Random stupidity and people against Demand Studios

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

    CK while I respect your opinion, it is outright mean to target an individual Hubber of any kind by taking a thread out to degrade her.  You would have been much wiser to email her directly, have you approached her in any capacity?

    When I see an attack like this, I have no choice but to report you.  I am telling you so you know how awful this is to do.

    We are a community not a high school.

    I am not trying to be directly mean, nor do I know the hubber you are attacking.  It is not cool,  EVER


    1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
      CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this


      1. WryLilt profile image89
        WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I think Kimberlyslyrics was just trying to help you be aware of hubpages rules.

        It's against the ToS you agreed to when you signed up to defame a person or make any attacks on a person.

        Whether she reported it or not, chances are the team would become aware of it sooner or later anyway. And even if it is reported it will only be taken down after a manual review.

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          kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          thank you wry, that was exactly what I was trying to relay.


    2. valeriebelew profile image68
      valeriebelewposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      it is against the rules to harrass or target other hubbers.  You bet you've been flagged, and reported, and many people have written me informing me about you doing this.  if this isn't elementary school, stop acting like an elementary school aged kid.  Grow up, and play by the established rules.  That is what grown ups do.

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        kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this


      2. WryLilt profile image89
        WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        The original post has been removed...

  2. Mighty Mom profile image78
    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    I was recently accepted to write for Demand Studios so was of course curious to read the hub you mentioned.
    It seems pretty clear that it is one person's opinion based on her own experience. She did include the good, the bad, the ugly.
    Given that it took me 4 rewrites just to get my profile approved on DS, I can definitely understand her frustration!
    Are you a frequent DS writer? If so, and if your experience is positive, why not write your own hub?
    These days we are all looking for ways to make money and to maximize our time invested vs. the amount paid.
    If someone has experience -- good or bad -- that can save other hubbers from wasting their time and is willing to share it, I consider that a bonus of the HP community.
    That's my take on it, anyway. MM

    1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
      CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I can understand the point of making money -- but one shouldn't libel a perfectly legit company in doing so. The comments she made in her hub, and throughout her comments below it were riddled with downright false information, lies and malicious attacks.

      What bothers me, is that she removed a total of 32 comments that were provided over the past couple of days. These comments were measured, calm and pointed out the truth behind the falsities she was spreading.

      That is where my rant comes into place -- is that she is knowingly spreading false info and not allowing other hubbers to let readers know the actual truth of the matter.

      I write for a writing blog, I don't use HP that often, but believe me -- this post is going to be mentioned in our CWFail post tonight!

      <no self-promoting links, please review forum rules prior to posting.>

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        fenglinglingposted 13 years agoin reply to this


    2. sunforged profile image71
      sunforgedposted 13 years ago

      Why is 100 articles the cut-off point to be able to express ones personal experience?

      Im a DS writer also, I think its a simple and mostly brainless platform. I have yet to be forced to do a rewrite, but I pay careful attention to the formats requested.

      I can usually create two $15 articles in an hour. But when I first started I spent plenty of time trying to get  a grasp on the formats.

      I no longer need to pursue active income sources so my interest in DS has dissolved but I still see no problems with the article you so inappropriately highlighted (other then the use of bold text throughout the entire piece!)

    3. valeriebelew profile image68
      valeriebelewposted 13 years ago

      Take my link off of your hub immediately.  You have been flagged.  I don't want my link on your hub and you are not welcome on my sites, any of them.

      1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
        CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Your hubs are public. I was discussing a public hub that provided falsities, lies and slander.

        If you don't want people to discuss truth versus the rabid opinions posted, don't post it in public.

        besides. I don't have anything of yours on my hub.

    4. WryLilt profile image89
      WryLiltposted 13 years ago

      I see nothing wrong with the article.

      It's more of a warning for new writers. If new writers read that and are still happy to work for the amount mentioned, that's fine.

      In fact the author seems to point out that she sees no problem with people actually writing for the site - just that they should be aware of both pros and cons.

