Why are Men Leaving the Democrat Party?
Democrats set out to study young men
A widely mocked project to get under the hood about why Democrats are losing young men has sobering results.
The Democrats trying to understand young American men know people are roasting their plan.
All that mocking just proves their point, they said: Democrats aren’t taking this disaffected and politically alienated voting bloc seriously enough.
The group has a two-year, $20 million budget to study young men and how Democrats can reach them. The results of an initial round of research shared exclusively with POLITICO — including 30 focus groups and a national media consumption survey — found many young men believe that “neither party has our back,” as one Black man from Georgia said in a focus group. Participants described the Democratic Party as overly-scripted and cautious, while Republicans are seen as confident and unafraid to offend.
“Democrats are seen as weak, whereas Republicans are seen as strong,” Hogue said. “Young men also spoke of being invisible to the Democratic coalition, and so you’ve got this weak problem and then you’ve got this, ‘I don’t think they care about me’ problem, and I think the combination is kind of a killer.”
The SAM project — which turned into a punchline for liberals and conservatives alike — is pitching itself to donors and officials as a hub for research, paid advertising and influencer outreach that’s focused on young men, a once-critical part of the Democratic coalition that they lost to President Donald Trump in 2024. The group was founded by Hogue, the former president of NARAL; John Della Volpe, a pollster who specializes in Gen Z voters; and former Texas Rep. Colin Allred, who unsuccessfully ran for Senate last year.
The focus groups found that young men feel they are in crisis: stressed, ashamed and confused over what it means to be a man in 2025. They vented about conflicting cultural messages of masculinity that put them in a “no-win situation around the meaning of ‘a man,’” according to the SAM project memo.
Young men’s feelings of crisis are connected to their exodus from the party, SAM’s research suggests. SAM’s national survey found that just 27 percent of young men viewed the Democratic Party positively, while 43 percent of them viewed the Republican Party favorably. The polling sample included 23 percent self-described Democrats, 28 percent Republicans and 36 percent independents.
In last year’s presidential election, the gender gap leapt to 13 percentage points nationally, up from 9 percentage points in 2020, the Democratic firm Catalist found in its final 2024 analysis that men’s support for Kamala Harris dropped by 6 points, winning just 42 percent of men — the lowest on record in recent elections.
That gap became even more pronounced among 18- and 29-year-olds. Just 46 percent of young men voted for Harris in 2024. The losses tracked across every racial group, and the most pronounced hemorrhaging came among Latinos and Black men.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/0 … y-00384370The focus groups found that young men feel they are in crisis: stressed, ashamed and confused over what it means to be a man in 2025. They vented about conflicting cultural messages of masculinity that put them in a “no-win situation around the meaning of ‘a man,’” according to the SAM project memo.
Have young men become so insecure that they let a rag topped coward define masculinity for them.
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They described how the Covid pandemic left them isolated and socially disconnected. They also said they now feel overwhelmed by economic anxiety, making “traditional milestones,” like buying a home or saving for kids’ college, “feel impossible,” an analysis of the research said.
Yes, and they expect a foppish billionaire to really be concerned about these issues while he just lines the pockets of his wealthy constituency. Harris offered more concrete proposals, Trump just talks…..
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Those challenges for Democrats echoed through the focus groups. An Asian American professional described Democrats as embracing “the fluid masculinity of being, like, empathetic and sensitive,” while “Republicans are more like, the traditional masculinity of a provider, strong, and the machismo type.”
It’s all bullsh!t, its an illusion that is contrary to life in the real world, where “me Tarzan and you Jane” wont do anymore…. There is more to being a “man” than the macho reflex. Experience and intelligence is in short supply among those men that are in anxiety regarding such matters and looking for a racist, misogynistic and corrupt Republican Party for an answer?"...looking for a racist, misogynistic and corrupt Republican Party..."
I mean, they'd gladly stick with the Democrats if they didn't feel like it was lose lose.
A narrow view of the problem you have nonetheless.
Do you see a craving for a return to racism? It's actually a craving for the familiar, one which every human and animal since the inception of history and beyond can relate to. We all desire to be surrounded by those familiar to us, even animals, it's nature's way of telling you that you're safe and racism is a product of societal constructs acting against that nature.
Do you see a desire for a return to the wife-beating times of not long ago? It's actually a desire to re-stigmatize hedonism in its public form. Young men are tired of feeling like they have to shut up and settle as women call for them to do more, be more, and provide more in a dying economy and crumbling social ecosystem that no longer serves them. The young males pandered to the matriarchy at the shrieking demand of those aging out of the markets, and they are now realizing it was a mistake to bend the knee even if only for show.
As for corruption, we can point fingers in all directions. Bring back the days of the guillotine, drag lawmakers, lobbyists, CEOs, and politicians into the street, the youth don't really care what happens so long as those causing the suffering are made to suffer tenfold. Can't say I support such sentiments, but I can't say there isn't something satisfying about seeing a CEO get Luigi'd in an act of misguided altruism and desperation.
From my perspective, the democrats have spent so much time, money, and effort toward putting square pegs in round holes that the youth have grown tired of paying the highest physical, spiritual, and emotional expenses at the party's behest. The male youth want purpose, a future that serves them and their chosen communities, something that drives them to get up and be the provider, be the strong one, and be the foundation of society the democrats continue to chip away at and claim is progress as reality pushes back against them harder.
You can sit and focus on extremist ideas of the loud, marginal minority all you want, but the majority are showing you with their actions and reactions that the democratic party is now being widely perceived as the same enemy they claim to be fighting.
It's been long past due that the democratic party actively shifts their presentation of their agenda, even if the shift is purely symbolic to placate the violently passionate youth of today.
Have one of my favorite quotes that perfectly reflects the mental state of the male youth in America today on all sides:
"Man wants chaos. In fact, he's got to have it. Depression, strife, riots, murder. All this dread.
We're irresistibly drawn to that almost orgiastic state created out of death and destruction. It's in all of us. We revel in it.
Sure, the media tries to put a sad face on these things, painting them up as great human tragedies; but we all know the function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world, no!
Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them. The powers that be want us to be passive observers.
And they haven't given us any other options outside the occasional, purely symbolic, participatory act of voting.
'You want the puppet on the right, or the puppet on the left?'
