is no proof of lies of anything. 500 hundred tons of enriched uranium was removed from iraq.  150 tons was weapons grade.  That alone was enough for these maniacs to do a lot of damage. The only problem with Iraq and Afghan is the strategy.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James, You need to do your homework instead of listening to propaganda.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The uranium was unrefined, and declared. The UN had access to it for inspections. Granted, Iraq under Saddam sitting on yellowcake is not a preferred situation, but it's not as dangerous as you make it out to be.There was no  stockpiles of WMD.

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Uranium in the hands of men like Sadam is quite dangerous.  Additionally every intelligence agency on the planet had the same info and universally aggreed on the probability.  Being wrong about the extent of a problem does not make it a lie.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      When the card of Saddam burnt and the mask fallen.USA  was in stark need of a new figure in the region.Bush sent Joe Wilson to got find it and he found jack .

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James, long before the invasion British, French, Israeli, german, and even russian intel agencies all had the same info. You give the Gov't to much credit, there not that sophisticated. If they were we wouldn't have found out about benghazi recently.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think it s better for us  to confine to the subject and not to drift away to other things:) sorry to say that.I mean no offence.

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The point is the goverment is hardly sopisticated. There is no real evidence to support a 911 inside job cover up other than those who failed to prevent it due to their incompetence. But incompetence does not imply intent.

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       James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry,what do you mean by incompetence in this context?

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       LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It means they can't keep Benghazi a secret which is a much smaller scale. There is no way they could have kept credible evidence quiet.  Especially not with a media that hated Bush. The Gov't is not good at anything other than waste.

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       James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I think the context is 911 , not Benghazi .I said before we should confine ourselves to the subject.Sorry once again.

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       LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Your missing the point.  If 911 could be so easily covered up, Then benghazi, watergate, and monica lewinsky would have never made the papers. There not smart enough or sophisticated to cover up anything of that magnitude effectively.

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       zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Watch this...then let me know what you think
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

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       LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Seen it already. That's old news and its been debunked by teams of experts in actual pier reviewed work point by point.

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   brblogposted 11 years ago

   No,
   
   I generally dismiss the conspiracy theorists and over time (if not immediately) they are 99.9% completely debunked by the available evidence. Right now there is a bunch of chatter about the government stockpiling weapons and building “gulags” apparently because they are going to round us all up for whatever reason? When, in time, this does not come to pass, it will be just another conspiracy theory on the trash heap at the conspiracy landfill.
   
   But, I will say, they can be fun to read about sometimes – good fiction is always entertaining . . .

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      In Kennedy s presidential,Some highly responsible people  wanted to attack USA  by Cuban plane so as to topple over Castro.But Kennedy was patriot and good man.He thwarted the plan.Read history.

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      zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Please watch this....evidence...then you tell me what you think
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4
      
      and YES....James below is correct !!!

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_c1tPMiG0

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   Rosana Modugnoposted 11 years ago

   I was there unfortunately and saw the planes hit the towers.  I also saw people jumping to their deaths and disintegrate below, and watched the towers fall on top of them.  I will never forget the smell or the looks on people's faces, the desperation of calling loved ones, friends on the cells phone and getting their voice mail instead.  I will also never forget that last phone call I received of my friend desperately trying to get down the stairs.  He didn't make it.  I don't like talking about it but I feel I should.  It is as vivid now as it was then. 
   
   I find it offensive that anyone would think we had anything to do with this, attacking our own people like animals in the financial center of our world, knowing it would cause disruption and chaos.  It is disgusting to imagine it and it truly hurts me.
   
   I don't understand why it is so difficult for people to believe that there are people out there in other countries who hate us and want us to die.  We have enemies. That is a fact we will all have to deal with and until it hits your own home town or kills one of your children, then maybe it will change your mind about the real terror out there and how this country has become so damned passive where we need to be aggressive, will be the downfall of America, just as it was in Rome. 
   
   My apologies if I offended anyone.  But this is from my own personal experience and I share it on this forum because it is a topic that changed me in a profound way.

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      brblogposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Rosana . . .

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely THANK YOU!! No apologies needed to anyone.

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      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well said, Rosana, and obviously from the heart. Hat off to you!

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well,you saw the plane hit the Tower but did u see the pilot or those who stole the plane as they claimed ?and did you see WTC Buildin 7’s collaps ?y Commission avoids the explanation how  WTC 7 collaps in its report?Im sry too if i offended any1  to

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James a good friend of mine is a relative of one of the pilots of one of the hijacked planes. He has been gone for over a decade.  There not secretly hiding him. They miss him dearly.  Let these people rest.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      AMEN Landmark!!

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      zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What a horrible thing to experience first hand. However....have you not heard of "false flag operations" ? These are events used to gain public support for war. We used a false flag to start Vietnam, and also to overthrow Govt of Chilli.

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      LandmarkWealthposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There were too many civilian investigators involved.  Many of which I know from NYFD.  There is no evidence to support these conspiracy theories.

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   Attikosposted 11 years ago

   Conspiracies go on around us all the time. When you and Friend A have lunch without telling Friend B about it because you don't want him tagging along, you're part of one.
   
   A conspiracy is no good unless it's kept secret, though, and in government that just doesn't happen. There are too many people involved in everything, and every one of them has his own agenda. Someone's going to talk. Nobody with any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, guesswork and paranoid fantasy, has said anything at all to indicate the attacks on September 11, 2001, were anything but publicity seeking strikes by radical Islamists crazed with hatred, ideology and booze.
   
   That the FBI has no evidence linking Osama bin Laden directly to the incident is irrelevant. He alone was never the sole, totalitarian planner and executive officer of the violent Islamist movement. He has been used as a fetish, a symbol of casus belli, but that doesn't mean we should buy into the demonization to the extent we assume that if he wasn't directing the operation, some hidden conspirator on the other side was. For 9-11 to be exactly what the United States said it was does not require, or even imply, his personal involvement. Large social movements like aggressive Islamism don't work like that.

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      James-wolveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well, the 9/11 Commission report gave th impresion that it was in possesion of solid evidence of bin Laden’sguilt becoz KSM was taking orders frm Laden but at the end report  asks How could we tell if someone such as KSM was tellin us the truth

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      zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      a "conspiracy" is three peope working together PERIOD !!! They happen all the time. Enron, Iraq, Afghanistan, The overthrow of Iran in the 1950s, Vietnam, etc
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX7Z8VstN4

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   Larry Wallposted 11 years ago

   I have never believed that 9-11 was a conspiracy. I really do not think the Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy's assassinations were the result of any conspiracy.
   
   If you look hard enough you can find something to doubt, and that doubt turns into a conspiracy. I am surprise that someone, and maybe someone has, think that Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy was some conspiracy.
   
   I worked for the oil and gas industry and there were always and will always be claims that the oil companies conspire on prices, and it has been proven over and over they do not. Why conspire, when you post the price in four-foot high numbers on the side of the road for everyone to see?
   
   I saw the plane hit the second tower on television. I had just walked into the office a few moments after the first tower was hit and everyone thought it was an accident. The second plane caused an instant change the disbelief into fear that we were possibly under attack, which we were.
   
   The only conspiracy we need to worry about are those who try to turn every tragic event into a conspiracy.

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      zduckmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      PLEASE be open minded enough to watch this
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80xSxzNzb2w

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