      I'd much prefer a semi-impartial article on a topic to one that is completely partial.

      I'd even read a site pointing out the bad points about hubpages if it was in fact correct. Wouldn't stop me writing for them. And there's no problem with saying something if it's true.

      1. lrohner profile image69
        lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        WryLilt--How do you know what is "true"? This hub is one person's perception--and a fairly limited one at that. I think that's why Chelsea is getting riled up. Those of us who are successful with DS are pretty protective of them. Do you know any other company who direct deposits twice weekly like clockwork, never misses a beat and has an entire team at our disposal? I average roughly $50/hour with them, but in large part because I worked my butt off to now routinely get assignments that pay much more than newbies. This whole thread could have been avoided if Valerie allowed comments just like her hub--the good, the bad and the ugly. smile

        1. WryLilt profile image89
          WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry I think I might have misphrased my post. (And I admit I have had -little- to do with DS)

          I agree about approving posts of all types (as long as they aren't rude or spam).

          However I think it is an appropriate warning based on personal experience and like all personal stories on the internet should be taken as such.

          So true from the woman's personal perspective maybe.

        2. CkhoffmanK profile image81
          CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly -- if it was in fact, the good bad and ugly, she would have allowed the numerous NON INFLAMMATORY comments to be left as is -- HP is afterall a community, and it's pretty low to produce something so flaming, while denying people to offer balance.

          I didn't say anything inflammatory until I came here. And I admit, personally linking to her site was probably out of line, but I wanted to bring it to peoples' attention because of its obviousness and how annoyed I was that this person was behaving so immaturely. Some very nice people posted there, offering very helpful feedback, only to be deleted and replaced with contemptuous comments by her saying "DS is full of bloodsuckers" and the ilk.

          Now shes threatening to report all of my hubs because of this forum post. I find that very weird, and a lot more aggressive than this forum was even began as.  I think it more than exposed the situation for what it is, and I actually feel pity for it now.

    5. CkhoffmanK profile image81
      CkhoffmanKposted 13 years ago

      Also, to everyone else. I didn't realize this was defaming anybody.

      I was simply pointing out that this hub was, itself, a blatant attack on a community while the author refuses to acknowledge comments that are letting readers know that her hub is not 100% truthful. I am not the only person who's comments she removed. There were quite a few of them. I think that shows even more that this hub author is promoting false information on Hub Pages.

      1. psycheskinner profile image82
        psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        People put all sorts of stuff on hubs. Let it go.

    6. sunforged profile image71
      sunforgedposted 13 years ago

      You are quite mistaken. The hub you mention is clearly written as a personal experience with DS.

      It is not filled with false information. Its an opinion.

      There is that glass houses thing too.

      "Normally Adsense has a 10 dollar bracket you must reach before you get your check." ckhoffmank (that is false information)

      And the "Fear Chronicles" is clearly outside of adsense TOS which in theory a danger to this community - much more so then an anecdotal account of one persons experience at DS.

      *edit* I did enjoy reading your three articles, I just agree with Kimberly about the complete inappropriateness of starting this thread in the first place

      1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
        CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I think it's you who is mistaken

        not gonna go into screenshots, but I haven't reached a $10.00 mark on my adsense account, and it says, and I quote,
          "When you reach the $10.00 minimum payout, you can provide your tax and payment information." -- That is directly on the Google adsense reports page -- so take up the false information with them.

        And, I would really love to know how Fear Chronicles is in defiance of the adsense TOS? -- I mean, I've read the TOS before anything to do with that, so I would like you to point out what you're referring to.

        In fact, if it is in defiance -- then I would say a good 50% of the hubs on here who do the same thing as I have done with FC are probably in the same boat as myself.


        I also already apologized for starting the thread -- I was just perturbed at how this person was behaving -- all the while collecting revenue based off of lies and not allowing people to point readers to some truthfulness behind the matter.

        1. WryLilt profile image89
          WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Once you reach $10 you can provide your payee and tax information and then they'll also send you a letter in the mail to verify your address. There is nothing mentioned about payment.

