Liberal Judges and the Law

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   wildernessposted 4 days ago

   A New Mexico judge has been arrested for harboring illegal aliens that are a part of a Venezuelan gang.  He and his wife have been charged with tampering with evidence.
   
   https://www.koat.com/article/las-cruces … o/64583129
   
   A Wisconsin judge has been arrested for obstructing justice by hiding an illegal alien from ICE.  It appears that Judge Dugan escorted an illegal alien and his attorney through the jury room and onto the street in order to avoid ICE agents. 
   
   https://apnews.com/article/immigration- … 2347e631f6
   
   Critics have, of course, claimed that Trump is intimidating judges.  Judges that refuse to follow the law themselves even as they jail other criminals that don't follow it.  Bondi has called them on this ridiculous attitude that they, the judges, get to decide which laws shall be enforced and which they can violate with impunity.
   
   https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-hannah- … =121161497
   
   Question; will we next find conservative judges (or other law enforcement) deciding which laws they can violate, or will it remain limited to liberal judges?  If our judges are now willingly and intentionally violating the law are we still a nation of laws?  Or are liberal judges now in charge of legislating from the bench; no legislature needed for city, state and even national laws?  Is congress to be set aside in favor of judges that take it upon themselves to decide which laws they or the general public are subject to?

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      abwilliamsposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      I agree with Bondi, it is ridiculous! The antics of these so-called judges, makes a mockery of our country, and of our system of laws. What's worse, their intentions are far more deviant than mocking and defying.
      We MUST get back to the basics; but how do we get there?

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         wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

         Follow and support Trump in this matter.  Democrats will (and already are) crying out that they are being targeted and intimidated -- OK, that's what happens to ALL criminals.  You want to live on the wrong side of the law you WILL be targeted and you WILL be intimidated. 
         
         As has happened all too often (remember "No one is bugging his headquarters!") Trump is absolutely right here.

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      Kyler J Falkposted 12 hours agoin reply to this

      Being a victim of strict law enforcement where others are given leniency myself, I struggle to formulate a non-biased opinion on this matter. I'll do my best, though.
      
      It is my understanding that judges are given the ability to toy with legal outcomes outside of black and white law. They often dole out what we call justice based on their own perceptions of the matter as opposed to what the written word of law dictates. We see this no clearer than in televised high profile cases like Depp v. Herd, Hunter Biden, Trump, Tekashi 69, and celebrities of all sorts... judges don't seem to be required to follow the word of law and may use discretion in their pursuit of justice.
      
      Using my own personal experience here in Orange County/LA, murderers are more often than not let right back out onto the street. Drug dealers known to the community at large to regularly fuel the dark economy of the surrounding cities are ignored in favor of increasing incarceration for small time offenders. Rapists with preexisting behavior patterns and intent to re-offend are released early due to overcrowding. Heck, I even have a long-time acquaintance who continuously violently re-offends who just got out of prison for the seventh time, and he's already back on his nonsense because he knows he will spend two years in at most before a judge orders his release.
      
      Watch some livestreams of court like the Louisiana parole board (readily available on Youtube, weekly) and you'll see that judges have no obligation to follow the law of the land. We put them in these positions for that very reason, to interpret and reinterpret law, to establish new precedent, and to try to uphold what should be long-term positive outcomes.
      
      However, I'm going to add that this seems to be the same narrative pushed around harboring Jews during WWII. Should we feel sympathy for illegals? Should we harbor them like many of our predecessors/family did for the Jews in Nazi Germany? Are these illegals as oppressed as the Cambodians during Vietnam? Are these people worth altering the laws that were already broken?
      
      The answers to these questions no matter what they may be have far-reaching consequences, and I'm not confident there is one right answer. If there were more programs for assimilation in place, a solid American culture to assimilate people into that wasn't marred in identity politics, I'd be more readily supportive of harboring fugitives.

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   Sharlee01posted 4 days ago

   Great Thread!
   