I feel the time has come to project my own inadequacies and dissatisfaction into the sociopolitical and scientific schemes.
Let my own lack of a voice be heard.
[douses himself in gasoline and sets himself on fire]"
Something to think on. The youth will no longer pretend you're on their side just because you wrap a pretty bow around, "Don't worry, we have your best interests in mind," as nearly every aspect of their living reality becomes harsher and more unforgiving.
First step, take the concerns seriously and in earnest, or deal with the consequences of caging wild animals within a prison of ulterior agendas and misguided shaming.
Tl,dr: "Get with the times, or get in your grave, old man."Well, Kyler would supporting Trump and MAGA be a win-win?
Yes, I do see racism being promoted at the highest levels of government in a way never presented within the recent past, at least during my lifetime. It is natural for a craving for the familiar but at one time, that meant lynchings systematic government racism, etc. Does the craving for the familiar mean tormenting others who are different? A peaceful harmonious society requires respect for diversity and its acceptance as it is here and around much of the globe. That means not succumbing to animal instincts but using the reason only people have to get over petty prejudices and insecurities about people who do not look like you.
So who is responsible for the dying economy? The causes go well back before Biden and the Democrats. Trump says that he will bring back industries and business that have vacated America long ago on a simple capitalist principle. So, this old man, is aware that change is inevitable and natural and if that change points in the direction of giving any and all people more options and choices in life, then I am all for it. It is these “young men” that feel more comfortable with the values of an era that is gone for good. I am not “going back” without a fight even if it destroys the country. For, people that do and believe such things are not my people and when America’s vaunted credo is no longer valid, it does not deserve to continue.
Yes, I am part of that loud minority that will never again be subjected to chains without endless struggle that will eventually bring down the curtain. How are women making more demands of these young men, besides asking for the right to be more autonomous and independent?
So, what is MaGa and the Republicans offering as an alternative? Why should the Democratic Party take seriously clearly right wing and regressive voices, we will simply have to outvote such people and attitudes. You are as strong as you believe that you are, what happened to that self confidence?
How is it that young men are paying the “price” physically, spiritually and emotionally and why is that the Democrats fault? How is Trump going to fix this? Why should young men be the foundation of society, it used to be just white men. Why does your need for hegemony mean everybody else has to be under your foot? Who is going to allow that?
The anxiety of these young people will drive them insane and they will see them to their grave far earlier than I.
So what are the evils for these young men, that they can no longer claim unearned hegemony over everyone else? Do they prefer tyranny as long as they can retain some sort of unearned status? I am going to resist that as well as increasing numbers realize what this class wants.
Life is relative good and bad. The trends that these young men whine about has been in the making for the last 50 years, so who is going to allow a return to the mores and life of the period before?
Sorry, Kyler, these men want a zero sum outcome and it will not be tolerated in today’s world. Republicans are offering these misguided souls something that is simply no longer attainable and while Trump claims he can restore it, you can’t turn back a clock without breaking it. So, do they want to break the clock?At this point, supporting either side is just choosing what type of losing future they want, at least that's how my many peers and I see it.
As for acceptance and diversity, I don't think racism exists as a wide practice among the plebs anymore. It exists as a craving for the familiar, and governments of all levels and sides capitalize on that desire by amplifying racist sentiment intentionally. From my perspective, in my communities, people only become enraged when the government is grandstanding on identitarian issues that could otherwise be framed in a less, "divide and conquer," modality.
I see the economic collapse as a bipartisan endeavor, one brought about by our government being dictated by the global elite in the absence of fundamental collective altruism. That isn't to say a government with a strong sense of fundamental altruism would be any more successful than what we have now, only to touch on the age old adage that it's easier to sleep at night if you have sound moral principle that promotes the collective good. With layoffs skyrocketing, middle class becoming non-existent, taxes increasing, living expenses inflating, etc. all while the wealth gap grows exponentially with every new crisis, the youth would rather dissociate than participate at their expense and the benefit of those causing the problems.
As for women making more demands of young men, perhaps they aren't but that is the sentiment being pushed on young men, and I personally feel nothing has changed with women other than receiving more rights and countless platforms to endlessly utilize those rights. I think that lack of positive change for young men is where the real concern lies. Men are consistently asked to adapt, be the man, remain masculine, stay in touch with the feminine, adopt new perceptions, etc. while female rigidity and stubbornness is celebrated and encouraged. It's demoralizing for a young man in this age to see so much support for seemingly everyone and everything but him, and this is the widely expressed sentiment from male youth. (mind you I'm speaking to the youth narratives, not my own)
As for self-confidence, I think young men widely go from left to right due to seeing any tactic they use to change their party for the better on the left as hopeless due to their focus on women and otherwise aberrant behavior. Within the right, I've more often found that if I'm the strongest, can present my argument the most sound, and get enough voices to regurgitate my own sentiments, then even falsities can become the narrative pushed as truth. The right is known among clinical psychology practitioners to be the most gullible due to their respective naive moral senses of compassion as a collective, and I think young men with great zeal don't just find themselves faster within the right, but thriving and growing beyond their naivete and finding a community foundation that won't necessarily shame them for playing with ideas outside of the box like racism, sexism, misogyny/misandry, etc. I find more often the right will disagree with you and say, "Fuck you, now have a beer and shut up," while the left will burn you at the stake for minor deviations, speaking collectively of course.
