How do you show reality to Delusional People

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   Felicity Smokeposted 6 years ago

   What do you do if you are tired of people who are different in reality, then they think they are? and have to deal with them daily.

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      lovetherainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What exactly do you mean?

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         Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Hey,
         You can check my last comment in this section it will help

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      Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      It really depends on the apparent break. For those I interact with, who appear to consistently ignore reality of their person, I chalk it up to insecurity. If it's political, I chalk it up to different life experience. Their perception is just as valid as mine. If religious, again, life experience leads to different conclusions. If it concerns me, individually, I assume they are covering for their perception of their own shortcomings.
      
      But, if their perception disrupts your own harmony I agree with another hubber that avoidance is the best course of action.

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   Kierstin Gunsbergposted 6 years ago

   Put your energy elsewhere. Investing too much concern in people who aren't in reality kind of puts you at the same level after a while.

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      Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, but can't avoid the person so much if it's a family member.

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   Kenna McHughposted 6 years ago

   I try to see if I can understand their reality or find a reality to share with them and grow the relationship from there. It takes effort and time but worth it. If I try this and nothing comes about, I reassess the issue and decide if I should give up on the individual or not. It really depends on how important this individual is to me.

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      Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      What if the person is family can u give up on them?

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   holliesandhealthposted 6 years ago

   Give them facts and figures. If they don't listen disengage completely. That's how I usually handled my dad when he got too invested in his beliefs. When he said something offensive he'd be confused when I just walk away.

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      Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, that can work but it will somehow end up hurting them or loosing rrspect from their side and other family members or friends. You will be tagged as rude and disrespecting. Just a thought...

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   paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

   Family or not, banish them anyway; whatever it takes, get them out of your life. We have to deal with enough idiocy in the real world as it is; no way I'd be willing to come home to more of it every night on top of that.

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   Cre8torposted 6 years ago

   Well first I always consider (for this example) "If I think they are in a different reality, then they probably think I am too." I try not to let myself be SO certain that my reality is the "real" reality that it could cause me to be the reason that I can't deal with them. I like what Kenna said about trying to understand their reality. I mean if it's that far out of touch then I would probably seek help from a professional for them (or me?) but if not, I believe it's about recognizing where each is coming from, trying to find common ground to work with (which means both parties need to try and understand rather than convince each other that they're correct) and go from there. In the end however, it depends on who it is, what they mean to me, and how far I want or should go to make it work. In your case, it sounds like trying to make it work is needed and in my experience, sometimes I was and others I had to just accept the difference and learn to live in peace with it so long as it didn't compromise my morals or safety. Best of luck.

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      Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thank u for such a good advice... It's something we can work on without hurting both the parties...☺

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         threekeysposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Your profile explains how relevant and significant in your work area. To me, rightly or wrongly you earned those titles not only because of your work ethic and emotional intelligence. Yes?
         Apologies if Im slow here but could you expand upon your question for me.
         Im not exactly sure when you say this person is different in reality-compared to what or whom?
         Do you have a challenge in fitting this person into a bias box? Life  and people can be full of paradoxes and contradictions. Are they financially poor but retain a sense of dignity which upsets your world view? What do you mean?

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            Felicity Smokeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Hello,
            This is about few people in our family or colleagues who has set of ethics or have rules in life which they have made or love to follow. But sometimes it is difficult for them to follow them or they just choose to ignore them but expect everyone else to follow them. How do you tackle them, as they feel that they follow them or used to for long time bit in reality they don't. When you will tell them they won't accept it cause they think they follow it perfectly or they will give you a good excuse why they missed it this time.
            I hope my explanation suffices.☺

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   cheaptrickposted 6 years ago

   You have a brain,a processor if you will,which exists in total isolation inside your skull.This processor has only the data supplied it by the senses,which are woefully inadequate in their ability to convey information to make sense of the world.The brain must 'fill in' the blank spots (by various means) to complete a persons perception of what we call 'reality' which is why reality is subjective.As of yet empirical science is having a hard time of proving an 'independent' reality.
   We,in order to maintain some semblance of civility,agree on certain observations which are common (though Not necessarily correct) and call them 'reality'. People who don't conform to this 'norm' or 'Reality' are considered deviant (or,as I like to call them...myself included...Nut jobs) and that is the spice of life so long as they do not harm others (doing human sacrifice comes to mind...that's a no no).
   The people you present here (considering your description...which appears to be somewhat biased...no offense...) come under another descriptor...not 'deviant' but...how shall I say?...Self involved Hippocrates

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This is an interesting response, cheaptrick.
      
