Paris Olympics 2024 Medal Tally

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   
   Hmm! China scored 37 Gold and topped the tally. But America got more than 100 medals overall and is placed in 2nd position. So, Americans are more talented in Sports. Is Gold the norm to decide rankings?
   Here is the Top-Ten tally.

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      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Gold is the norm...if you are Chinese.
      
      If American, the total number of medals is what really counts.
      
      If Australian, they have about 2 medals per million people, while America has only about 1 per 3 million.  Medals per capita is how to choose the best country.
      
      Spin it however makes you feel good.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I like your perspective. Per Capita is a worthy norm.

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            Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Population and gold per million
            
            1.    Bahamas 8    389,482    20.5
            2    Hungary    181    9,684,679    18.7
            3    Finland    101    5,532,156    18.3
            4    Bermuda    1    62,506    16.0
            5    Sweden    148    10,036,379    14.7
            6    Norway    60    5,378,857    11.2
            7    New Zealand    534,783,063    11.1
            8    Grenada    1    112,003    8.9
            9    Jamaica    26    2,948,279    8.8
            10    Denmar 48    5,771,876    8.3
            
            US ranked 59th and China 78th.

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      tsmogposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Like Wilderness pointed out there are different perspectives to fit someone's fancy. I always raise an eye brow with both the gold count and the total count. But, I smile with glee with the track & field medal tally, which the U.S. dominated from what I understand. See link next a Google landing page that shows the tally.
      
      https://www.google.com/search?client=fi … edal+tally
      
      I participated in track & field in high school and college, so have a strong interest in it. I especially enjoyed immensely the men and women's relay events seeing them on TV. Relay events were always the most enjoyable when I ran. My best time running the half-mile was running a leg of one event.

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         wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         OMG - have you seen the womens 4X400 relay?  It was incredible!

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            Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Can't take my eyes of Sha'Carri Richardson
            American track athlete.
            
            Most beautiful I've ever seen running.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Tim, I always admire your deep research talents. You point out things with shreds of evidence and supported links.
         
         And, glad to know about your activities. During my childhood, I played only street games like cricket, Gulli Danda, and Kabaddi with my neighbors. I used to be very shy and meek in schools and colleges. My involvement in household tasks also didn't permit me to devote time for sports.

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      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Didn't watch, haven't paid much attention to the Olympics since the 90s.
      
      But back in those days America dominated winning and medals.
      
      Its interesting to see that the norm is for China to dominate them now.
      
      It appears the Olympics reflect, to some degree, what is going on in the world in terms of economics, trade and leadership.
      
      Australia benefiting from Russia's absence to claim the #3 spot.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Today's medal tally shows the US at no.1 Rank and China at 2, both countries with 40 Gold Medals.

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Russia has been kept away from the Olympic games, for the fourth time now.
         Back in the 70s and 80s Russia dominated the Olympics metals.  That's when men were men and women were men too.

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            Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, it is Politics. Olympics, Cricket, etc. depict the political atmosphere around the world.

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   Jodahposted 2 months ago

   Yes, Venkat. Wilderness described it perfectly. Countries usually use the stats that best suit their achievements. Mostly they are ranked in the number of gold achieved, but the USA often chooses total medal count, and Australia both number of gold and total medals per capita.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So, John, you like the per capita count. I also accept it as a good standard for judging the talents of a country or place.

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   Genna Eastposted 2 months ago

   Thanks for the update, Venkat.  Yes, the US uses total tallies.  The US does have more people and athletes, but also a strong sports culture, and four seasons across a broad geography that support training – especially, summer.  Yet ironically, per capita, we also have the least amount of people who could ever qualify for the Olympics. I’ve always preferred the Winter Games (figure skating/ice dancing are my favs), and I have to say it was a pleasure to see the US figure skating team members in Paris last week finally receive the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics Gold Medals in exchange for the Silver after waiting for more than two years.

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      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      That was pretty neat, wasn't it?  And the comment from one of the team, that they were glad the time was taken to really investigate it, was great, too.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         It is a Sunday today. A cooking day for us as the cook gets off on Sundays. So, I have been late in acknowledging all the above replies/comments.
         
         Thank you all for those informative replies/comments.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Genna, I am also a fan of Skating and Ice Hockey, etc. I enjoy both winter and summer games. I am a great fan of cricket.

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   Eric Cauncaposted 2 months ago

   

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   IslandBitesposted 2 months ago

   I honestly dont care about the rankings. Im proud and happy with our two bronze medals.
   
   Btw, I can get behind that "per capita" thing.

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      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I might, too.  But, realistically, it doesn't work very well, either. 
      
      If the US put as many athletes, per capita, into Paris as the Bahamas did we would certainly have won some more.  But we didn't - we can't.  Olympic limits catch up pretty quickly and we can't even come close to the figure of athletes per capita that the Bahamas did. 
      
      It might even help if we paid our winners more - I saw where the gold medalist from the Phillipines got a quarter million dollars, a house, an apartment and...wait for it...free colonoscopies for life.  I'm sure we'd have a lot more athletes if we gave them all free colonoscopies for life.
      
      Basically, I agree with you; whatever a country comes up with, including naught but massive effort, it is something to be proud of.  When you consider what those athletes have gone through, how they've worked for years and years, the sacrifices they've made - it is worthy of massive respect with or without a medal.

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         GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I had that "respect" thought for every event I watched. Even the least in the rankings was an achiever.
         
         GA

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I've been on the Canadain national swim team. But had to bow out of the Olympics, due the Arts payed me more to live by.  Imagine that, the arts being the lowest on the financial totem pole,  pays more than being a swimmers.
         An athlete financial life span is very short, Yet a sculptor artist hits their prime in their 60s. I'm still an international sculptor competitor at nearly age 70.
         
         One olympic wrestler won gold at age 41. He won 5 golds in 5 Olympics. Has any Olympician done better than him, in their athletic life span? Even professional athletes are cooked at that age.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I am glad to see so many comments on this thread. Each commenter expresses some important point.
         
         I hope our governments will provide much better opportunities and facilities to the players/participants who are contesting on behalf of their countries.

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         Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         American earning $36,000 for a gold mental.  Won't cover the bill until the next olympic in four years. Depending on what sport your in, can make a good living in sponsorship.  What a person learns about their desire, attitude and focus. Talent being the least important. Will take a persons work ethic into high energy into anything that person cares to pursuit.

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            Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            I don't get it. Do you say they get $36000 by selling a medal? The Gold medal doesn't cost even $1000.
            
            And, talent is the most important requirement for doing anything. Without talent, nobody can survive.

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               Castlepalomaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               The Governments pays each athletes  money for achieving  gold mentals.
               
               Everyone has talent of some kind.
               What's more important is desire, then attitude,  that's how a person gets along with others. Then focus the determination to execute your goals and dreams.
               
               A basketball player may have natural talent being tall, also talent can be required.  Without the skills of the 3 desire,attitude and focus. With all the work and love ethics,  talent gose no where.
               
               There were three other more talented people than me in art classes. The difference is those three other artist didn't choose art as a profession, I did for most waking hours of my life, 50 years of it. Most important work and love.

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         Eric Cauncaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Don't forget Filipino olympic medalists also receive condos, free flights for both local and international travel for life, free lifetime buffets, free life time gasoline supply and more.

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      Venkatachari Mposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      IslandBites, (I hope I can address like this), I fully agree with you. I started this discussion only for some engagement with our fellow hubbers. Personally, I respect all our players and participants in any tournaments or matches irrespective of their achievements, I love my country winning one Silver and 5 Bronze medals, though our population is more than 125 crores.

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