We study Shakespeare's poems, and those of other classic writers. Shakespeare's poetry has been around for more than five hundred years! And yet today, children are learning about it in high school. Which makes me wonder: Who will be remembered and celebrated five hundred years from now, from our own time? I suspect Tupac's poetry (in the form of rap songs) will be studied by scholars and all sorts of people. I think today's poetry is rap music. Who will be remembered from our generation? Who do you think will be studied?
I don't think we have a Shakespeare floating around out there today, and if we did it would not be someone chanting to music. That is, IMO, a fad that will not endure. Popular "music" has deteriorated to little more than a loud metronome in many cases, and such will not be long remembered.
I beg to differ. If you scrutinize some of Tupac's lyrics--that's some good poetry right there. And Eminem is a master lyricist and has incredible rhymes.
Then get rid of the noise and let him read his poetry as other poets do.
Do you get the impression I don't like the rap sound?
Here is an example of Tupac's lyrics, which I won't post here because of the use of so many derogatory words. It is by far some of the worst tripe ever written and only appears to appeal to the lowest common denominators of society. This of course, says more about the state of our society and just how low and debase entertainment has stooped. Eminem's lyrics are not much better.
Btw, rhyming does not necessarily a good lyricist make. Anyone can pull up a rhyming dictionary.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/idontgiveafuck.html
Rap music is more the poetry of 10 years ago. For every thing, there is a season.
"I used to be 'with it'...then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm 'with' isn't 'it,' and what's 'it' is weird and scary to me. It'll happen to you too!" -- Grampa Simpson
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and mine is that rap music involves very little musical talent. It seems to be more of an electronic, computer type thing more than a guitar and drums type of thing. I will take a good old rock band any day.
Rap as poetry?
I think NOT
Rap is but a bunch of musically
untalented head bangers
oh it will be studied in the future
lets just hope its
not in the near future
Shhhh if we don't talk about it
it ma just go away
You know, while I was writing a hub on this very subject, I actually poured through some of the song lyrics. I have determined that Tupac and Biggie will NEVER be on parr with that of Shakespeare and other famous poets. It's just that we don't have anybody from our time who is a great poet. So the only place to look is at Rap music. Some of the rappers can make good lines, good rhymes, and metaphors and stuff. The profanity is what makes the lyrics bad, obviously.
I think that the purpose is the big difference. Rap crap is written #1 to make money and #2 to raise anger and violence in the listener. Poetry is written to raise the gentler, kinder emotions of love, wonder and awe, not an enormous rage against the world. Any demagogue on a soapbox can do the first, but the second takes a completely different mindset.
Exactly, to use those names in one sentence is to make a comparison between the extremes of talent.
Or, you could just do a search on "great modern poetry", Rap music does not produce good poetry.
http://blog.sfgate.com/drader/2011/03/0 … s-my-list/
http://100.best-poems.net/
http://www.poetrysoup.com/modern_poets/
It's much more than just the profanity, these guys have very little talent when it comes to writing anything, let alone poetry.
I would suggest listening to some of the artistic and social justice rappers, especially the women, before assuming the stuff on the charts is all there is. I am very anti-'thug life', but I have music on my iPod by King Kapisi who is an excellent pacific island rapper.
If it isn't about swearing , profanity , twerking and selfing. and the most racist form of "music "today Gee........ it just could be poetry .....NOT!
The rap that is not any of these things... is not any of these things.
I agree, even if i don't like hiphop. Lyrics of all songs are actually some kind of poetry. But hiphop tells more about society, with crime, drugs, alcohol and violence. Not just "Love me baby yeah" lyrics.
There is sometimes some beauty in rap music:
Pour out some liquor and I reminsce, cause through the drama
I can always depend on my mama
And when it seems that I'm hopeless
You say the words that can get me back in focus
When I was sick as a little kid
To keep me happy there's no limit to the things you did
And all my childhood memories
Are full of all the sweet things you did for me
And even though I act craaazy
I gotta thank the Lord that you made me
There are no words that can express how I feel
You never kept a secret, always stayed real
And I appreciate, how you raised me
And all the extra love that you gave me
I wish I could take the pain away
If you can make it through the night there's a brighter day
Everything will be alright if ya hold on
It's a struggle everyday, gotta roll on
And there's no way I can pay you back
But my plan is to show you that I understand
You are appreciated
--Tupac, "Dear Mama"
I anticipate my poems and stories will be in classrooms a hundred years from now.
Else, why do they beckon me so?
I write so the voices of centuries past can be heard by those that have yet to be born.
by TheBlondie 12 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks rap shouldn't be considered music?It isn't singing, its just fast talking- they are pretty much all about the same things, and all sound similar. Why is rap such a popular genre of music?
by Grace Marguerite Williams 10 years ago
What are the TEN WAYS that rap music has negatively impacted, even degenerated &demoralized, postmodern American society, cultures & mores?
by karl 12 years ago
Does rap music reflect society's problems or add to them?
by PR Morgan 13 years ago
Do you like listening to rap music?
by Williamjordan 14 years ago
With the times being as they are how do you feel about using rap to promote postive teen enviornment.Me personaly feel that it's wrong there nothing postive about today rap music and the message it sends teens. To many teens are dieing a head of time by living the message that rap promotes.
by Alexander Props 13 years ago
How much do you appreciate lyrics in rap?I'm writing a hub on this topic and I'm just curious, do you think rappers can't write good stuff? How do you compare their lyrics to poets lyrics
Copyright © 2025 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. HubPages® is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website.
Copyright © 2025 Maven Media Brands, LLC and respective owners.
As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.
For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy
Show DetailsNecessary | |
---|---|
HubPages Device ID | This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons. |
Login | This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service. |
Google Recaptcha | This is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy) |
Akismet | This is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Google Analytics | This is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Traffic Pixel | This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized. |
Amazon Web Services | This is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy) |
Cloudflare | This is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Hosted Libraries | Javascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy) |
Features | |
---|---|
Google Custom Search | This is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Maps | Some articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Charts | This is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy) |
Google AdSense Host API | This service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Google YouTube | Some articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Vimeo | Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Paypal | This is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Login | You can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Maven | This supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy) |
Marketing | |
---|---|
Google AdSense | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Google DoubleClick | Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Index Exchange | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Sovrn | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Ads | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Unified Ad Marketplace | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
AppNexus | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Openx | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Rubicon Project | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
TripleLift | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Say Media | We partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy) |
Remarketing Pixels | We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites. |
Conversion Tracking Pixels | We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service. |
Statistics | |
---|---|
Author Google Analytics | This is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy) |
Comscore | ComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Tracking Pixel | Some articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy) |
Clicksco | This is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy) |