      "Everyone in this world is crazy except you and me and I'm not so sure about you."
      
      In other words:
      What makes me the sane one?
      Just my conviction of being right based on my insistence that I have the most sense? the most sanity? the most light?
      
      Delusional people do have some reality to them. It is their reality. If they want to tune into your reality, they will.
      Meanwhile, all you can really do is set a good example.
      
      Darn it.

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         wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         No, it is not "their reality".  It is the perception they give to reality, for there is only one reality, not one for every person.  Perceptions vary, but reality does not.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            How do you know?

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               threekeysposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Isnt reality only one reflection of someone's perception? And who are ypu going to say who really knows best? As Kathryn says"how do you know?"

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Perhaps I should re-phrase.  In the history of mankind not a single person has ever shown even one more reality to exist, let alone one for every person.

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                  threekeysposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  So are you saying thete is no one that can really say one's perception is right/wrong or better/worse? Have I now understood what you said?

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years ago

   Some people are delusional. They are not in touch with reality.
   Lets determine what reality is.  When the first settlers came to America .... compare their reality to the reality of the indigenous people. Which people were more in touch with reality?
   Are the descendants of the indigenous delusional since they refuse to give up their culture and heritage and continue (for the most part) to resist the "white man's" reality?

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Not sure what you mean.
      
      Reality of the indigenous; mountains, trees, water and both indigenous and immigrants in near contact.
      
      Reality of the immigrants: mountains, trees, water and both indigenous and immigrants in near contact.
      
      The "white man" now builds stone and wood buildings that reach far into the sky, but I don't see any indigenous people believing they aren't there and trying to walk through them - the reality is the same for both.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         … so, what is an example of a delusional person?

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            "… the apparent break" (with reality). As in, someone who is headed straight for a building saying, "there is no building up ahead."  and then walking right into it.  That would be a person exhibiting a definite break with reality. Of course, walking into the building would have the effect of waking him the heck up and forcing him to face reality. Sometimes the school of hard knocks is the solution for the delusional. We just have to bide our time. Like God does.

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               It won't necessarily force reality on that person.  A demon might have hit them in the face, God might have turned them or it might have been an invisible tree that they walked into.  Could have been a spaceship of ET's with anal probes that missed their grab.  Man has a tremendous facility for rationalizing whatever they want to be true, and an incredible propensity for hanging onto beliefs in the face of mountains of evidence.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            One who looks at a tree and declares it to be a lake.

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   cheaptrickposted 6 years ago

   How would one Identify a singular absolute reality without involving their subjective senses in one way or another?
   If we look at the idea or archetype of something simple...say a brick,and compare any two perceived bricks in the world,what would be the probability that they would be exactly the same?
   The notion that we all see,hear,smell,feel,and taste in exactly the same manner is incorrect.Each of us has an entirely unique overall perception of existence which is bound to our individually tuned senses.(check out synesthesia for an example of the senses gone awry).
   So who is to say,or has the means,to identify this independent reality that overrides subjective perception...and keep in mind that being consciously 'Unaware' of something (like walking into a building) does not prove an objective reality,neither does it remove that something from perception...unless of course you have found a way to access your subconscious mind,your unconscious mind,and the collective unconscious of humanity as a whole...not to mention 'probability' and the 'Higgs field' of infinite possibility...
   The brain 'lives' in total darkness...like a mushroom...fed crap by totally inadequate senses which distort everything they 'touch' lol
   As an atheist,I'll end this flash back inspired piece by referring to a New Testament verse (paraphrased of course)..."For now we see in a mirror dimly,but when perfection comes...we shall see face to face"...I suppose,if we're fortunate,we'll experience that...if not...oh well,it was a 'Hell' of a ride
   "For you are merely a thought form in the dreams of someone who is real in a way you cannot possibly hope to apprehend...nor should you try"~Anonymous~

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    Felicity Smokeposted 6 years ago

    Guys,
    Again the topic was, How do you show reality to people who are delusional.
    By reading all of yours discussions and comments I think everyone has their own perceptions and view on this single subject, which can be away from reality. So, I would like to state a quote here which I came across today:
    You stop explaining yourself when you realize people only understand from their level of perception - Jim Carrey

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