Seems to me black holes are necessary to support the big bang and expanding universe, which is necessary to support
theory of evolution, necessary to support that the universe is progressive, which means only what we have achieved with all our progress, is of any consequence in the whole of it all. And the devil take the hind-most.
This sounds like an interesting discussion, so, if you don't mind, I am going to jump right in and have my say. Earlier in the discussion, Prophecy Teacher mentioned that he cannot envision, if I recall correctly, something coming from nothing. However, he added that he can envision something coming from something. On that note, I would argue that as many mystic and sages of old tell us that "God is the universe and the universe is God". Science teaches us that energy becomes matter and matter becomes energy. Being both a lover of mystical wisdom and a lover of scientific knowledge, I would tend to argue that the belief in God and the belief in evolution do not necessarily have to be in conflict with each other. You can believe in God and Evolution at the same time. As I see it, there can be no evolution without God. The two are co-joined. Evolution, of course, from my vanish point, is the subset of the major "set", God. The question that many of you are probably asking is this: How do you know that your first principle of God being synonymous with the universe is true? Answer: I don't. I tend to take the mystics and other seers having similar experience throughout the ages and throughout the world at their word. Or, as Jesus Christ put it: "Lest you be born again, you cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven". Translation: Until you have attained Buddahood or been transfigured or have experienced Cosmic Consciousness, you CANNOT and WILL NOT ever know these things. My point is that I cannot prove my first principle. On the contrary, I have to rely on the reports of others.
hubby7
We seem to be veering away from the purpose of this thread, which was to gather together great examples of anti-evolutionists' more bizarre lines of argument, stripping away the more ordinary and nowhere near as amusing actual arguments.
If you want to have a debate about evolution, start a new thread or dig up one of the old ones.
This is not a debate thread; this is an awards thread.
Anyone can make a nomination, but you must nominate someone ELSE; you can't nominate yourself.
When you nominate, suggest a score. Others are welcome to debate and dispute the suggested score. Scoring is out of 10, with a 10 representing the best possible example of an anti-evolutionist presenting an argument that actually supports evolution as though it disproves it instead.
Blatant ignorance of the mechanics of Darwinian evolution, geology and the scientific method are usually prerequisites for a good score.
Simply asserting things written in the Bible as though being in the Bible makes them ipso facto "facts" that are "true" is only worth a 1 or a 2, and generally doesn't make the grade for nominations. We are looking for 5 and above - things that make your jaw drop.
And yes, it's supposed to be fun. Don't start arguing the pros and cons of evolution in this thread. This is the spectators gallery, where we watch and enjoy, and make comment on the sport ...
Jenny
OOOOhhh, I got one:
If you give a million monkeys typewriters and a million years to type, would one be able to type Shakespeare's Hamlet?
No.
But their combined works could probably produce the post replies contained in this hub between silly fundies and self sure atheists.
Are you unable to read? You cannot nominate your own particular brand of garbage. Some one else has to nominate it on your behalf.
And whatever point you were trying to make got lost in your high opinion of yourself............
The only high opinion I have of myself is due to my ability to annoy you.
I've gota nother wun:
If we evolved from monkies, how come there's still people like you running around?
Ah - personal insults. Definitely a real christian.
Demonstrating an ignorance of evolution is not enough. Although you are doing a sterling job of showing your lack of education, you cannot nominate yourself for this thread. Read the first post.
They're jokes. What would this world be without humor?
Besides, real "Christians" believe you and I are going to hell so don't call me one.
OOOOOOOOoooooohhhhhhhh, I nominate this one:
How many evolutionists does it take to buy airline tickets?
A loaded question. They might as well just stand in front of a junk yard, wait for a couple thousand tornados to ramble through it and then they'd have their airline ready for flight. But that's a best case senario. They'd probably end up with some unsafe value jet DC-9 in crappy condition.
I had to resurrect this thread for a sterling entry from one of our muslimist friends. Not sure it quite fits the qualifications, but it is so funny it is worth including.
9.5/10
Yes, it's amusing, but you're right - to fit the qualification, the quote needs to display ignorance of the theory of evolution. Bonus points for providing evidence for evolution as though it is evidence against.
I think it should stay, though, because it's a pearler.
Human rights ... lol ...
Jenny
I am confused at how many anti-evolutionists have no idea what evolution actually means... There are no fish "changing" into lizards, and no one is saying that they are or ever could...
Did none of you ever take basic biology?
Genetic mutations happen in pretty much every generation of every species, and when one mutation works better than the other, the better one gets the chance to breed. That is evolution. Do you seriously have an issue with THAT?? It's irrefutable and says absolutely nothing about (for OR against) religion...
I think that the anti-evolutionists are fighting against something else entirely.
Nobody was nominated for a long time...
Let me try this one http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/21027?page=7#post351462
Does not earn more than 5-6, but i may be wrong of course
Do you mean the one about "cats have kittens, and dogs have puppies" (and so, of course, all species are completely and utterly unrelated)? I'd give that one a 7.5.
LOL Yeah, and the start of the post demonstrating an utter ignorance of what the word theory means.
God said let it be so
bang there it is
gods power moved upon the waters.
life abounded and it evolved.
God created man and woman
DNA locked up tight.
here we are.
Why does it have to be either or?
I can't believe you are spamming Farscape...does that really sell?
OMFG! 10!!! I don't know if anyone can top this. That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard with regards to evolution.
Nice nomination.
Bonus points for treating evolution and racism as equivalent ...
Jenny
Impressive. I thought we had a winner before, but that is a masterpiece.
Not as spectacular as some previous efforts, but a solid 6/10 I'd say, based on equating accepting a hypothesis like the Theory of Evolution with religious worship, and then the whole fascinating bastardisation of stem cell research, revealing an almost total ignorance of biology.
Jenny
Hi Jenny. Where have you been. Sorry not here to read this thread just to greet you. But will read it in time.
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