Money Won't Change It

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   The very thing that makes the government rich will make us poor.
   
   Any form of government will always have a tendency to become ever more totalitarian.
   
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEDd_QSwO9o

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I worked in radio off an on from the time I was 19 until I was 41, fulltime for the last 12 years. I never heard this song before. Wow! What a song. What music! What truth!

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         crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         The original lyrics are about a man earning money that his wife is spending. Odd choice.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I'm sure "woman" refers to government in this song.

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               crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               No.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Repeating:
                     
                     The original lyrics are about people/citizens earning money that their government is spending. 
                     
                     And a sentiment we can ALL agree on!

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                        crankaliciousposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        What kind of weird fake news are you trying to push? Here are the original lyrics:
                        
                        My father told me, lying on his bed of death
                        "Boy," he says, "woman she's gonna make it, don't fool your self
                        'Cause she's got something to make a man lay that money, uh, right in her hand
                        And the very thing that makes her rich will make you poor
                        The very thing that makes her rich will make you poor"
                        That's right!
                        
                        Well, I put you behind the wheel of a deuce and a quarter, yes I did
                        Had you living like a rich man's daughter, yes I did, I sure did
                        While you were living high on the hog
                        You had me down here scuffling like a dog
                        Well, the very thing that makes you rich makes me poor
                        The very thing that makes you rich makes me poor
                        
                        Don't you never ever make such a bad mistake
                        You know I'd rather climb into bed with a rattlesnake
                        Then to work hard every day bringing that woman all my pay
                        The very thing that makes you rich makes me poor
                        Makes me so damn poor
                        The thing that makes her rich makes me poor
                        The very thing that makes you rich make me poor
                        Very thing that makes you rich makes me poor
                        Makes me so damned poor
                        
                        Money won't change it, no no...

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            I wasn't listening to the lyrics, I was loving this version of the  blues. But if that is the gyst of the song, just substitute my ex husband for the wife, and it is still the truth.

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I'm sure so many can see/have that POV! 

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Ry Cooder's views are liberal. He is very cooly liberal. I don't know what he thinks of the Democratic Party THESE days, though. I wish he would join us here on HP.
         Anyway, listen to that whole record from 1979. Its called "Bop 'til You Drop."
         It was recorded with state of the art digital equipment that year. It was probably the last new record I bought.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Money is what changed it.
      
      According to the Constitution's Preamble there are not supposed to be any differences in the financial status of any people so if the nation is rich every man is and if it is poor every man is poor. That is why we need to use the Constitution [ https://hubpages.com/politics/The-U-S-C … ons-Spirit ] and get this nation in line with it.

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         DoubleScorpionposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         I don't see anything in the preamble that speaks to financial status? Could you explain your conclusion?

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            This is a scholar's interpretation of the Preamble:
            
            "The preamble is the introduction to the Constitution. It outlines the general goals of the framers: to create a just government and to ensure peace, an adequate national defense and a healthy, free nation. With its first three words, “We the People,” the preamble emphasizes that the nation is to be ruled by the people— not a king or a dictator, not the president, Supreme Court justices, members of Congress or state legislators. The U.S. Supreme Court held in 1905 (Jacobson v. Massachusetts) that the preamble is not a source of federal power or individuals’ rights. Rather, all rights and powers are set out in the articles and amendments that follow."
            
            I think the key is in Jacobson v. Massachusetts. "...not a source of federal power or individual's rights...."
            
            https://www.annenbergclassroom.org/constitution/

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            The0NatureBoyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Look at in order to form a more perfect union, equal Justice, tranquility and common welfare all of those together say there is to be a equal pay because in order for a company to obtain money for its services every worker has to be on the job. How can one earning $25 an hour be satisfied with someone else getting $25,000 per hour? Is there any unity in that behavior?
            
            I take it you are schooled to use the words without knowing their meanings. If so, it is time to educate yourself in the meanings, plural, of words. Most words' meaning will change in the context used. A perfect union means everyone thinks about everyone else and not selfishly "this is mine". If we were a United Nation that would be our mentality.

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      gmwilliamsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      No, governmental spending won't cure social ills; however, individual responsibility & accountability will.  People have to learn to be responsible & look into themselves to solve whatever socioeconomic problems they have.  People have to learn that it is mostly their fault for many problems they have.  There are those who love to look to the government to rescue them.  They view the government as their parents.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         ... and success is motivating! Success is the goal. How to succeed in life is the challenge we all happily face.
         ... as long as it (this challenge) is not forced upon us.
         And yet it is.
         In school, we are forced to get high marks. We are forced to study subjects and excel in them whether we are interested and motivated or not.
         Adults need to find ways to encourage the youth and to discover what each child has come to do. What are the intrinsic motivations and interests? Parents and teachers need to become sensitive to children and allow them to blossom while providing appropriate boundaries.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   Reconfigured lyrics by philosopher, Ry Cooder:
   
   Son:
   My father told me, lying on his bed of death,
   "Boy, " he says, " The government's gonna make it, don't fool your self
   'cause its got something to make a man (and a woman) lay that money right in its hand ...
   And the very thing that makes IT rich will make you poor!
   
   Repeating:
   The very thing that makes IT rich will make you poor!
   
   
   To the government:
   
   Well, I put you behind the wheel of a deuce and a quarter!
   Yes I did!
   I had you living like a rich man! Yes I did! I sure did!
   While you were living HIGH ON THE HOG
   You had me down here scuffling LIKE A DOG !!!!!!
   Well, the very thing that MAKES YOU RICH,
   MAKES ME POOR!
   