You already know I'm less partisan, I don't support Trump as this savior figure, simply a figurehead for our chosen political party. I don't think Trump has any answers to any of these questions, because I don't think he has earnestly thought about the male youth outside of how to get them to enlist in the military faster, which credit should be given to his advisers and not him on that one. As for young men paying the highest prices for these changes I'll try to keep it a little bit more concise:
-Incel pandemic (we've discussed this, it's a broad issue given a simple name)
-Divorce-rape and child support (new colloquialism for unfair laws favoring women in court, often under archaic methodology that no longer applies in modern times)
-Hedonism in all of its forms leading to what is seen as moral decay and death of the family
-Loss of identity (identitarian politics purposefully excluding and shaming people based on identity, whites being a primary victim now with the script being flipped as opposed to eliminated for diversity, equity, and inclusion)
-Loss of community (no attempt being made to assimilate foreign immigrants,but every attempt made to shame anyone who wishes for assimilation and unity, among other things like identity politics)
-Traditionalism being viewed as oppressive (young men have checked out as a majority from dating due to shaming of the nuclear family)
-Social agendas that overwhelmingly favor everyone but young men at the personal, professional, and government levels
-Constant anti-male propaganda on social media, especially if you discuss the topic frequently
-Shaming, relentless shaming and cancellation for anything that dares push back in favor of young men
-Exclusion from college campus events and organizations based on male identity while open discrimination is okay from the opposition
-Women are illogically supported as both empowered and victimized simultaneously, and thus no long-term growth that promotes the male/female dynamic occurs at any meaningful level
-Women insisting upon occupying and being made to occupy male spaces that they claim they could do better within despite action and reaction showing otherwise
-Undermining of age-old wisdom and science concerning gender/sex/roles/etc. leading to a loss of identity at the interpersonal level and leading to aberrant behaviors
-No strong, masculine leadership at any level of society outside of marginal examples, and the left being so out of touch they have to establish entire think-tanks to resurrect young men in their party, then shaming their own party for their findings and efforts
I believe the crux of the issue is feeling discriminated against, powerless, helpless, and as if violence is the only way to be heard. Yes, they prefer tyranny to what we currently have so long as it favors their identity in image, but much more so they prefer chaos where they can pave the way for themselves as opposed to a restructuring of the social infrastructure that obviously does not wish to hear their input and desires unless it keeps to the status quo. In my experience, this is the modality of western politics right now, and it's getting worse because authoritarianism (the use of forceful/force tactics such as shaming, degradation, targeted litigation/judicial action) is seen as the only solution.
Absolutely, they want to break the clock, break society, and make everyone feel the pain they felt, because it is as you say: They will not be tolerated in today's world.
That very sentiment is what the youth see you fighting against for certain groups, and railing for as it concerns others. It's a problem the left is targeted for specifically and ad nauseam.
They will bring the pendulum to shift in their favor, or like so many times throughout history they will simply break the pendulum.
As for why this is the deomocrats' fault, it isn't solely, they're just an extremely easy target because they lead the charge in all of the misguided, most-oft racist/sexist/anti-nationalist/anti-family/anti-traditionalism/etc. endeavors we endure in society today. The right and left exist to balance one another, and I think we're quite near to falling right on our collective asses.
If you want to listen to an excellent, scholarly conversation on anti-racism and why the left is an easy target, among other things, here you go. It's a superb stepping stone into the perception of the right. As well, if you choose to branch out, I'd ask you compare some of the top liberal scholars to this now-rightwing scholar, take notice of the diction and presentation, and listen in earnest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzzxBqW6TM0&t=878s
Also, we may not agree on many things, but I hope ya know I deeply respect your passion for your side of the aisle. I don't actually want ya in your grave, if anything I want you on my side of the aisle, or at least somewhere we can stand in the middle and yell at people.Most intriguing, Kyler, your candor is appreciated. It is hard to get straight answers from conservatives regarding these things.
To objectify a bit:
“White Americans hold a disproportionately large share of the nation's wealth, with White households holding 84.1% of total family wealth in the second quarter of 2024. While White households make up 65.9% of the total, this means they own 28% more wealth than their representation in the U.S. might suggest.”
So, who is really the “underdog” here?
In reply to your first paragraph, Trump and his followers amplify racism intentionally for political gains and that is not going to play well, ultimately. We are obviously having problems with plebs are they are the ones making all of the fuss. The very story of America is the one about identitarian issues, maintaining an unjustified advantage of one group over another through bigotry and exclusion that was only rectified at the bang of the gavel, or the point of a bayonet. So, the victim or underdog gets an opportunity to come up for air, is that a bad thing?
Second paragraph
Economic collapse is bipartisan so the only reason that the young men cling to Trump and the Right is because that they merely tell them what they want to hear? But, just being told what these young men want to hear does not really address the issue at hand and its cause, does it? How is altruism defined, is it not concern for the needs of others and isnt it the antonym of selfishness?
“With layoffs skyrocketing, middle class becoming non-existent, taxes increasing, living expenses inflating, etc. all while the wealth gap grows exponentially with every new crisis, the youth would rather dissociate than participate at their expense and the benefit of those causing the problems.”
So what and who is the cause of all this? The capitalist system that the conservative extols creates this and perpetuate its continuation and its exacerbation. So why is breaking the clock associated with supporting Trump as his only solution is more mumbo-jumbo?
Third paragraph
How are democrats focused on women? The struggle for reproductive rights is not a reasonable focus on and for women? Women make up half of the population. It seems to me that the issue is that of women receiving parity within society and not just getting “more rights” at the expense of men. Funny the rabid right wing use to say the same thing about the black community at one time, “too many rights”. The same old song has a repeated refrain. Is it not better to get beyond immaturity and naivety rather than rally around it as Republicans want them to do. Yes, men have been asked to adapt, but do they not basically run the planet and haven’t they always? Maybe, that is the clock that needs to be broken? Playing with ideas “outside the box” is playing with me and my struggle (old black guys) for parity within the society. So, it may well prove be dangerous, such as opening a Pandora’s box. What could result would be pandaemonium that would make the 1960s look like a folk dance in comparison. Promoting biases instead of challenging them is not the answer.
Fourth paragraph
Yes, I am partisan because one party is far more in line with my values than the other and I am not ashamed to admit that. So, if Trump is not helping, is he really any better? Ok, where there is unfairness in how domestic related court issues are handled, it is a logical area to take offense.
Does Trump give the young men hope that these advantages that women have had for so long will be addressed? Is hedonism a new concept? What does maintaining family values mean and why are young men banking on the idea, is it supposed to give them an advantage? I don’t see any attack on those immigrants that choose to assimilate. What unity is desired is being undermined daily by Trump and the mileau that he promotes, using the same racist attacks and identity politics that his crowd supposedly abhors.
Social agendas that favors anyone else besides young men, are these the same guys that complain that they have difficulty getting dates. Speaking with a on the street lady in a passing conversation, she told me that “traditional” minded men discount their identity and their aspirations in life, and as a result would be a poor fit. What is it that these young men want to push back to? The new dynamic is mutual respect and rights and where that is not found, it should be corrected. I have always advocated that women should not be excluded from the requirement to register for selective service. So, fair is fair.