   Absolutely spot on. I’m honestly stunned by what’s coming to light here, and even more stunned at how quietly it’s being treated by much of the media. A judge, someone sworn to uphold the law, allegedly harboring violent gang members and actively helping illegal aliens evade immigration authorities? It’s beyond reckless, it’s a betrayal of the very oath they took.
   
   It’s not just in New Mexico either. In Wisconsin, Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested for obstructing justice, allegedly helping an undocumented immigrant, Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, evade arrest by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Flores-Ruiz, a Mexican national, had previously been deported twice and reentered the U.S. illegally with a record of violence. This time, he was facing charges for misdemeanor battery and domestic abuse. Judge Dugan is accused of escorting him and his attorney through a non-public exit in the courthouse to avoid ICE agents waiting to arrest him. Thankfully, Flores-Ruiz was later apprehended outside the courthouse.
   
   In my view, we are watching a leftist judicial system that has been weaponized. Judges who are supposed to be neutral arbiters are now picking and choosing which laws they feel like following, all while jailing everyday Americans for far less. If judges start violating laws based on political ideology, we are no longer a nation of laws — we are a nation at the mercy of political operatives in robes.
   
   This can’t become the new normal. If liberal judges feel emboldened to break the law without consequence, what’s to stop others from doing the same? And where does that leave regular citizens who are still expected to live under the rules these judges casually toss aside? The foundation of justice must be impartial and consistent, otherwise, trust collapses.
   
   We need real accountability across the board, and we need it now. Judges aren’t kings, and they don’t get to rewrite or ignore laws to suit their personal or political agendas.

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      wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      "...they don’t get to rewrite or ignore laws to suit their personal or political agendas."
      
      At least they don't get to anymore.  Trump, and his crowd, are taking on the whole Democrat philosophy that liberals can do whatever they wish without regard to morality, ethics or law.  We can only hope he doesn't falter.

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         Sharlee01posted 3 days agoin reply to this

         I am keeping the faith--- they have not got him yet.  My cash would be on they won't.

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            wildernessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

            Were I Trump I would be out of the country on the last day of his Presidency.  I would STAY out of the country, for IMO they will work until his death to imprison him.  And eventually they will succeed, legally or not.

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               Credence2posted 14 hours agoin reply to this

               He keeps toying with the courts and their authority he will be sent to prison and he will deserve to be sent there.

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                  abwilliamsposted 13 hours agoin reply to this

                  Trump will go down in history as America's David, the hero who took on and defeated the D.C. establishment, swamp, deep state Goliath!
                  Too powerful to take down?
                  Too mighty to be brought to its knees?
                  Too big to be laid out?
                  Think again!

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                     Sharlee01posted 13 hours agoin reply to this

                     Amen—President Trump has earned a place in history reserved for only the most unshakable leaders. His presidency wasn’t about playing it safe or bending to the political winds, it was about challenging deeply entrenched systems, media narratives, and globalist ideologies that most leaders wouldn’t dare confront. He stood almost alone at times, unwavering in his commitment to put America first, even when it cost him politically and personally.
                     
                     What sets Trump apart is not just his policy positions, but the relentless spirit with which he pursued them. Whether it was reshaping trade deals, securing the border, confronting China, or challenging the weaponization of federal agencies, he fought battles others were too afraid to name, let alone take on. His cause to return power to the American people and defend the nation’s sovereignty was one that many deemed impossible in the face of the entrenched elite. But he didn't flinch.
                     
                     No matter how history is written by his critics, his fight will stand out as uniquely bold, one that broke through the mold of status-quo politics and inspired millions. His legacy will be remembered not just for what he accomplished, but for how fiercely and unapologetically he fought.
                     
                     He pulled back the curtain and exposed the ugliness that had long been hidden behind it—truths many were too afraid to confront. Some of us had the courage to face what was revealed, to see it clearly with our own eyes, while others panicked, clung to denial, and sought the comfort of familiar lies rather than face the hard reality unfolding before them.

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                     Credence2posted 12 hours agoin reply to this

                     So, AB, you buy off on all this Trump as the messiah stuff?
                     