   Repeating:
   The Very Thing That Makes You Rich Makes Me Poor
   
   
   Father:
   
   Don't you never ever make such a bad mistake!
   You know I'd rather climb into bed with a rattlesnake!
   Then to work hard every day bringing that GOVERNMENT
   All my pay!
   The very thing that makes IT rich, makes me poor ...
   So damn poor!
   The thing that makes IT rich, makes me poor ...
   The very thing that makes IT rich, makes me poor ...
   Very thing that makes IT rich, makes me poor ...
   
   So damned poor!
   
   Money won't change it, no no

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   Q. What is that thing that the government has?
   A. People like Sandy Cortez and Bernie Sanders
   
   
   And what do they ACTUALLY have?

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      What do they actually have? Big ideas that will bankrupt the U.S. Sanders is just an angry old man, angry, I think because the U.S. won't buy his brand of socialism. Jake Tapper gave him way too much time in the debates last night. He's passing his torch on to Cortez. This country cannot have everyone financially equal. There is no such thing!
      No, I am not wealthy nor did I come from wealth. My family was poor after WWII, but we had something that many other poor people did not have, intelligence and ambition. We were able to work our way our of minimum wage jobs into good careers. We did it by hard work, not by being given "nest eggs" and free tuition and health care from the government. I saw a lot of young poor people, even children of so-called "white trash" do the same thing. They managed to get educations and worked themselves into good careers and even positions of authority. I believe that all of these proposed giveaways would sap our young people of ambition.
      One social injustice I would like to see rectified is educational opportunities. Why has the price of college risen so sharply in the last 25 years? The price of attending college should be lowered so the young wouldn't have to mortgage their futures to attend. In addition, lower percentage rates for student loans should be in effect for those who do need assistance. But free college for everyone, why! I'm thankful for our public schools today, but look at them and see what has happened. Are they on their way out? Republicans have their own agenda by trying to get free tuition for kids to attend private schools via government vouchers. That is equivalent to free college for even the wealthy kids. So their opposition is hypocritical.
      As grandma would say, "Lawdy, lawdy, what's this country coming to?"

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   The false notion that MONEY WILL CHANGE IT!

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I just wish a good middle-of-the-road candidate would run. I'm so sick of the extremists of both sides! I can't stand the misogynist Republicans because I spent nearly 20 years proving that women had a place in broadcasting, in the world, and even a voice in their own marriages. Especially after watching last night's debates very closely, I'm afraid the Dems are just setting themselves up for another Trump victory. I hope tonight's debate has some level-headed politicians in it for a change. (Level-headed politician, that's an oxymoron, isn't it?)

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         promisemposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Biden is a moderate Democrat. He has a reputation from the Senate of working with Republicans and has opposed many of the more extreme ideas of other Democrats.

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, so far he is my pick, but he keeps being put down because of his age and the socialist Dems are raising Cain over the way he handled things before some of them were born. I hope tonight's debates will keep him out front.
            
            I used to support Elizabeth Warren, but she lost me when she joined the socialists.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   "cause its got something to make a man (and a woman) lay that money right in its hand ..."
   
   feminine wiles?
   promises?
   idealism?
   The promise of equality?
   The promise of various entitlements?
   The hope of being loved?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   The original lyrics are about people/citizens earning money that their government is spending.  Not such an "Odd Choice."
   
   And a sentiment we can ALL agree on!

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   Of course, Trump is going to win with that line-up guys. Is that really the best you could do?
   
   Very suspicious, actually.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   Worth considering:
   
   "Why has the price of college risen so sharply in the last 25 years? (Very Good Question)
   The price of attending college should be lowered so the young wouldn't have to mortgage their futures to attend."
   
   "... lower percentage rates for student loans ... for those who ... need assistance." 
   
   "But free college for everyone? WHY?? "
   
   "I'm thankful for our public schools today, but look at them and see what has happened. Are they on their way out?"
   
   What will happen to free college?
   
   "Republicans have their own agenda by trying to get free tuition for kids to attend private schools via government vouchers." (Huh?)
   "That is equivalent to free college even for wealthy kids. So, their opposition is hypocritical."  MizBejabbers

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

   he meant woman as the government.
   Analogy
   a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
   "an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
   a correspondence or partial similarity.
   "the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
   a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.
   "works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"
   
   

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    Do some people LIKE the government spending all their hard earned money???

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       ....     well?

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          PrettyPantherposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Maybe your simplistic question is not worth our time.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

             ... so hard to say a simple NO
             How come?

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Yes. Bernie Sanders and Sandy Cortez (AOC) DO actually like the government spending their hard earned money! and apparently lots of other gullible people.

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          gmwilliamsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Happy to see you again, Kathryn.  You were deeply missed.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    No one likes the government spending their hard earned money.

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       NO ONE

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    I mean we have to pay what is owed. Begrudgingly ... every time.
    
    EQUALITY is what you  w a n t  to pay for?
    
    Really?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years ago

    We are a democratic republic. A democracy with representation.
    Yes. The people are the power.

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       Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

       Unless they aren't white.....

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          Very funny.
          I forgot to laugh, though.

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             Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

             Not a mistake on your part, I'm sure...

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    Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago

    The song sounded like it was about a woman. Yet relates to me more about the Government because only once a woman attempted to make me poor. Where the Government had many shots at me.
    
    Extreme, yet in the context of comedy it make sense.  George Carlin veiw was. The upper class dose none of the work and pays none of the taxes. The middle class dose all of the work and pays all of the taxes. The poor is just there to scare the hell out of the middle class. To make sure they showin'up at those jobs. .

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