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Like I said, the complaints of young men is the desire for a “zero sum” outcome, I win, you lose. Chaos and tyranny will decimate society and what they hope to accomplish will become mere gossamer in their hands. It not a matter of “they” being tolerated, it is the idea that one group is allowed to take hegemony over another based solely on who they believe they are.
Instead of looking for easy targets and scapegoats, why not zero on the bullseyes as to the true reasons why young men believe that they are displaced todayYou make a lot of references to support for Trump, and I'm not the guy to ask those specific questions to. My fundamental belief on politicians, "Fuck them, don't trust them, fight them, send them mail and missives criticizing their poor choices and expressing constructive alternatives, make them afraid to act against the people's interests."
I'd sooner revolutionize and be an extremist against politicians than throw in my support for any of them. They don't gain their seats by merit, but by bribery, sycophancy, and nepotism. They're scum, the lot of them, regardless of the good works they do, this is the toll to be paid for being a politician. The people are better directly served by community members, and I'd argue that most, "great," politicians would have far more impact within those community roles than in service of the nation as a whole.
“White Americans hold a disproportionately large share of the nation's wealth, with White households holding 84.1% of total family wealth in the second quarter of 2024. While White households make up 65.9% of the total, this means they own 28% more wealth than their representation in the U.S. might suggest.”
The plebs of all parties and dispositions have recognized that whites profited off of slavery, and I challenge you to find one pleb who isn't concerned with the actions of our ancestors at their roots. No one is arguing this point, but the left will often touch back on things so far beyond modern man's control that the major point of, "we all need to move forward together," devolves into, "Alright, if I'm guilty of my ancestors' crimes, then I guess I also want to imbibe of their actions' boons too."
Double-edged sword that one, because on one side you have this altruistic desire to be equal in fair wealth, and on the other you have a desire from everyone to right every wrong possible. Thus, conflict arises, and the middle ground becomes no-man's land. Needs to be non-partisan, and politicians need to stop using racism in both directions so that people have leaders to stand staunchly behind and create that middle ground.
As for the solution to economic woes, you're going to see, "eat the rich," continuing to come to life. Class wars, revolution, social turmoil... Capitalism, or in less newspeak terms the free market, or any solution to the problem always results in a disproportionate hording of resources by a specific class. This is the way of things, and any solution implemented will have the same results. It's a sad sentiment to embrace, but history says this is the way. No side wins, the wealth simply redistributes, and I blame human nature for this.
Democrats are focused on any minority they can raise beyond their current levels, that's literally your tagline. However, I'd argue the resistance to it is because of two things: Propaganda/psychological warfare, and results often going against the best interests of individual communities that form the collective that is the USA. We regularly forget that many of the left's social initiatives promote foreign incursion on our soil, and just to give a specific example we have a porous border allowing in foreign state-sponsored agents en masse. The right, at least in appearance, hates how broad the left's strokes are.
As for degrading the identity of women, I agree. Keep in mind you have impressionable young minds being bombarded by propaganda both domestic and foreign on the matter on a second-to-second basis. This is relatively new with the inception of social media and everyone's constant connectivity to it. You'll see this change for the better as the necessary male leaders establish roots, and it is a slow, arduous, painful process that we can work together on. It's a social disease that has a cure if we can truly make it non-partisan. The cure being fairness, representation, and middle grounds where we can all be heard as individuals, and I think that comes with community leaders as opposed to grandstanding, dickhead politicians.
I agree with Trump being an absolute cunt, everyone sees it and either openly or secretly agrees. Another social disease with a cure of non-partisanship on the topic. As for what men want to push back to, the American dream, of course. We want the nuclear family, we want a staunch culture that promotes the American dream for all, we want non-partisanship as a collective community value, and we want the government to support Americans as much as they support foreign wars and agendas. We want a return to a non-partisan nationalism, a sense of security in our social lives, and an unfounded sense of American unity where we can all thrive together.
Yes, currently young males have chosen to bomb IVF clinics, commit mass shootings, rob, rape, murder at an increasing rate... All the while they cry for help and are told they are whining, not being man enough, and just generally being dismissed. Throughout history we see that this repeats over and over, and still people will sit and ask, "WTF, bro?"
Just some examples of this:
"1. Rebellions in the United States:
New York City Draft Riots (1863): Hundreds of young men protested the federal draft lottery, initiating a violent uprising in New York City.
Civil Rights Movement: Youth, including young men, played a vital role in various aspects of the movement, from sit-ins to Freedom Rides and voter registration drives, with groups like the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) being instrumental in organizing these efforts.
Vietnam War Protests: Young men were at the forefront of anti-war protests, driven by their potential for being drafted and their inspiration from the civil rights movement.
2. Rebellions in the American Colonies:
Stono Rebellion (1739): This was the largest slave revolt in the 13 colonies, and while accounts mention "dozens of enslaved men" who participated in the rebellion, the specific age of the leader, Jemmy, is not explicitly stated in the provided text.
Nat Turner's Rebellion (1831): Nat Turner, a young man who believed he was chosen by God to free his people, led this impactful revolt in Virginia.
3. Other Notable Cases:
Standing Rock Standoff (2016): What began as a protest led by a teenage group evolved into a larger movement against the Dakota Access Pipeline, involving young individuals like Jasilyn Charger.
Newsboys' Strike (1899): Thousands of young newsboys, some as young as seven, went on strike to protest against newspaper moguls.
Taos Pueblo Revolt (1680): While not explicitly stated as led by young men, the Pueblo Revolt involved a coalition of Pueblo peoples rebelling against Spanish rule in New Mexico."
Piss off the young males, and they will be sure you get your dues in return. This is the way of man. Railing against it, being partisan, dismissing them with cruelty and shame... You're gonna feel the wrath as those before us did.
You want to be heard, I want to be heard, they want to be heard. Fuck the politicians, fuck this society, and fuck anyone who stands in the way of true progress. We all deserve a voice, and right now the elites have chosen to continue down their path at all of our expenses. Still, it starts with the plebs seeing through the veils they cast over our eyes.
These are the sentiments of the youth, the drivers of the future, and we should pay heed to their warnings.As for politicians, what do these fellows think that Trump and his cabal are?
If anarchy is their goal, we can have a post-apocalyptic America or a Mad Max system akin to a Wild West scenario, ask them if they really prefer that?