          However it's (generally) $100 before you get a payment.

          https://www.google.com/adsense/support/ … wer=139719

          See that above link for all the information regarding payment schedules and adsense.

          Amazon on the other hand will pay at $10 by some payment methods.

          1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
            CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That clarifies that then, thanks.

    7. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago


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        kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        ROTF  and LMFAO

    8. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago


      1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
        CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        ok, now that's adorable.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I have 2 cats who actually pose much like this when they are pissed at each other (no swords or costumes though)

    9. CkhoffmanK profile image81
      CkhoffmanKposted 13 years ago

      Okay, trying to clear things:

      yes, my OP was borderline insulting -- again, it wasn't meant to call anyone out. Again, I was just trying to share my disdain for people spreading falsities and refusing the truth of things. Like the person who wrote the mentioned article.

      I went out of my way to explain this to the so-called author of this piece, and even offered apology for her misunderstanding of what I was trying to convey.

      I also mentioned that I don't have anything published on my hubs about her article. Which is true. Instead of approving my comment (no surprise) she twisted it all up and posted this on her hub:

      http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/img/8 … 01073018AM

      I think that just goes to show that there are just plain mentally sick people out there. I tried to mesh things out with her so she'd know that I'm not part of some imaginary army of angry DS writers, tried to convey that I don't have any published hubs linking to her site -- and this is the response I get -- nothing but the same stuff she has been posting in retaliation against EVERY comment that people other than me have tried to post.

      I'm done. This person is obviously mentally ill, and therefore not even worth the energy. And she did all of this in public so she has nobody to blame but herself when people search and land on her hub to see her tantrums -- it's just a shame that she removed everything else that was said, so now it's just her yelling at imaginary comments.

      1. WryLilt profile image89
        WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I believe the woman has very little idea of how the internet works and is under the false impression that:

        1. A forum thread is the same as a hub.
        2. A hub is the same as a website.

        So that may have confused you a little since she in fact worded it incorrectly.

        However since the original post has been removed, I believe it would be best for everyone to leave this topic alone, as I'm going to do now. If people do continue posting in it I'm sure it will be locked by the moderators.

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years ago

      ck, you have crossed far to far over the line, mental illness?  When you suggest she is suffering from a disease as an insult you are clearly repeating your deleted OP.

      When you throw out mental illness at this woman's character, what in any capacity do you think you are mocking those that do suffer with?

      Yes insulting, mocking and demoralizing people not like you? 

      This I promise, you are being reported again as many of us have, and clearly are fine with being banned, I am literally in shock at your unimportant ramblings only to name call and delittle.  Have you read through this thread?????????????????????

      Do you not understand, and now you admit your OP was borderline insulting while 2 paragraphs later slap a mentally ill label on her face

      And it's hilarious, there was nothing wrong with her hub.

      I am tempted to go evaluate yours and return to how wonderful you must be, but I unlike you care about this site, which triples the ignorance because your not even talking about hubpages, no I have not been here 4 months, rather 16

      I really feel for the writer you spit on, and know you have a score to settle that she probably knows nothing about

      With that I wish you, nevermind, just shut off, unless this is giving you what...............


      1. CkhoffmanK profile image81
        CkhoffmanKposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        lol - get over yourself. The comment was about an obviously inflated response to a private apology I made to the author. When you apologize to someone and try to smooth things out, but instead they keep fanning the fire, yah.. I'd say that's a sign of being just downright crazy. Don't like that assertion? Not my problem, lady.

    11. Jaggedfrost profile image60
      Jaggedfrostposted 13 years ago

      Some forms of speech just cant be heard. There are people who are more touchy about such matters then others but when addressing the public, you usually have to speak in a way in which you cant be misunderstood and void from your comments any pejoratives that might be taken to be fingers pointed at types of difficulties that people actually face.   When buffooning things you have to give examples and avoid inflammatory words per say.  You did a decent job at the first but not so much at the second.

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