                     Any man that stands can fall. This so called deep state is society governed under democratic principles with the Constitution as the guide;
                     
                     I am reminded of the story of the fate of a notorious New York gangster, “Legs Diamond”

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                        abwilliamsposted 5 hours agoin reply to this

                        Nope, otherwise I would have used a different Bible story! I haven't  turned him into Jesus, nor Satan!
                        I am well aware that Trump is just a man. Trying to do his job to the best of his ability, keep his promises, and pass on a better, [greater] America to the next Prez.

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               Sharlee01posted 13 hours agoin reply to this

               I understand where you're coming from, and I think it's important to acknowledge that while the hate from the left is palpable and often intensely personal, it could ironically work in Trump’s favor. Their obsession with discrediting him at all costs has, in many cases, backfired. From overreaching legal strategies to media narratives that fall apart under scrutiny, they often end up looking foolish and unhinged to average Americans who are just trying to live their lives. In fact, this relentless pressure has only sharpened Trump’s appeal to those who see him as a fighter standing alone against a broken system. And despite everything thrown at him, he’s had real legal wins: the Supreme Court upheld his administration’s use of the Administrative Expulsion Authority to deport illegal migrants involved in crime or gang activity, and several other cases have either been dismissed, weakened, or are clearly heading toward the Supreme Court, where constitutional balance may once again work in his favor. So while the attacks are loud, they also reveal just how desperate and incoherent the opposition has become. That level of visible floundering could very well become one of his greatest assets.

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                  wildernessposted 13 hours agoin reply to this

                  And yet...liberals are becoming increasingly violent.  We have seen one assassination attempt, and another was minutes away when stopped.  IMO this is going to grow right along with the increasing violence when liberals don't get their way.
                  
                  You may be right - I hope you are - but were I Trump I would leave the country I helped save from itself.

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                     Sharlee01posted 13 hours agoin reply to this

                     I can agree that he might find a better life if he left the country—but knowing the kind of man he is, I believe he’s far too dedicated to walk away. He’s likely to keep fighting long after he leaves the White House, not just for himself, but for the country he believes in.
                     
                     As for the Democrats, their tactics have undeniably grown more aggressive. What used to be implied through dog whistles is now shouted from the rooftops with bold, inflammatory rhetoric. The veil is off—they no longer hide their attempts to stir division or incite unrest. Sadly, the growing boldness in their messaging reflects a deeper unraveling of civil discourse in our political culture. In my view, their behavior is deeply off-putting. I find their constant rhetoric exhausting and disingenuous, so I choose to distance myself from it entirely.

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   IslandBitesposted 4 days ago

   crying out that they are being targeted and intimidated -- OK, that's what happens to ALL criminals.  You want to live on the wrong side of the law you WILL be targeted and you WILL be intimidated.
   
   That is true. Ironic, but true.

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   Credence2posted 4 days ago

   If prosecuting judges caught defying the law is appropriate, I will use the same logic to attack Trump and the Executive branch for doing the same.
   
   Good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

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      wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      Go for it.  With the hundreds (thousands?) of claims of Trump violating the law, I believe he has been convicted exactly once.  And that one took changing the law retroactively so he could be convicted of doing something that wasn't against the law when he did it.
      
      So yes, go for it and remember as you do so that he has had excellent teachers the past decade or so.

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         Credence2posted 4 days agoin reply to this

         "So yes, go for it and remember as you do so that he has had excellent teachers the past decade or so"
         
         You can bet that I will, and right now he is is in the dunce's chair.

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      abwilliamsposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      As if this is some newfound logic? You are going to "attack Trump", lol just go get back in line.

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         Credence2posted 4 days agoin reply to this

         I am more than willing to wait my turn for a swipe at him.

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            wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

            LOL  8 years wasn't enough of a wait?  It takes more than that?

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               Credence2posted 14 hours agoin reply to this

               How ever long that it takes for me to get to the head of the line…..

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                  wildernessposted 13 hours agoin reply to this

                  That would, at a guess, be a thousand or so lifetimes.
                  
                  But keep up the work!

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