Government is a positive good as long as corrupt elements are eliminated or kept to a minimum. We cannot eliminate all of the negative implications associated with human nature, as corrupt politicians are not a new concept. Wealth and affluent people corrupt politics and it was the conservatives that support this as “free speech”
“The plebs of all parties and dispositions have recognized that whites profited off of slavery,”
I don’t think that the Republicans party or conservatives in general know or appreciate that point. I am realistic and fair in regarding that I wont hold people living today for something that happened so long ago. But progress has been made to correct the disadvantages faced by the progeny of slaves at great cost and I just ask these young men to not revert on that and that is what Trump and his “ideology” represents.
Conservatives also like to distort information, equality of opportunity is different from equality of outcomes. We cannot fix what was broken in the past, but there is no reason to create impediments here and now.
Capitalism, by its very nature, is exploitive, so there needs to be brakes on just how much those with the most dollars can control the society and rest of us. In other words, I resist giving that specific class unlimited power and caprice. Our government should take it upon itself to prevent that. I have a pen pal or two in Britain, they say that while they have their wealthy, they are not allowed to have inordinate influence on how the government is run. Conservatives negatively refer to what I consider superior, socialism, I say that that is far better. But again, that is another perspective and point of view to be discussed later.
Extreme and continued inequity is the stuff from which revolutions are made. And it may occur here. This talk about the left encouraging incursion on American soil by aliens is more bullshyte. Instead of looking at the supply, how about the demand, how are those that hire people that are undocumented punished? Ask Trump about the Mexican gardeners he hired on his place?
I ask that the impressional “Young minds” to start thinking rationally instead. What is the motive of those that initiate the propaganda against women? Is it just another power grab in disguise? It is a problem that both male and female leaders need work upon with the goal of fairness for all. And it is not non-partisan as Republicans has stood in the forefront of resisting women’s rights. Republican legislatures in red states attempting to undo the outcome of ballot issues, plebiscites that explicitly supported women’s reproductive rights and options. You talk about “community” these legislators forget who they work for and believe that they are a power to themselves and not accountable to the people that elected them. That is a Republican, conservative phenomenon. I wont negotiate with that kind of attitude.
Yes, Trump is a C***, but these young men voted for him, regardless. I question the American Dream, it is as the late George Carlin once said “you have to be asleep to believe it.” There is little generational social mobility in this country. So, their dream is a fantasy. Non partisan will not be attainable for the foreseeable future as the differences between parties and ideologies are far too great for any chance that that chasm can be bridged. That is my opinion. We could probably say too much top down and too little bottom up.
On the cry for help, when minorities made the cry they were dismissed as thugs and whiners, why do the trials and tribulations of young (white) men prodigy of the richest and most powerful tribe in America seen as a national crisis?
Commenting on your “examples”
New York Draft riots of 1863
Rich man's war, poor man's fight":
The draft law allowed those who could afford it ($300) to avoid military service by hiring substitutes or paying a commutation fee. This created a perception of an unfair system where the wealthy could escape service while the working class was forced to fight.
Racial tensions:
Working-class Irish immigrants, who felt they were being forced to fight a war for the emancipation of African Americans, directed their anger towards African Americans. They feared that the war and emancipation would lead to an influx of black workers who would compete for their jobs.
Violence and destruction:
Rioters attacked draft offices, businesses, and homes, often targeting African Americans and the wealthy. They burned buildings, attacked police and soldiers, and engaged in widespread violence.
Colored Orphan Asylum:
A particularly brutal act of violence was the burning of the Colored Orphan Asylum, resulting in the near-destruction of the building, though all the children inside miraculously escape
There is the combination of the arrogance of wealth, capitalism and racism that we still deal with 160 years later.
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Newsboys' Strike (1899): Thousands of young newsboys, some as young as seven, went on strike to protest against newspaper moguls
Just so they could grow up and become the moguls themselves
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I appreciate the power and passion of the youth, I was involved in various protests highlighting different issues during a different era. But, there were about liberating people and insuring rights, not taking them away.
So, what is true progress, who gets to define it? I know what it means for me and it may very well be in conflict with what these “young men” want. While I can wish that the “elite” go away, history says that is not likely. But responsible approaches tend to limit their power and influence on the rights belonging to the man in the street. I try to be patient and wait on evolutionary change until I realize that certain concepts and attitudes will not change and has to be ferreted out or otherwise made inert. Trump and Trumpism is just such a circumstance in my opinion.Just an encompassing note for the overall conversation: The male youth sees our future battle as one versus left-wing and right-wing authoritarianism. They see it all in extremes, and I don't think our leaders are doing enough in the way of being an example contrary to this widespread belief. If you want source on the claims, look into the studies done on the dark tetrad traits and their presence within their respective sides. Findings show that the dark tetrad traits are almost synonymous with left-wing authoritarianism, while marginal in right-wing authoritarianism, it's an interesting hole of knowledge to stumble through.
The youth prefer right-wing authoritarianism to the left, and anarchy where the left would otherwise win. At least this is the current dynamic being found in psychological studies.
As for how the youth view Trump as an individual, they hold him in the same contempt as every other politician and elite: They don't have their interests in mind, and there is no trust. As for anarchy, it isn't the pinnacle desire, but it hearkens to the idea, "I'd rather we all lose than have my enemies win."
If we don't want young men to revert to racism, sexism, misogyny/misandry, etc. we need to assist them with directed efforts toward reestablishing the male identity in society, or they will fight viciously to do it themselves: "If a boy is not building his blocks, he will destroy them."
You must also let them explore the concepts openly as much as you push the counterpoints, or else they'll see themselves as being caged into ulterior agendas. Every light must have its dark, every point a counterpoint. You cannot have true knowledge of good without that of evil, nor be peaceful without being violent, and those are the lessons the left seem to want to eliminate in favor of just good, and just moral. It bites you in the ass at every turn.
Another thing to keep in mind would be the left's constant use of unfalsifiable truths and virtue signaling, and those things are interchangeable most often. The right sees the morality of the left as being susceptible to letting the proverbial serpents into the garden both knowingly and unknowingly. The left will violently defend the minority at the expense of the majority, and the right responds equally violently. I will say, however, the right is too slow to act on most everything good or bad preferring to sit and deliberate endlessly, and that goes back to my comments about the parties existing to balance one another, and we are failing there slowly but increasingly surely.
