Did Jesus Really Heal Or Was It A Placebo Effect?

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   vveaseyposted 12 years ago

   Did Jesus Really Heal Or Was It A Placebo Effect?
   
   

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   JThomp42posted 12 years ago

   Are you really serious? A Man who was blind from birth was healed just by Jesus touching his eyelids. A dead man was brought back to life? A dead girl was brought back to life across town and Jesus didn't even see her but rose her from death. No placebo effect in the history of man can do what Jesus did while in his ministry.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Good point! If you believe all those stories are true. I think it's a valid question, because maybe some people don't. It'll be interesting to see others comments.

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      oceansiderposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi JThomp42,
      Yes, Jesus did all of the healing you have just mentioned and so many more miracles as you know!  It's good to meet another brother in Christ!  Take care, Helen

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   backporchstoriesposted 12 years ago

   It has been well documented that Jesus was a healer.  In the natural healing way that God created is to set things in balance and the body will heal itself.  Faith and trust most certainly plays an important role in healing....if you want to label this the plaecebo effect.  Jesus healed people because He knew how to become the hollow bone that allowed God to work through Him.  This is how true healers of today are, hollow bones and turning their bodies over to the Creator!

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting as well! With a little different twist!

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      JThomp42posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Healers of today? Like Benny Hinn? If they have that gift from God then why aren't they in Children's cancer Hospitals healing those precious children? Instead of charging for tickets at an arena?

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      backporchstoriesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      When I refer to healers...they are genuine and work where Creator sends them....and with no following or fame....they are humble people and people you would never suspect.

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   Vegas Eliasposted 12 years ago

   I am sure Jesus really healed. Placebo effect in is the case of minor ailments. A man blind for several years cannot be healed instantly. Either the man had been pretending to be blind and received spiritual healing and as a result stopped to pretend to be blind or he really got healed. No one can pretend to be dead. Jesus did raise some dead persons. I am sure these were real miracles. There are some things which we cannot understand now; we may understand in the future when these subjects are properly researched and documented.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      As I said, if you believe all the stories are true. Some people don't.

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   lone77starposted 12 years ago

   Both sides of your question assume that the events mentioned in the New Testament happened.
   
   Your statement, "If you believe all those stories are true." Seems a bit non sequitur and not relevant to your original question, because now you're changing the subject to assume that the events might not have happened. Sloppy! Why don't you stick with the original question as asked?
   
   If the events happened, as you imply by your question, then there could not have been a placebo effect. @JThomp42 answered the question quite well.
   
   Just because you've never experience a miracle doesn't mean they don't exist. I've experienced miracles every bit as powerful as Moses parting the sea or Jesus walking on water.
   
   "Placebo" could never be used to describe something like that.
   
   The problem with disbelief is that you're denying your true self. In a very real sense, it's like Nero in the Matrix. He needed to wake up to see the real world.
   
   Miracles happen when you give up the ego (humility and confidence are key), but love and responsibility are also involved. But this cannot be done from the physical self; only from the immortal child of God within.
   
   And that's what Homo sapiens, civilization and religion are all about. That was their original purpose: awakening the children of God from their "long sleep."
   
   God created his children in his own image and likeness. And God is not Homo sapiens.

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      vveaseyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lone77star
      I didn't ask the question because I assume the events mentioned in the New Testament are true. I asked the question because I know many people believe they are true.
      The placebo effect is the belief effect

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      lone77starposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      By the same token, walking on water cannot be a placebo effect.

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   vveaseyposted 12 years ago

   Jesus said "For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
   Mark 11:23
   
   Well lone77star,  looks like Jesus disagrees with you when you say "By the same token, walking on water cannot be a placebo effect"
   
   I said the placebo is the belief effect and Jesus said "of you don't doubt in your heart but "Believe" (placebo effect) what you say will come to pass, it will happen!
   
   This includes casting mountains into the sea and walking the water don't you agree?

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