The real reason online writers can't find good paying gigs

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  1. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
    Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago

    I am pasting an example of what is happening with article marketing these days. This is from greenenergyglobe.com and I am not promoting them I assure you. In fact this was copied and spun out of my own articles by whatever moron they hired to write thier website content. Sorry it is long but this is the crap these people are putting out to promote websits and products. No wonder ad revenues are dropping and sites don't pay much if anything up front anymore.

    "Green Renovations Can Make a Dream Home a Green HomeGreen renovations to spin your home in to a immature home can appear strenuous but today�s record has done it simpler than ever. We will demeanour at tips and products which can assistance you take value of immature renovations to begin enjoying price assets as good as you do something good for the �>
    environment.Green office office building methods and immature renovations have a good most benefits for homeowners as good as builders, and remodeling contractors. The most critical benefits to the homeowner who desires a immature home have been altogether continuance and intensity price savings. A immature home is really permanent and requires most reduction work or bid gripping up with maintenance. This will positively have hold up simpler on the normal homeowner whilst requiring fewer call backs for office building a whole and restoration contractors. Increasing appetite potency is the key cause in any immature home, and it is utterly unsentimental for roughly all homeowners to achieve. An energy-efficient home can save costs in assorted areas during brand new office building a whole or a immature renovation, it will additionally yield the homeowner assets any year by reduce application bills and upkeep expenses.Green office office building materials and vital home components do not need repairs really frequently, in actuality most immature restoration products will expected exist the homeowner. There have been most examples of immature renovations and immature remodeling practices which grasp tall levels of continuance and efficiency."

    PURE JUNK is all these kinds of articles are.

    1. Diskobolos profile image57
      Diskobolosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The reason is, because they suck. If they were good writers in the first place, they wouldn't be looking to make some petty money writing hubs about sex and global warming and whining how to get more traffic.

      1. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
        Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Wow really??? so you are telling me that the people who spend thier life writing and who come online and try to make a little extra income during the tough economy all suck? <snipped - no personal attacks in the forums>

        1. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
          Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          sorry  my last post was directed in respone to Diskobolos

          1. viryabo profile image95
            viryaboposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the clarification awaywithwords. smile

        2. Diskobolos profile image57
          Diskobolosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Haha dude it seems that my joking comment has really hit you in the nail.smile Just because I like to use a language that you and some folks might find offensive doesn't mean I'm angry or trying to offense or insult you or mean anything bad, I write the way i talk in my everyday life and half of the stuff I say are just a sarcastic jokes.

          My anger comes from, getting smacked around with latex gloves and having a daily anal probe and it would leave you bitter too??? You obviously missed that I didn't said that I'm assisting in surgeries, but I rather replied to a woman that said that. <snipped - no personal attacks in the Forums>

          1. Diskobolos profile image57
            Diskobolosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Try reading better next time. Btw I assume now that you think that Deborah Sexton is poor sap who gets to clean up and put the doctors gloves on his hands for him. and is getting smacked around with latex gloves and having a daily anal probe?smile

          2. Diskobolos profile image57
            Diskobolosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            So me saying that his psychological analysis that I'm getting smacked around with latex gloves and having a daily anal probe is dumb is snipped as personal attack, especially since it's based on his mistaken thinking that I'm assisting in surgeries, but him saying all that is not a personal attack? Way to go.smile

      2. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
        Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I also notice only one hub posted by this person about everything he/she hates and nothing of value to the community

    2. profile image0
      cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      well, who's going to read that after the first sentence anyway? it's almost nonsensical.

    3. SEO IT! profile image83
      SEO IT!posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I started writing web content two years ago and it took me a good year to get into the flow. I took horrible pay for a while because I wanted the experience. Experience HAS paid off.

      I now have regular buyers who pay decently.

      Additionally, I write content for one company that pays very well for web content, upload articles to dailyarticle.com and constant content, and win some reasonable projects at a bidding site. 

      As for the sample you posted? Very typical for those who want to pay $1/article, aren't interested in quality (keywords to get traffic) and/or wouldn't know good English if it bit them in their hiney.

    4. profile image0
      kims3003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I apologize for having to mention this but I, too, have run across articles lately written exactly like this. When I have gone to view the writers profile page, every single time, it has been a writer from a foreign country, primarily from India and other near by countries. I have yet to find one written by a writer residing in the U.S. Its my belief, that these are people who have heard about this way to generate money or to boost their businesses or websites, ??? and can't understand or write our language and are just trying to throw something together not realizing how ridiculous it sounds or appears. It would be like me trying to do something similar that people in another part of the world do, sitting here in Arizona, in front of my computer, having no idea what-so-ever how to speak or write or understand the language. I know there are many sites that are most critical of writers with making sure its not copied content, does not have any grammar or typo errors, etc. etc. yet I notice they have some how let articles like your example get past them or have even posted them. I don't understand this at all.

  2. ddsurfsca profile image72
    ddsurfscaposted 13 years ago

    I concur....sounds to me as if this person does not even understand what half of the words he is using even mean.
    The repeditive use of some of them seem to me that they are just trying to use big words.

  3. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
    Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago

    makes it tough for anyone who really writes quality to actually get paid for it. I can't say that I blame sites for not wanting to pay for anything other than performance based. Like I said my AC article on "green renovations" was in the top few spots on google, now this crap is on the upper second page and I am gone completely. Somehow I think Google F'd that up   lol

  4. mel22 profile image61
    mel22posted 13 years ago

    All spun articles are fake and drive out real ad revenues to those writing REAL articles. With all the fake spinning going on, and tightening of credit to companies , that will constrict advertising budgets which will in turn hit the web 2.0 companies revenues which will make an effect on publishers of those sites. I feel a web 2.0 bubble happening ( same as what happened with  the dot com bubble and the holidays were the last ditch effort at cashing in.. some did and some didn't ,but if you thought last  years  conversions were bad wait 'til this year!