As for the claims of superiority of anything on the European continent, I couldn't comment in any appropriate way. Their cultures, religions, systems, standards, it all conflicts with American culture, standards, etc. Personally, I find their government policies to be well beyond authoritarian as it concerns social structure, and authoritarian in a direction I just couldn't support. Immigration and responses to crime are the reason I haven't moved away from the USA, as we seemingly have the most functional social welfare integration systems in the world, if not a bit too ham-fisted in every other way.
As for the lack of repercussions on supply and demand in immigration, the left shames and cancels the right for discussing it so those speaking on it with a meaningful platform must water down their presentation. I don't know a single sane individual on the right who hasn't called for severe repercussions for anyone enabling these problems. The biggest issue being we get no medium by which to hold the government accountable outside of that oncoming revolution. Violence is already erupting in the streets more frequently over this very issue, I was involved in several violent displays just yesterday in Los Angeles.
As for your view of the gender wars, and most everything else, if you don't drop the partisan view then you lose the youth. The youth are widely non-partisan outside of participatory conversation with partisans. The youth do not trust either side, this has been concluded by the left and right, and simply throw in their vote and voice as appropriately as possible while seeing their future become more bleak. At the end of the day, both sides are silencing all sides where it may undermine some agenda, and partisan language is the fastest way to lose one of the two majorities or even both simultaneously.
I could copy/paste your sentiments and change it to criticize the left, and it'd garner the same level of recognition and support from the right that you'd get from the left. It's its own zero sum game.
For the voting for Trump, that's because the right promotes more exploration of the many facets of society within a frame of thought that allows for good and evil to be explored equally. Trump, Musk, Rogan, Peterson the rest of the big rightwing figures right now once closely identified with the left. You lost your most influential figures among the youth, and Trump capitalized on that. You don't want to play to the desires of the other side in a constructive way, then you lose the other side to those you see as enemies.
You hearken back to a time that no longer exists outside of marginal pockets, and on an individual basis in America as it concerns the cries of minorities. This is why the left is losing the minority votes to Republicans as well. You want to base this on identitarian politics and moral authority, the right simply wants to move forward from it in a heavily regulated, slow way that favors the pleb over the elite. At this point, the youth see this argument as a, "divide and conquer," tactic from the authoritarian left, and the right see this as a way to capitalize on their rigidity. The youth generally believe in a race-blind collective, and the elites continue to pour gasoline on the fires of racism that should be long-dead.
I get no less than twelve state-sponsored work emails per day reminding me that I have to support every race, culture, creed, etc. except my own. I've had to go to court on several occasions, sue, and be settled out over discrimination, retaliation, etc. all centered around identitarian politics I avoid like the plague otherwise. This may be a California thing, and being a government contractor, but it's widespread in the industries I occupy nonetheless and most of us (mostly non-whites except me) find it disgusting, deceitful, and divisive.
Definition of true progress: Less partisanship, better universal social welfare, less foreign support during a social and economic downturn at home, non-identitarian equity, assimilation of those immigrating en masse, coherent culture, and separate but equally heard voices with equal action taken toward positive outcomes at the state level. The youth see society fracturing further and further, and progress to them is either the new accelerationist movement (which is very attractive to the youth despite its destructive ends), or unity in the sense of pursuing the betterment of the lesser man (plebs).
I'll close this specific response out by saying you need to keep in mind that the propaganda we are all exposed to is tailored to us as individuals. The algorithms show us propaganda based on our input, and are intentionally tailored to show us equal parts echo chamber and triggering polar-opposite extremism. Someone wants us radicalized against one another, and I'm unconvinced it's organic in any way as are most of my peers and those fighting this absolute garbage. We can't let the partisan divide and conquer strategy continue to win, it's archaic and counterintuitive.
The youth are particularly susceptible to this divisive propaganda, as they are the primary overconsumers of digital/social media.
If we don't start meeting in the middle, being the necessary non-partisan voices, then the elite will continue us down their path at our expense and their gain. I'd rather have a veritable revolutionary war than a civil war, and I already find myself warring with my fellow Americans at the behest of the elite.
Here's an excellent conversation in the perspective of the right concerning how the left's identitarian politics is perceived:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpjdSbjVZbAI watched 1:15 of the video before I was pulled away. Thanks for helping me understand what the hulabaloo is all about. The question remains is what is a left wing authoritarian? Give me an example of left wing authoritarianism . Just because Soviet and Nazi have “Socialism” in its title, it is far from that. Most of Western Europe is a much better model, that is anything but “authoritarian”.
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In Conclusion:
LWA is a complex and controversial concept. While some studies suggest that it is a real psychological tendency, others remain skeptical. The idea that liberals can exhibit rigid adherence to authority and aggressive behavior towards dissenters challenges traditional understandings of the left-wing political spectrum. Further research is needed to fully understand the nature, structure, and consequences of LWA.
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“I'd rather we all lose than have my enemies win."
I take that position as well as the good soldier that I am. So we have a Mexican standoff, I can only find solace in the fact that I won’t lose as much as the privilege classes. Let’s see who survives in post apocalyptic America.
I ask the young men to grow up and direct their ire to those that are directly responsible. Who is responsible for the increase in the cost of living that require women to work outside the home, when there was time and I was there when the male was the breadwinner and the women stayed home with the kids. Who except the most affluent families can operate that way today? Rather than burning down an orphanage or blaming minorities and women, why not have the courage to take on the system that is responsible?
Re-establish male identity? What does that mean? How far back in time do these courageous lads want to go where they will be satisfied that they have the overriding control that they believe that they have lost? I am very curious as to their answer. Do they believe that the rest of us are going to be content with their assessment?
Identitarian politics come from my minority group, for example, from shared experiences, where and when we were all identified in negative way and treated as such. We were deliberately excluded and we only had ourselves to rely on. And I understand that much of it was in the past, that is until now. I am not sitting where you are but if I were, I could easily share your complaint.
And what are the proverbial serpents that the right speaks of? Is it the rule of law, equal rights, civil rights, due process of law, freedom of religion or freedom from religion. On that basis, ask them to show me a left wing authoritarian government anywhere on earth.
These fellows need to realize that denying freedom of choice and autonomy rights to women shouldn’t be a partisan issue, but for the Right, it is what drives them.
