Manafort breaks plea deal and all bets are off!

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   Paul Manafort--already in deep doo doo--is in further jeopardy because of his repeated lies to Robert Mueller's investigators after he signed an agreement to cooperate with the probe. He seems to be betting all of his chips on a pardon from Trump by breaking the deal.
   
   
   The reasons for Mueller's move to end the deal and remand Manafort to the courts for full sentencing are forthcoming shortly in a court report on the matter. Will Trump Pardon Manafort? Or throw him under the bus? I'd wager on the latter....

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   Does anyone think Trump will pardon all these Non-Trump -Russian- collusionist's  , put Mueller on an unemployment line and give the dreamy left they're 791rst reason for impeachment ?

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Further news on Manafort in an article in The Guardian. Manafort visited Julian Assange 3 times before the HRC's emails were released by Wikileaks. Apparently this has something to do with his not being honest to Mueller's team and caused his plea deal to fall through. My, my, my...things are getting interesting, eh ED? 

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   Manafort worked for Trump's campaign for what ? Three months .
   Wow ...............lots of collusion there ................?

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      How long does it take to collude ED, since you're such an expert?

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   For some apparently longer than others , the Clintons ..........for instance ?  If Russia  was able to collude with Manafort in just three months , he breaks all of Hillary's records.

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Do you know how long Manafort had been in contact with the Russians before he became Trump's campaign manager?  Of course you don't, or you would not be posting such ignorant garbage.

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         lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Randy, even if you give him hard evidence, Ed will then come back to say, I do not care what he does as long as he does a good job in office.
         
         There is this flowchart that Ed has hanging over his computer that he follows. You've seen enough of his replies to know the order in which it goes

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            Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            So says a kid from India ?

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               lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Haha, you just proved me right. This is step one on the flowchart. Step two is: call people liberals and left if you can't argue with facts, then TDS, if TDS fails, try liberalism again and if that fails, say you don't care as long as a good job is being done or it is portrayed to be good. Repeat loop.

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               Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Did I miss something? What relevance does nationality have here?

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                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  ED has no answer as usual, Don.

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                  lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Don, there were quite a few threads where Ed an I had words exchanged. He never made any sense so I won't say we had a discussion. In all cases he kept saying facts say this and facts say that, but in no case added references. All he did was googled for 14 seconds to get those facts (his words, not mine).
                  
                  I then Googled and gave him facts that showed that he was not just wrong, but no where close to being right. He goes on to say that those are studies and research papers published by the left. I said, well then show me the links published by the right and I get no response to that other than me being a TDS.
                  
                  This thing about facts happened more times than I can count and not once could he give me any and I gave him links all the time.
                  
                  I seem to be the only non-American in these discussions, and since he can't debate with me or give me solid facts, the easiest way to neglect my facts is by calling out my nationality. To any American, he brings out the Obama administration and the fact that Obama had Muslim blood, or he just throws shit around about Democrats and liberalism. He can't do that with me. He's questioned and called out my nationality a few times so far, even went on a rant about being disrespectful to non-Americans (like we didn't know).

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            Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, he tries to vary the TDS accusations, but lately he has nothing left except that. I kinda feel sorry for him....   

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   So Randy , where does that prove Trump /Russia collusion ?........You can tie Manafort all you want to being in Russia doing whatever , time for some Trump -Russia collusion evidence or stop whining like a warped buzz saw blade.

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      So ED, do you see now how Manafort could already be compromised before he worked for Trump?  Or is it you simply don't want to know?

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   Don't feel bad for me , I'm having a ball toying with the three most uninformed forum trolls on the net.  You guys really should spend some time reading some news media instead of Mad Magazine political columns.

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      La Veeztaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You got that right Ed, although I don't think it's fair to disparage trolls with such a comparison. Dershowitz has been supporting Trump about this witch hunt and once again he points out there is no crime here. Look at how he makes a folly out of Stephanopoulos' spin at the end of the video! 
      
      https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018 … t-wont-re/

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         Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Oooooh, another non--person like ED gives their input no one cares about.

