A real and true email love story - should I be sharing this?

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   crispsposted 14 years ago

   As I was putting together a computer from old parts, I found a hard drive that someone didn't erase. It was full of the owners emails. I felt a wrong reading them. But this passed quickly as I found them to be truthful, funny, romantic and touching. It's a real love story unfolding before your eyes.
   
   They are from 1999 and pretty amazing.  I became addicted to reading them and thought I should share them unedited (except I have changed the real names) at bored olives.
   
   Love to hear what you think.

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      psycheskinnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This guy has been spamming lots of different forums with this post for months.  I suspect it is just to promote his book.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      _________________________
      It's copyright infringement and invasion of privacy.
      If you are ready to suffer the consequences..by all means.
      
      if you put yourself in their place, you wouldn't have to ask.

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   Ethical? Moral?
   
   In theory, you don't have permission to use the contents of what's on the harddrive. Yes, I realize you received from someone else, but that was someone's life.
   
   It would be the same as a hacker of a unprotected machine- full access.
   
   So, I would say no.
   
   But, that's just me. What I say probably won't matter anyways.

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      Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Couldn't agree more.

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   libby101aposted 14 years ago

   Even if you think the story of someone's love life is amazing and romantic it is still personal! If these people come across their personal words on the internet... they could sue you if they have proof! And if the person on the other end of the computer kept their files they could have their proof easily!
   
   You shouldn't be reading someone elses personal stuff! I know, sometimes, we humans are nosey... but it's immoral and irresponsible to post them on the internet unless you found the original writers of the emails and got persmission in writing I would say NO WAY!!!

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   travelespressoposted 14 years ago

   I've a question Crisps.  How would you feel if someone bought your old computer, found a whole lot of emails you had sent to a loved one and published them?

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   Karandaposted 14 years ago

   Take a look at Bored Olives. Crisps has actually published those e-mails. Did you even give the authors the chance to approve your use of them? To me, it seems as immoral as a doctor revealing your symptoms to the rest of the world.

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      travelespressoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Noooo!  Is that true?  If so, its disgraceful behavior.  I searched Hub Pages for Bored Olives and Bored Olive and couldn't find him/her.

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         Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Do a google search, believe me, it's there.

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            travelespressoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yes...I found it thanks and he makes no secret of how the emails came into his possession.  He even says he felt "compelled to share it". 
            Where is his moral compass?

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               Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               He has none. Completely remorseless.

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   Diane Insideposted 14 years ago

   I read some of them, and they are pretty funny, could be made into a movie, something like Bridgett Jones diary.
   
   I didn't read them all, but it was kinda funny in parts. 
   
   Anyway, with the names changed and if the authors don't mind I don't see the harm.

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      Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That's what's wrong with this, the authors don't even know he's posted their private e-mails.

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   Sufidreamerposted 14 years ago

   It is morally wrong to publish them - even with names changed, there is enough information there to potentially cause distress.
   
   On a legal note, it is misuse of copyrighted material - on HP, we are the first to complain when somebody steals our work. This is no different.
   
   http://www.netmanners.com/email-etiquet … ght-myths/ has a good summary:
   
   "E-mail is a written work that once created is copyright protected by the author. This means you cannot post publicly an e-mail sent to you privately. You cannot post private e-mails to your site, to message boards or to your blog without the author’s specific permission to do so.
   
   Just because an e-mail was sent to you as a private communication does not mean you then own it and can do with it what you like. In addition, e-mail that is posted to a group of people, on a mailing list or Newsgroup does not make the e-mail available for reposting, copying, or any other use – not without the express and written consent of the author."

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      Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The thing about Crisps is that these e-mails weren't ever meant for him. He had a computer in his possession and used the content from that computer. To me, it is just so wrong.

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         Sufidreamerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         On the other hand, he has managed to get traffic to his blog - it seems that he joined up just to tell everyone this 

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            DoorMattnomoreposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            thats kinda what I was wondering about...joined six hours ago and this is all thats happend?....hasnt even come back to reply or anything
            
            Its like when my kids ask me a question and clearly dont care what the answer is as they are walking away before Ive even finished two words.  "Mommy, can I get a cookie?"  "no, we are..." and they are already in the kitchen eating cookies...

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      Jasmine JellyBabyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      totally agree with you... its copy right infringement and you shouldn't publish what's not yours

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   WryLiltposted 14 years ago

   I'd agree that if it isn't your work, it shouldn't be published without permission.
   
   But what if it is his work?
   
   Since the information on the site seems to be set out over quite a period of time, how do we know that this person isn't just trying to create a publicity stunt, similar to Lonelygirl15.
   
   Maybe I'm just used to dumbing down my emails.... but those emails don't read like anything I've ever written or been sent.

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      Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Then of course, that's an entirely different matter but the way he has gone about it, the sensationalism for drawing attention to himself is still shameless.
      
      I doubt that is what is going on here though but I don't know the Loneygirl15 story.

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         WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonelygirl15
         
         People believed her to be just a teenager who made youtube blog videos and became famous for them - turned out she was an actor and it was all fiction.

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            Karandaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So sad really. Such talent gone to waste. The same as Crisps or whoever he is. If those emails are his own he would have done well to publish them as a great piece of fiction.

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   HOLLYWOODHYPEposted 14 years ago

   Ah, the age of instant celebrity.  Unfortunately, you don't have to possess any talent at all, just too many beers and a camera phone. I feel sorry for future generations.   Barbra-Lee

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      WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ...says the person whose name suggests they merely wish to write to cater to the masses.

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    crispsposted 14 years ago

    Wow, what an amazing amount of responses. I would never have thought it would create such an intelligent argument. 
    
    I am also fascinated by the legal back anf forth. 
    
    If it helps I have secured permission from the authors to publish.  Indeed they were thrilled as long as I removed any clues to their real identity.  This I have done.
    
    But thank you all for engaging in the discussion. This is truly one of the more intelligent forums I have stumbled upon.

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    couturepopcafeposted 14 years ago

    After reading the OP, the comments and the email letters, I'm wondering why Crisps even asked the question.  He already got permission to reprint.  Seems to me like part of a brilliant marketing plan.  I went to the site to read the letters so it must be working.

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    psycheskinnerposted 14 years ago

    It seems to me to be part of a deceptive spamming campaign that has already got him banned from more than one forum.

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       couturepopcafeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       How so?

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    Disturbiaposted 14 years ago

    This just goes to show you, there are people out there who will expolit any situation.

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       Home Girlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Who else has dirty underwear?  Make it public.

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    dianamathewposted 14 years ago

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    I am Diana Mathew, an Australian Entrepreneur, ebook author (The Money Tree by Diana Mathew) and a Saving Money guru.If you have time, maybe you can visit me too:
    http://www.mymoneytree.com.au

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    Home Girlposted 14 years ago

    I did not say to do it right away...   

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    crispsposted 14 years ago

    Yes I did want people to look at the site - this is true.  But I'm not selling anything. It's free. No ads - no monitizing. I've been quite specific in that.  I have targeted some forums but the intention is just to share the story as I thought it was really amazing.
    
    But thank you all for commenting.  I really appreciate it.

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