‘For the voting for Trump, that's because the right promotes more exploration of the many facets of society within a frame of thought that allows for good and evil to be explored equally.”
My problem is that despotism, dictatorship in support of tyranny is not something I want to consider at all, it is a none starter, period. Do these apolitical men really believe that they are going to address their grievances in this way?
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“The youth generally believe in a race-blind collective, and the elites continue to pour gasoline on the fires of racism that should be long-dead.”
‘You want to base this on identitarian politics and moral authority, the right simply wants to move forward from it in a heavily regulated, slow way that favors the pleb over the elite.”
Trump is restoking those fires with his race baiting policies and attacks, so is it over, really or is it a herpes virus, just lying in wait for the opportunity to be symptomatic again?
So they really think that Trump gives a rats ass about the “man in the street”? Trump is the elite and his associates and cabinet members support that, so who is fooling who here? I think for example attacking health care affects the man in the street but not Trump and Musk. That is unless these young man want to do hari-Kari and don’t plan on getting old.
“Definition of true progress: Less partisanship, better universal social welfare, less foreign support during a social and economic downturn at home, non-identitarian equity, assimilation of those immigrating en masse, coherent culture, and separate but equally heard voices with equal action taken toward positive outcomes at the state level. The youth see society fracturing further and further, and progress to them is either the new accelerationist movement (which is very attractive to the youth despite its destructive ends), or unity in the sense of pursuing the betterment of the lesser man (plebs). “
https://www.adl.org/resources/article/w … erationism
So these young men are attracted to this movement yet on their other side of their mouths that want a race neutral society? Sounds like a bit of a contradiction to me.
We are more stridently partisan than anytime in recent history and it started with the election of Obama in 2008. Compromise has been considered the equivalent of surrender, thus nothing gets done.
The option of unity in the sense of pursuing the betterment of the lesser man is the better of the two you presented. It is and always has been about the distribution of wealth and the wielding of the necessary power to keep it. That reality has never really changed since the founding of the republic. It is just now, that that attitude is celebrated as a positive good. The have vs have not issue continues to be the real target of everyone's discontent, and should be recognized as such.Authoritarian: Supporting or utilizing coercive methods of enforcement to achieve or maintain stated goals.
Key features of the authoritarian left and right:
-Mandated ideological conformity on ideological issues (e.g., speech codes, identity politics).
-Top-down control over private sectors to ensure redistribution or regulation in line with equity goals/lack thereof.
-Suppression of dissent against left/right-wing social or cultural norms, often in the name of harm reduction or inclusion/exclusion.
-Strong regulatory or bureaucratic enforcement of policies promoting social equity or environmental justice/regulating said things.
-Government-imposed restrictions on behaviors or expressions seen as undermining traditional values/promoting opposition to these (e.g., on immigration, gender roles, religion).
-Centralized enforcement of nationalistic or moral norms, often through law enforcement or surveillance.
-Suppression of dissent against culturally conservative/liberal or nationalist/diversity narratives.
-Use of state power to protect entrenched hierarchies or economic elites under the banner of law and order/eat the rich.
Both left and right authoritarianism use the same methods, but the presentations of the methods and goals they carry out vary.
If I really have to break things down by specific examples on each one of these, then we are screwed as far as brevity goes. I'm sure you could give an example from either side for each one without my input, and if you can't then I don't want to participate in a one-way conversation.
"Rather than burning down an orphanage or blaming minorities and women, why not have the courage to take on the system that is responsible?"
I think the wanton violence we see is the as of yet marginal example of where young men are heading, and what most wish to avoid. As for blaming women and minorities, I don't see this as a widespread sentiment, but the sentiment itself is a reframing by the left to silence through shame those who are speaking their concerns on the many things we mentioned. "Das rayciss," or, "Das sexiss," to put it obtusely, is a form of authoritarian left speech control.
That isn't to say the right doesn't have its own preferred speech that it enforces with authoritarian tactics, nor to say many of the individual claims aren't valid, only to point out how worthless the speech control is for both sides.
"Re-establish male identity? What does that mean? How far back in time do these courageous lads want to go where they will be satisfied that they have the overriding control that they believe that they have lost? I am very curious as to their answer. Do they believe that the rest of us are going to be content with their assessment?"
For decades we have had to sit back and watch as fourth-wave feminism tore apart the male identity, and I'm not convinced this wasn't the continuation of the process by which we established our current broken education system, lack of work-life balance, and free markets overall. As for what we can do specifically, I've already listed the concerns young men have. If those concerns aren't to your liking, continue to brush them off, I don't know how better to convey the sentiments unless you want to specifically break things down one at a time and each in detail.
"And what are the proverbial serpents that the right speaks of?"
Those who accurately represent the dark tetrad traits, and find themselves easily nestled within the ranks of the left. Another topic I'd have to break down within its own message, as it's too broad and if you don't see it already then I'd probably have to argue for each and every prominent individual being what they are. Excluding the elite, I find these individuals rampant among the pleb left: Groomers, authoritarians, criminals, etc.
"My problem is that despotism, dictatorship in support of tyranny is not something I want to consider at all, it is a none starter, period. Do these apolitical men really believe that they are going to address their grievances in this way?"
I've told you they do not trust either side, but they hate the left more than the right. It's a participatory, volunteer system to vote, not some actual tool to get what it is they really want. Young men know they are increasingly sidelined, young women are shifting back to the right, and our system will continue to chug on where it has been absent of violent revolution regardless of which side is in charge.
"Trump is restoking those fires with his race baiting policies and attacks, so is it over, really or is it a herpes virus, just lying in wait for the opportunity to be symptomatic again?"
It's a social disease, one the human race has carried and will always carry, but war and revolution has stopped it countless times. This is the answer the youth crave, and they're just waiting for a chance to enlist under leaders who will actually carry it out in defiance of the partisan control system.
"So they really think that Trump gives a rats ass about the 'man in the street?' Trump is the elite and his associates and cabinet members support that, so who is fooling who here? I think for example attacking health care affects the man in the street but not Trump and Musk. That is unless these young man want to do hari-Kari and don’t plan on getting old."
I'll repeat it again and again if you really need it: THE YOUTH DON'T TRUST EITHER SIDE.