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            La Veeztaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            "no one cares" lol, except apparently only you! Here is some good advice for Randy who is obviously very unhappy.
            
            https://hubpages.com/religion-philosoph … py-in-life

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               Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Still don't care what a non-person on a writer's site has to say, and I'm very happy because the cretin in the WH is on his way out. Why would I be sad?

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Did you researched "the three most uninformed trolls on the net" or are you simply Trumping it for the 1275th time, ED? You didn't knw I was keeping count didja?

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   Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago

   It seems Manafort was the go-between, or least one of them, Russia and Wikileaks. Roger Stone and his cohort Corsi are also said to be involved in the collusion efforts to release HRC's emails. Looking very bad for Manafort as his only chance to escape prison for the rest of his life if for Trump to pardon him. Another Trump crony thrown under the bus if Trump stays true to form.

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      Ed Fisherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Is this now to be the newest call to  impeachment from your "leaders " Nancy , Barbara , Adam ,  Randy ummm, Impeachment # 764 now ?  Randy, like Manafort you too could be pardoned by Trump for all your past grievances .

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      JAKE Earthshineposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Randy: If Bozo Trump does indeed evade prison long enough to pardon Manafort it will presumably just be ANOTHER count of 'Obstruction of Justice and Abuse of Power' applied to the orange dude in the oval office and he knows it, but even that still might not deter him from doing it, Bozo proves every day on television and his pathetic little tweet machine that he's very sick in the head:

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   IslandBitesposted 5 years ago

   Manafort attorney relayed info about Mueller probe to Trump lawyers
   
   Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's attorney repeatedly spoke with the president's lawyers about discussions with federal investigators after Manafort agreed to cooperate with special counsel Robert Mueller.
   
   Rudy Giuliani, who represents Trump in the special counsel's investigation, confirmed the arrangement to the newspaper and argued that the conversations provided valuable insight.

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   Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

   Don W, Randy ,  whoever .......I don't have much faith or respect for  the opinions of forum dwellers who're native to other countries , especially  when it comes to nations with far bigger problems than internal US issues.
   
   Lobobrandon or anyone else should truly consider "cleaning up their own house first ."

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      Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You don't seem to have faith or respect for anyone not from this country, ED. Or anyone who goes against your idol who you model your life after. Sad!

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      lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Have I once commented on any of the internal issues? I only commented on issues that DIRECTLY affect me. But you are to dumb to realize the difference between the two. Not once have I made an opinion on any of the purely internal stuff. I asked questions never commented.
      
      About your gun laws, if you remember I asked why it's needed, you said why, I said I see your point, done. That was it.
      
      Trumps trade tarrifs are AFFECTING India in a big way. Most of the oil we import is from Iran, having sanctions on any company that deals with Iran, in this case, makes no sense. If you can work with Saudi because they get you 40,000 or 1,000,000 jobs (maybe your guy made up his mind by now), we can and the world can and should continue their relations with Iran when the economy of most of the country and BILLIONS (India, China and a lot of Europe) of jobs depend on it.
      
      So yes, I can call Trump a hypocrite. Just the other day a Spanish friend asked me what that word meant when I used it in a conversation. I said someone who changes opinions when it is he who does it, like Trump, she immediately understood. No kidding.
      
      The reason you do not respect others is because the others are too damn smart (TDS) for you to argue against. If they are smart Americans, all you do is call them hopeless Democrats and far left liberals. But you can't say that to me. So, to me, all you can say is I do not respect you. Because it would shame you to say I cannot debate with you because you've got facts to counter everything I say. But if I do not write anymore, you will have to take away one rectangle from your debate flowchart. There would be no more: Ask if American. It would be even sadder.
      
      There are people I don't fancy, I even respect Trump to some extent, but not you. Live to learn makes most of the same points as you, but he is respectable. He isn't a troll. So I don't care if you respect me lol. Just respect yourself, you cannot seem to do that. You can only respect yourself when you accept that you've got problems.
      
      The other day you tried to point out problems in India and I accepted them and your operating system crashed. You had no clue what to do and immediately went the TDS route. That was hilarious and every time I see you do silly stuff like that, I remember Randy's words about you being a fun guy.

