Has Einstein's constant now been disproved by entanglement?

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   Oztinatoposted 7 years ago

   Has Einstein's constant now been disproved by entanglement?
   
   The instantaneous transmission of information has now been proven by entanglement experiments. Does this mean the so called constant (speed of light) has been shown to be incorrect? Does entangled information exceed the speed of light? Is this a kind of time travel or a "time warp, again?"
   
   

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years ago

   The problem with scientists is that they always seem to give us their preliminary results without thinking through the whole process. They have done this entanglement of photon but their results are skimpy, and actually meaningless as far as the C is concerned.
   
   We get these scientific results all the time, especially in the health arena. Until they can nail down a theory like E=MCC, then they should just keep trying. This entanglement theory is not new, and its benefit is mostly in its ability to encrypt information and protect it from hacking.
   
   They also have those experiments where one photon is sent but two are received. Is light a wave or a particle? Questions like this need to be answered before we extrapolate on primitive tests.

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      Oztinatoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It's now gone way beyond that and several experiments have confirmed what Einstein called spooky forces.
      In other words entanglement is now mainstream science.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato
      I gave you the results of the current findings, and they are skimpy at best. The BBT is also mainstream but it is still only a theory. BTW, Where is the Photon in the M of E=MCC? They have cloned a photon to another photon. We are not photon

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   PhoenixVposted 7 years ago

   Perhaps it's our perspective Mr. Oztinato.  A ruler is 12 inches from end to end.  In my mind I can visualize a ruler. What is the distance of "that" concept but nil. Perhaps reality at certain levels is the same.

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      Oztinatoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe if we look at the Holographic Universe concept or if we smoke a Lotta Lotta weed

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      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I dont smoke Mr. Ozainato. Let me explain it a different way. Humans have a propensity or proclivity to desire that reality conform to their range of perception.  Further...

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   tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

   The experiments need to be replicated and more thoroughly studied before we can absolutely say so.

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   Oztinatoposted 7 years ago

   Here's the news about replicating the experiment.
   
   http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-2 … gh/7853860

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      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Fundamental reality, hypothetical O/1 dimensional : there may not be distance and all the time in the world to do it. Same as concepts.  The Q is resolved

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      Oztinatoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      So far science can't explain it. The person who does will probably win the Nobel Prize. Are you claiming you've solved it?

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      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Its pretty simple. 1. QE was never in doubt. 2. The impossible is not possible. 3. The assumption of distance is false. The finish line is 2 miles. The limit is 1 minute. You are 60 mph @ midway elapsed time 1 minute. How fast ya gotta go? Times up.

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   FitnezzJimposted 7 years ago

   The simple explanation is that photons CAN be two places at once.
   
   The more complex explanation is that entangled pairs of photons share certain measurable characteristics in such a way that changes in those characteristics are instantaneously shared without having to travel the space-time distance between them.
   
   Either way, it does not appear to violate the current existing rules regarding the speed of light with respect to space-time.

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      Oztinatoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Then it could be a time warp again?
      I can see that quantum particles behave differently but when they are placed apart in the external universe at large (say on earth the other on the moon) it does seem strange or spooky as Einstein said.

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      FitnezzJimposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Key to the understanding is that we live in more than the four dimensions.  Best recall is that we're in eleven.  And yeah, spooky is a good word for it.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Jim
      Isn't that just the concoction of scientists that are trying to use string theory. They mathematically created the other dimensions to that string theory could progress. There is no validation that I know of to verify these other dimnesions

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      Oztinatoposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Many phenomena are predicted first by math and then experiments are conducted to verify the theory.
      It's just that these days the maths is evolving rapidly in unexpected ways.

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