Suicide rates are rising, two men every minute and rising. Yes, they increasingly wish to throw their lives away if it means an end to their suffering regardless of any philosophical stance on that sentiment.
The youth are attracted to accelerationism as a symptom of the left's idealogues using authoritarian means to try to control them, and no it isn't a white supremacist movement though they're a convenient scapegoat to shut down discourse. It isn't, "Gee, I sure do hate women, immigrants, minorities, etc." It is, "Jesus Christ, all I said was we should return to more traditional roles, redistribute wealth downward to the pleb, and stop letting in all these foreigners to suck our tax dollars away and threaten our sovereignty and somehow I'm a white supremacist, regressive Nazi, [insert left-driven buzzphrases and dog whistles here]?"
The left is the main driving force for the youth shifting right, and the elites are the main driving force of, "divide and conquer," narratives like the ones we have been discussing this entire time. The system runs so deep that participation feels like you either get along to go along with one of the two retarded sides, or you check out, dissociate, and accept the destructive path we are on.
The youth blames the elite for the division, and the youth blames the elite left most of all for the continued division. Authoritarian left influence figures are insufferable, so much so that you lost the level heads of that demographic to the right, and even still those who drifted away to favor the future regularly call for the left to shut up, listen, and correct course so they can safely identify with the left again. However, the left tries to cancel them with every measure of control they have, and thus you push the youth further and further.
We oughta cut this conversation down to one specific point at a time, or we are going to lose out on good conversation lolKyler, Thanks for the interesting exchange. But, if these young men want what I it has been explained that they want, this tradwife thing, it going to be Helter Skelter and the resistance to reverting back will tear this society apart. Women are not going back to whalebone corsets and I certainly wont revert to “black jobs’.
Expect resistance, a great deal of it. So, are we ready to party, yet…..We are already organized, out in force, and growing in support by the minute. The streets of LA and New York are just the beginning. The world will listen and act accordingly, or they will witness history repeat itself, perhaps even both.
The best I can say is that you have a narrow partisan view of the problems the youth are facing, one I don't wish to shame you for and readily accept as par for the course due to our disingenuous news sources amplifying extremist sentiments.
Personally, and speaking for my collective of minds and muscle, we will continue to strive to solve the issues we face collectively whether it be by way of discourse or destruction. Preferably, we all ceasefire and meet in the middle to continue productive discourse.
Come on Credence...
What have these young men heard growing up the past Quarter Century?
Toxic Masculinity...
Me Too...
Perhaps you haven't noticed, the last couple of decades have been all about replacing Men with Women... they even repeat some of the same old stories as if it is new and groundbreaking... for instance: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation … 04311.html
What has the messaging been lately... that it is OK for men to be women?Ken, toxic masculinity is defined as being a bully and subjecting others to your will.
I see it as having women take a larger role and not replacing anyone. After all, they are half of the society.
I am really focused on the young men attitudes toward women XX chromosome's and why….
I did see the article, I am not intimidated, I don’t know why the mention of an all female crew would be heavily emphasized, there was a lady Cosmonaut 60 years ago, this gender hang up stuff is American problem when other societies, particularly western ones had have female prime ministers and women in leadership roles. Why is America so retrograde in this matter? I ask you.
I think the reason men are leaving the democrat party is they don't know what is a man. They don't even know what is a woman. This is why the democrat party pays $20 million dollars to learn why men are leaving their party. I'm wondering if democrats have any men in their party. If they did, they could save the $20 million and ask them.
Reminds me of a poem by the legendary writer Rudyard Kipling.
If—
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with wornout tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on”;
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings—nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run—
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
By Rudyard Kipling 1865 – 1936Ok, what here redeems the whining of our young men today?
I think democrats may want to listen to what young men are telling them and actually hear what they're saying.
I also believe that NOT referring to them as "whining of our young men today," should start immediately.
From a conservative perspective, it’s pretty clear why a lot of men are drifting away from the Democratic Party these days. One big reason is the cultural shift within the party. The Democrats have leaned heavily into identity politics, focusing on race, gender, and social justice issues in ways that many men, especially white men and working-class guys, find alienating. It feels like their concerns and values get pushed aside, replaced by what some call “woke” culture. This includes things like critical race theory and a redefinition of gender roles, which for many men comes off as an attack on traditional masculinity and family values they grew up with.
On the economic side, a lot of working-class men have been hit hard by deindustrialization and job losses. Many of the policies pushed by Democrats, like tougher environmental regulations and free trade agreements, are seen as contributing to the decline of manufacturing and mining jobs. These guys feel left behind because the party seems more focused on tech, service industries, and coastal elites than the realities of their lives. There’s also a growing perception that Democrats are out of touch with blue-collar America, reinforcing the feeling of alienation.
Then there’s the issue of crime and public safety. Over the past few years, especially with some Democrats talking about defunding the police, many men have grown concerned about rising crime rates and see the party as soft on law enforcement. For men who prioritize security for their families and communities, this is a huge turnoff. They often find themselves more aligned with Republican calls for law and order.
Foreign policy is another factor. Some men prefer a strong, assertive military and national defense stance, while they view Democrats as more hesitant or dovish internationally. This clashes with a sense of patriotism and national pride that many conservative men hold dear.
Lastly, religious and moral values play a role. Many men who are religious feel the Democratic Party has moved away from their core beliefs, especially on hot-button issues like abortion and traditional marriage. Conservatives tend to emphasize pro-life policies and family values, which resonate strongly with this group.
The numbers back this up too. Pew Research shows that women tend to identify with Democrats more than men, and men have been drifting Republican for some time. For example, in the 2020 election, about 48% of women voted Democrat compared to only 42% of men. Gallup data also reveals that white men favor Republicans by a wide margin, sometimes by 20 points or more. When it comes to working-class men, NPR and AP analyses confirm they are among the strongest Republican groups, driven by both cultural and economic concerns. Crime is a big issue too, with Gallup polls showing Republicans consistently more worried about crime than Democrats, influencing men who value public safety. And religious men overwhelmingly side with Republicans, with Pew Research indicating 60-70% support among observant men.
In short, from a conservative viewpoint, men are leaving the Democratic Party because they feel culturally and economically sidelined, concerned about safety, and disconnected from the party’s stance on national defense and traditional values. It’s a combination of these factors that’s pushing them toward the Republican side.
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