Could my fellow poetry writers comment on this opinion I just received in the fo

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   Missy Smithposted 9 years ago

   Could my fellow poetry writers comment on this opinion I just received in the forum about my poems.
   
   TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94TIMETRAVELER2posted 22 minutes ago in reply to this
   Just taking a quick glance I see that some of your work is poetry and some is composed of blogs.  Neither of these do well generally on HP and also HP is not a blogging site.  Therefore, you would be wise to redirect your blogs so that they are not so personal to see if that helps any.

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   Darius Kamiabposted 9 years ago

   Well, there wouldn't be a section for 'poems and poetry' if it wasn't what HP had wanted or allowed people to post on their site, which makes the argument about whether or not it "does well" irrelevant. Also, who's to say what should and shouldn't be posted on HP other than HP themselves, regardless of how personal it is? That is the nature of poetry?

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   Missy Smithposted 9 years ago

   Thank you for commenting on this Darius. I was hoping to get a response just like yours. I really couldn't believe the comment I got, it's actually longer than what is posted here. He certainly had loads of advice, but to me they were only his personal opinions. Thanks again my fellow poetry comrade.

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   fpherj48posted 9 years ago

   OK Missy.....Let me see if I can answer this in a helpful way.  The original request you made as I read it was for your fellow-writers to check out your site (hubs & poems) and comment with advice (opinions) on your work.  Am I correct so far?
   You received some feedback, one of which was a comment from TT2 (above).....It seems you took unwarranted offense to this comment. Trust me Missy, I am no one's Attorney, but it's clear to me that TT2 was merely being honest with you and actually trying to help.
   Hubpages is definitely not a blogging site.  In fact, "blogging" is what we are specifically directed to avoid, in terms of the real "purpose" of HP.   
   Having said this Missy, if the social side of HP is your main intent, then it's all fine and dandy to do what you're doing.
     I'm not sure what your concern was.  Are you hoping for more traffic?  Higher earnings?  Better scores?  It's important to know what you're seeking to get from HP.
   
   The reality is that TT2's site is filled with the precise type of hubs that are the perfect example of what HP and "The Google Gods" want.  They are the articles that draw traffic (OUTSIDE traffic...where the money is) 
   
   I could not use my library of hubs as an example because I'm all over the place with my hubs....only a few of mine are the google-worthy kind.
   
   I am sure that TT2 did not intend to upset you.  (I say this because I've been here long enough to know so many of our fellow writers & their basic personalities)  It was obvious to me that TT2 was responding, believing you wanted advice about increasing traffic/earnings. 
   I have read some of your work and I know you are relatively new here and seem to be doing well. 
   
   Just do what you're comfortable with and give yourself time to find your own momentum. I hope I've helped.  Don't hesitate to ask for help from our Community. Relax and enjoy your HP experience.... Peace, Paula

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      Missy Smithposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I can see where there could of been a misunderstanding to my intent. I just wanted more feedback just for curiosity sake. We as writers like to have plenty of feedback on our work. I wasn't asking for specific advice or anything like that.

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      fpherj48posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I see.  In that case, I find the best way to attract readers to my work is to spend one day of the week just cruising around and reading as many hubs as possible & leaving engaging comments.  After a while, more will stop by your site!  Good luck

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      Faith Reaperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Paula is right, Missy, for more traffic from HP writers to your hubs, you must spend a lot of time reading others' hubs and commenting.  That is the only way I know of to gain new readers here in this wonderful community.

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   kaiyan717posted 9 years ago

   Not only is there poetry genres, but also creative writing. I have many poems on here and do they do well? Not particularly, I think one has about 10k hits on it, but I write them because I want to. That would be a comment that doesn't have to see the light of day.
   I think it was made to help you in some way, but I say write what you want. It really is a crap shoot of what will be viewed anyways. 
   I wonder by the comment, if you were asking how to improve your views, etc? If that were the case, he is right, more commercial hubs do better. How tos, reviews, etc.

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   Faith Reaperposted 9 years ago

   I think TT2 was responding as relates to those hubs that do well on Google moneywise.  I have some poems that have views over 4,000 or more and some on very personal topics; the highest one is about my grandson to be. I write a lot of non-fiction about my personal life experiences which have always been well-received much to my delight.  However, when I first joined HP, I spent several months just reading and commenting, as I still do, and then the readership came.  This is the only way I know of to gain HP readership is to read a lot yourself and leave sincere comments. However, it does take a good bit of time to build up a readership, but you must read others' work for that to happen.

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   NateB11posted 9 years ago

   In terms of traffic and making money, poetry and blogging do not do well here at HP. I'm afraid it's a fact. The only way such categories do well at all is if they are written in a way that takes SEO and keyword research into account. In other words, at least some part of the piece, particularly the title, has to reflect what people are searching for on the Net. That is the way writing on the Internet works. I published some poetry here and soon deleted it and moved it. The reason why is because it received very little traffic.
   
   However, many people write poetry here and, of course, I'm sure they enjoy it and maybe have a following among the community. If you do want traffic, Cardisa wrote a good Hub on how to get traffic to your poetry Hubs.
   
   I'm only addressing what TT2 said, I'm not addressing your work or its quality. TT2 is correct in the sense that poetry and blog-style posts do not do well in terms of traffic or money, and poetry might have a chance if SEO (search engine optimization) technique is applied. That is really the best way to get traffic, using SEO--unless you are skilled at promoting your work through social media or some other avenue.

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   Dana Tateposted 9 years ago

   I understand you wanted feed back on your poetry and not necessarily advice on how to make more money or, draw more traffic to your hubs. I feel Faith reaper, may have given you the best advice. Which is to seek out other poets and follow/comment their hubs. If you are seeking others opinions and not necessarily money, then it's best to lean more towards people who appreciate the art.  I hope this helps. By the way I also write poetry because it is my passion and I knew when I signed up that poetry was not viewed as well as other topics, so I try to promote my own work. P.s. I love your poetry.

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      Missy Smithposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Dana. You know what they say... You live and learn!

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   Jodahposted 9 years ago

   Hi Missy my friend. You sure found out what it was like to ask a question in the forums. TT2 was not trying to offend or criticize your work (or belittle poetry) I am sure, because I have known her awhile on here. It seems that those who frequent the forums and offer advice always come at it by the traffic and monetary side, and don't really understand that poets in particular write for themselves and their followers on Hub Pages...not for Google traffic. The number of comments on my hubs means more to me than number of views. Some of the most "successful" hubbers have hubs with only 2 or 3 comments, rarely read other peoples hubs and if they do, rarely comment. As you say, poetry should be treated as important and with equal status to any other category here. HP is a diverse place to write and there is room here for every different type of writer. We are not all writing here to make a living out of it..I write for fun and enjoyment, and know you do too. I also find that my most personal hubs where I share my real life experiences are my most popular with the HP community I am part of. You are part of that group too..and we love you.

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      Missy Smithposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you so much John. I mean I kept trying to explain this to everyone, but they were having none of it. I did apologize to TT2, because I realize the way I posted the question could have given the wrong idea to what I was trying to get across. TY.

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    moonlakeposted 9 years ago

    I don't see your hubs as blogs and don't understand why that would be said. Going on the forums can be an awful experience and stress people out. I can understand why you got stressed from it. Sometimes advice given on the forums is never given in a kind way. You do belong on HP and should stay.

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