Faith and Interpretation

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   I am very bored with the bible trained belief system when there is no logic, only faith and interpretation to answer questions in a circle arguement to protect a government separatist god.
   
   
   Now, just for entertainment, I will have a conversation with myself as a non believer and answer my own questions through faith and interpretation as a believer.
   
   
   Me: Why would your god create everyone an individual to follow the same belief?
   
   
   Believer Interpretation: Well, God is every belief. It is your free will to choose to follow or not.

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   Me: If I don't believe, wouldn't I go to hell?
   
   
   Believer: Yes, but you are missing the point. The bible is about love, not hell. All you have to do is accept Jesus, how hard is that?
   
   
   Me: So I have to accept a belief that separates me from others to go to heaven?
   
   
   Believer: You have the free will to believe or not. Who wouldn't want to go to heaven?

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   Me: Why did god intervene physically with the bible, but not intervene to save innocents from dying?
   
   
   Believer: That would be interrupting free will. Besides, maybe he lets them die to teach us from living in sin.
   
   
   Me: I thought jesus already died for our sins?
   
   
   Believer: Next question please.

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   I'm with you marine...I already ahd some broad tell me that I was on the path of destruction because I am not catholic, I'm the New Age/Unitarian believer. And I was like so? I am proud of who I am and sick of ppl like you who tell me that I'm going to hell because of what I believe when GOD is the one who put me on the path I am on now. *GAG*

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree with you, but for our entertainment, I will respond as a believer.
      
      
      Believer: God didn't put you on that path. That is the path you chose. We all have free will to take the right path. Jesus loves you and wants you to make the right choices.
      
      
      And they say they aren't a separatist belief! Ridiculous.

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   Me: If the bible is not a separatist belief, why does it teach separatism of belief?
   
   
   Believer: It doesn't. If everyone would follow, we wouldn't be separate.
   
   Me: Everyone doesn't follow, doesn't that mean it is a separatist belief?
   
   
   Believer: The bible is true. You need to research. I have good book suggestions if you want me to email them to you.

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   lol that is so true, Marine so true it's sad.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And they say they don't have limited minds. How is a mind not limited when it is defined within a book?
      
      
      Believer: My mind is not defined to a book. God gave me an unlimited mind. All thoughts aren't good anyways, the devil is behind many negative thoughts.

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Me: then why read the book? it was written by MAN NOT GOD.
         
         Believer: because God told man what to write.
         
         
         which isn't true in anyway because the man takes what he wants from the teachings and writes their interpretation not God's or Jesus' at all.

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            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ha, excellent! Surprised I didn't write that one before you. Clearly I am not the only one tired of circular faith based separatist belief.

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               Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Oh trust me marine I am sick of it too. Yes I still believe in God and some of his teachings but I believe in a lot more now that I have grown up and able to think on my own, to feel on my own, and to come ito contact with other religions with an open mind and open heart. know what I mean?

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                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I also believe in individual belief, no matter what the belief, as long as it doesn't create separatist grouped belief where you are contradicting having an individual mind in the first place. Know exactly what you mean. Cheers to your individual mind.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Why did god created Hell in the first place, if he doesn't want us to go in there ?
   Why did he put the tree of wisdom in front of Adam and Eve ,if he didn't want his creation doomed ?
   and last but not least, Why a god would created such imperfect creation, being all powerful and with the means to create a perfect world ?

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      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You know what...I think God didn't create Hell. I seriously think that was man made to scare ppl.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I thought we had to give some questions to the believers. Hell is all over the bible.

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            Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            But I am a believer and that is what I think...and plus like i said before the Bible is written by Man not God.

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Go and tell that to the christians

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                  Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I have many many damn times..they just don't listen lmao they are hard of hearing and can't read...the bible clouds their true vision and clouds their hearts to the real truth. Shoot I had chick tell me that I am on the path of destruction. LMAO anyone else wanna join me on this path? I don't wanna be alone

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                     marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     The arrogant silly little prophet on my other thread does.

