Are rehab's getting our addicts clean or getting them out of trouble?

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

   In my experience, before I got clean dozens of rehabs kept me clean during the 30 days there.
   
   I take responsibility to say I was there to get out of some kind of trouble, but I wonder how many are?
   
   I did not stay clean back then even with 90 day stays.
   
   After programs I believe are essential but like me many don't attend.
   
   What could we be offering as far as programs that would want an addict to stay in recovery or is it simply they have to want it.
   
   Also the cost of these institutions for many make it impossible to go?????????
   
   Thanks

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      schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not really sure but I'm guessing that keeping people alive gives them another chance.

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         cmontijoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I consider what your saying something really true

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      mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Love, Kimberly, lots and lots of love and respect - especially from new and old family keeps people in recovery, more than any program.  Helping people hang with people who don't use - replacing the old habits with new health - loving the well feeling and helping people see how sick they were and remember it as they get well, joyously, with lots of LOVE!  Living well keeps all of us out of all kinds of troubles.  Live well with what you've got, Kimberly, that's all you need to do!

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      jcmayer777posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I firmly believe rehab can work. 
      
      I think at least one major contributing reason it doesn't is that people complete their rehab, but go back to the same social situation they were in before.  Same friends, same dependent associates, etc.

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years ago

   good question KL.
   
   ..what if rehab took a more holistic approach and not with deadlines or goals preset...small goals set by the person not by the rehab facility...step by step as each goal is attained and if not attained - back to the beginning of the goal selection process.  rehab should take into context a person's entire life - focusing on an individuals strengths etc - the whole person and not just one aspect of their life.....everyone is different and a cookie cutter approach is not the answer.  Maybe this is already happening - i don't know really.  just my thoughts around it all.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I agree and there are now many rehabs using these approaches.  Mine also had acupuncture, meditation, therapy, music and a seriously strict healthy diet.

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

   Thank you for responding
   
   Such valid points
   
   And now if we could just get the cost down
   
   Mega yes people helping people
   
   I love this community
   
   Cheers
   
   

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      schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      x love you too

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         kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Love ya to bits

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years ago

   ..but then again KL...as for the cost...the cost is priceless right?..i think that makes sense 

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      schoolgirlforrealposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      true.

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

   I do agree cost is priceless but my rehab in La was $300,000 for dual diagnosis and yes the care incredible however as shameful as it was I used the day I was released and four others as well
   
   Being Canadian with no insurance there they only accepted cash
   
   It is not easy to just go to the ATM
   
   But others were cheaper and Canadian rehabs don't hold a candle to the care in us
   
   Either way it is a minimum of 2gs
   
   I wish it wasn't as most addicts are broke by the time they are rady for help
   
   Ultimately I got my help through NA and sober people
   
   Thank you again

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   Capric222posted 13 years ago

   mega..........most people have the people that they love and care about to support them.  But, there are a lot of people who don't.  So to say that's all it takes is not really the answer at all.  And no, I haven't had a drug problem, and yes, I had a loving family.  So, it's not my background making me say this.  It's me........

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I found oth to be true yet only maybe two people were still supportive when I hit rock bottom
      
      Thank you

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         bbnixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It seems that the whole notion of helping individuals to recovery, whatever the challenge, mental or physical, should be a massive priority of modern culture, but it cannot be allowed to one of bureaucratic entrenchment, individuals primarily assuring that they have jobs, and never likely to learn, grow, and even throw out old non productive ways of helping to solve the incredibly complex issues of our modern times.
         
         In fact, much like the notion of family, or the benefits and empowerment from our own live's personal supporters, who I would assure you, kimberly, continues to grow powerfully for you now and for every moment of the rest of your life.
         
         It is, invariably, an un-complex notion of standing by someone's side no matter what, and ultimately have the passion, tenacity, and sheer will power  - "Uncondional Love" . To be there in good times and bad, simple moments and the all-chaotic.
         
         To support someone even if you don't understand all the technical mumbo jumbo (a technical term) of what's affecting them . To listen to the experts, and believe in their abilities, yet never accept anything at face value. Do the research. And so, even in the face of the inescapable trauma and challenge, "go deeper'. Never give up!!! Never not be there for those you love and need you, ever....

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