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    Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

    Lobobrandon , You are good at taking lines out of context to make your points but not very convincing .  There are sanctions against Iran for all the right reasons ,Supporting regional terrorism , it's nuke policy , international terrorism etc. ,  one more bad move by India officials --even going against UN sanctions . 
    
    We can discuss internal US politics if you wish however shouldn't you clean up India's major problems  first ?  It's not hypocritical for you to call out the US for dropping the Paris Agreements with the major internal pollution issues that India has ? 
    
    You are not the only non-American here as I have debated many and all opinions are welcome however if your ego is too sensitive to stand the political criticism of "cleaning up your house first " before critiquing the US and it's policies  , perhaps you'd better stick to  writing hubs .
    As you have offered before , I return , Peace .

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       lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       Nah, no lines out of context on my part. Unlike you, I do not take lines out of context to try and convince people. I provide them with facts and external resources.
       
       For the same "right" reasons sanctions must be made against Saudi too. They support terror in Syria and among other nations in the middle east. Iran does not support any internationally recognised terror agency, but Saudi Arabia supports many internationally recognized terror organisations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-spo … udi_Arabia this is it for Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-spo … rism#Iran. What's with the nuke policy of Iran? They haven't done anything to go against the deal they struck with the West. So you can never use the fact that Iran sponsors terror as the reason for the sanctions, because if you do that then SA needs higher sanctions.
       
       No, the UN did not sanction the sanctions against Iran, China has Veto power, Russia has Veto power, they would never let that happen because China is the biggest importer of oil from Iran followed by India and then the EU. This is why the rest of the world is looking at ways to go around the US sanction. For now, most have reduced their imports. Out of context, but you respect the UN all of a sudden?
       
       India is cleaning up is stuff and it admits it has a problem. Unlike your president. Look at this kid from India, there's hope in this country, with people like Trump and you who don't understand simple differences it seems hopeless unless people like you are not in power. You were of the same opinion as Trump, because whatever he says is the holy grail to blind followers like you. You can read your statements here: https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/341 … gus-study-
       
       
       
       I have clearly said that India has problems and they are cleaning up. You are the one who has to have this opinion that America is the best country in the world in every possible way. Having China and India better than you in some aspects is derogatory and your ego cannot handle it. America was better in many aspects until the latest president stepped into office, but your ego cannot handle that and you must be better. After all, how can non-US people who do not deserve any respect be better than you in any way?
       
       I clearly say that we have problems back in India, not once did I deny it. But for some reason you seem to be blind and think that I deny it. Are those blinders still on? You are the one who refuses to admit that you have some major problems in America today that did not exist a few years ago.
       
       All you do is point fingers (in the hope that the problem would then vanish and you don't have to blame yourself for the vote you cast).
       
       Finally, if you're still looking for facts, check this specific post out for some facts which are very convincing, but you choose to say are funded by the left, yet provide no facts of your own to counter this study.
       https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/341 … ost4047453

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          Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Love the tweet, Brando! 

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             lobobrandonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             

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    Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

    
    
    
    I hear that Trump just received his brand new Pardon Pen from Amazon ?

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       Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       I hope he has the balls to use it to pardon Manafort as this will seal his doom!

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    Ed Fisherposted 5 years ago

    You can bet that he will use it IF he were to become closer to being compromised by Manafort's demise AND any plea deals to make him talk about Trump ! Do you really think that he wouldn't use it because it offends the Trump deranged like yourself?

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       Randy Godwinposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       I hope he does, ED. I don't think he has the balls to do so and Manafort's screwed anyway. You do know even with a pardon Manafort faces criminal charges in several other states. Trump cannot pardon him from state charges. He's gonna spend his life in prison no matter what the grabber does.

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    Nerzebulposted 3 years ago

    Well, can someone tell you how it ended? I rarely read news about politics, but this case interested me (strange). I am certainly not an expert, but I think that the second option would be better. I will not bet on this. My bets in relation to politics are not very good. It's much easier for me to bet on sports. Considering the information that can be obtained from the NFL Betting Public Consensus, the bets become very profitable and can bring relatively good profit. Hmm .. Does anyone know if there are bets on politics? I think it would be very unpredictable and interesting (lol). Well, I hope everything will be decided honestly in the end.

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