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                        Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I don't want an arrogant prophet joining me! I want ppl who are my friends and think like me...well not EXACTLY like me but you know what I mean

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                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Believer: God had the prophets interpret the bible. The bible is truth.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Believer: God didn't create hell, the devil did. Adam and Eve had free will to choose or not, he didn't want to intervene their free will. The world is perfect when you have faith and believe.

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Actually the free will is true...that is why I am more open minded and open hearted about other religions and beliefs as well as respect those who do not believe.

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   Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

   "Cheers to your individual mind"
   
   aaa shucks you're making me blush marine!

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Believer: He is the devil. Don't fall for it!

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   I pass

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      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You don't want to hang out with me on my path of destruction? I'm gonna go cry now. I'm all alone all alone!

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         : I'm a mean  Bloddy hell atheist

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            Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            MARINE Tantrum doesn't want to hang out with me on my path of destruction!

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               marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Believer: Have faith.

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               It's not that i don't want. the thing is I'm  in the middle of the creation of my own path of destruction

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                  Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Hey maybe they join up together at some point

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                     tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Maybe that would be worse than a nuclear bomb

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                        Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Hmmm....let's find out! HAHAHA

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            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Believer: Jesus still loves you.

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               What a waste of love

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                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Believer: No love wasted when you accept jesus. All is love when jesus is accepted.

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                     tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     but he isn't

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                        marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Believer: Jesus has nothing but love for you. Jesus died for your sins! Aren't you thankfull? Jesus is the only way to truth. If you deny jesus, you deny truth.

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                           tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                             the Truth is... I can't care less

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                              marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              Believer: Jesus still cares for you though. He will be there when you are ready. His love never stops caring.

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                                 tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 i will never be ready for jesus! Maybe I will be ready for you !

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                                    marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    Believer: Jesus is the only one. You may never be ready for jesus, but jesus will always be ready for you. Praise jesus.

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                                       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                       then he's not as keen as supposed.  On 2nd thoughts...maybe if he's still ready for me ,I will give it ago. what's his phone number ?

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                                          marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          Believer: He is always ready. He speaks whenever you will listen. His voice needs no phone. Give him you faith and prayer and he is there.

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                                             tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                             Do I have to take off my clothes ?

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                                                marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                Believer: Jesus accepts you naked or clothed. But, being naked in public is a sin, so wear clothes to the gate of heaven.

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                                                   tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                   Gate of heaven... is that a private club ?

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                                                      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Believer: Not at all, everyone is welcome, as long as they believe. Jesus wants you there with him.

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                                                         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                         But I don't. so we're going in circles. just as in all the other threads

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                                                            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Believer: The path to jesus is always a straight path to righteousness. Believe and you will see. Love is a one way path.

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    How do yuo like my picture now? it was from Halloween from last year? I was a seductress sorceress.

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       where did you say your path of destruction was ?

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       marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I will meet you there. Your path, you were saying?

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    I thought you two didn't want to hang out with me on my path. Uh huh! LMAO

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       marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Your path now shows leg!

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          Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          
          Oh Marine stop looking at my leg!

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             marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I have selective seeing. It selected my seeing. lol
             
             
             Believer: Leg's are a tool of the devil!

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                Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                To the Believer: Sweet I am going to use my tools HAHAHAHA
                
                To Marine:

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                   marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Believer: Use your tools as much as you want as long as my wife doesn't find out. What the hell, I have forgiveness to bail me out in the end.
                   
                   Well the believer does have a point.

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                      Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      HAHAHAHAHAHA oh you bad Marine you bad!

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                         marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         lol you drew it out of me in your sinful behaviour!

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    Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago

    Sinful behavior? I don't see anything sinful about posting last year's Halloween pic.

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       marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Believer: Halloween and legs are the devil!
       
       
       Stupid believer. Legs are heaven!

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          Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ooo I know how to slap the believer in the face. Christian beliefs came from Pagan beliefs. and it's true too! so Halloween isn't the devil haha
          
          and stupid believer is funny I like him better hahaha

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