  5. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
    Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago

    I recently saw an ad on a freelance site that was looking for writers to write 500 articles of 100 words each for $.20 each. YES THAT IS 20 CENTS!!!!! they had over 50 people bidding for that job. Even with software and computers how can anyone seriously do that ad make money.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image88
      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There are English speakers in third world countries, for whom that pay is acceptable.  That's our main problem. 

      The average Australian can make a better hourly rate cleaning toilets than freelance writing!

      1. Diskobolos profile image57
        Diskobolosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        It's all the matter of simple economics and supply and demand. Because of the internet revolution there is suddenly a great increase in the number of freelance writers. Many people who would otherwise have to do some shitty jobs, instead of doing those jobs try to make a living on the internet, often as a freelance writers, which is understandable. However that does not mean that a high quality freelance writers are making less than people cleaning toilets.

        Also, it's questionable who the freelance writer is. Is really anybody that writes something a writer? By that logic everyone that plays basketball on weekends is a basketball player. That doesn't mean that he is the professional basketball player. For someone working on the construction it is probably more appealing to be called freelance writer than construction worker, however to be a professional freelance writer he should be able to make a living out of that writing, which requires certain quality of work, just like to be a professional basketball player requires you to posses certain skill level.

  6. Diskobolos profile image57
    Diskobolosposted 13 years ago

    Ou and you really do have a Way With Words.smile

  7. wychic profile image84
    wychicposted 13 years ago

    Online writers can't find good-paying gigs? News to me...it's been enough to keep me fed, clothed, and housed for the last couple of years wink. Yes, people who are willing to pay well can be hard to find, but there are those out there who insist on quality and will pay market rates to get it. The people who offer laughable rates like .20-3.00 per article may get people who will deliver them articles...but they're likely spun off of badly-written, plagiarized articles to start with. Some get frustrated and claim there are no good freelancers out there, while others decide to run a $50 test and see what a quality writer can do for them. I participate in the Elance forums on occasion, and there are a lot of buyers who post asking about the quality issues...and those of us who are trying to make a living and a name for ourselves as quality writers happily fill them in on what kind of rates they can expect to pay professional writers, what to expect from their providers, and some of the things to look for in a proposal that might warn them about quality issues (i.e. if the proposal has typos and grammatical errors, what do you expect your articles will look like?). The work is out there, but it takes some hunting, a real willingness to work hard, and constant study of the language and in-demand types of writing no matter how well you think you know it.

  8. Uninvited Writer profile image76
    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    Do not feed the trolls smile

    1. Jane@CM profile image61
      Jane@CMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Repeat the above words!

  9. Has_aWayWithWords profile image63
    Has_aWayWithWordsposted 13 years ago

    I am still working on it,  I am writing articles now, I am actually looking for someone who can do a few today...whats your rate for about 600 words  general info on some ski products

    1. SEO IT! profile image83
      SEO IT!posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, am I late for that one! You can email me through my profile for rates, if you like.

  10. palmerlarryray profile image65
    palmerlarryrayposted 13 years ago

    Actually, those so called writers used to make finding work difficult for the rest of us because they charged $1 for 500 words.  I even lost a client or two to them once upon a time... at least temporarily.

    Once they got trash like that back, they were calling me to fix it.   HeHe.... I charged them double my normal fee and told them "It takes longer to rewrite trash than to write an original.  Here's your bill.  That's for not taking my bid in the first place." Every one of them paid it without complaint and I have never had to repeat the lesson with any of my long time clients.

    My point is this:  People who buy writing get what they pay for.  These guys might hurt our business a little but their mistakes insure that the rest of us can get our higher prices later on.

  11. livewithrichard profile image74
    livewithrichardposted 13 years ago

    Most people that buy those spun articles don't give a crap about he content anyway. They only want something that's going to pass a duplicate content checker so it can be submitted to any of a 1000 or so article directories in order to get a backlink or 2 in the author bio.  I own an article directory and I get multiple submissions like the one above everyday.

  12. profile image0
    JeanMeriamposted 13 years ago

    Wow. Where did you find that? It is not readable at all. I have heard there are programs that will spin your article and make it new for a new market and I wonder if that’s what you got there. And perhaps used by someone who does not know English and doesn’t know the difference.

  13. skyfire profile image82
    skyfireposted 13 years ago

    I see problem with buyers in this case. Why they even think that they'll get quality articles at 1$ ? (just cause 3rd world people do ? even if they do to certain limit, they'll get tired with low pay of 1$). If buyer doesn't get any writer for their blog or site then they simply pick autoblogging software or article spinner and pick random articles on keyword and feed their posts. This helps them get lot of keyword and content. I've seen many bloggers complaining about their content getting stolen by autoblog authors and even threatening for suing in reverse. Lot of splogs(spam blogs) and autoblogs needs to be flagged as spam IMO. But not so easy as they managed to duck google as well.

    1. Misha profile image63
      Mishaposted 13 years ago

      LOL I doubt it is a spun article. Most likely it just went through a series of automated translations. english-spanish-frech-english for example. Does not require even a cheap freelancer, just a computer with internet access - and takes a few seconds. lol

      night peeps smile

      1. Peter Hoggan profile image68
        Peter Hogganposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I personally blame the frech translation, Google translator just can’t handle it or Klingon for that mater. Its translation Jim, but not as we know it.

    2. skyfire profile image82
      skyfireposted 13 years ago

      Hilarious.

    3. skyfire profile image82
      skyfireposted 13 years ago

      GN Misha.

     
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