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Republican Debate Sponsored by The Western Republican Leadership Conference

Updated on October 20, 2011

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Notably Huntsman boycotted debate. I think he is out.

They started with the argument between the Income Taxes versus and Sales Tax. I have personally watched Herman Cain flip flop on whether he believes this tax will raise taxes on the middle class and the poor. And since Cain seems to flip back and forth whether he is raising taxes on the middle class and the poor I would submit that perhaps Herman Cain doesn't understand his own tax plans.

Michelle Bachmann is for increasing taxes. A flat tax is a regressive tax on the poor and the middle class. Why would Michelle Bachmann be punting for trickle down economic theory? It is a theory that has never ever been proven.

Ron Paul admitted it was a regressive tax. And while I don't find Paul to be a viable candidate he sometimes has a lot of common sense.

Romney and Perry agree that the USA should be energy independent.

Rick Santorum kept interrupting Romney when he was speaking and broke the debate forum. It was unprofessional and spoke to Santorum's desperation. I think his campaign is over as well.

Michelle Bachmann invoke Obama's name about 8 times which meant she had more blame for the current president then actually ideas how to govern the country if elected.

The Republican nominees kept tearing into each other and interrupting each other. Rick Perry accused Mitt Romney of hiring an illegal alien. And then Perry refused to allow Mitt Romney defend himself. There were moments of mean spiritness which was rather unbecoming of the Republican Nominees. In the end Romney hired a lawn service and they had hired an illegal which upon discovering Romney let them go.

Thank God there was a National Security Question. Republicans are historically the party of National Security not Free Trade too bad everyone in the GOP doesn't remember.

In Conclusion

I watched this during many tornado watches so I kept getting emergency warnings so I am reporting on what I saw. I think the debates have reached a point of being counter productive to the Republican Party. The candidates are losing their cool and acting uncivilized to each other.

Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gringrich, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman will not receive the nomination. They are establishment candidates and this is an anti-establishment year. Herman Cain is also out of the race because he is suggesting higher flat regressive taxes on the middle class and the poor and he seems unclear as to whether he actually understands his tax plan will harm the middle class and the poor.

Perry is also slipping when he is losing his temper. No one wants a president who can't keep his cool.

Romney is the clear winner of the debates and it looks like he will get the GOP nomination. I would prefer he address issues which I think are relevant but the debates only provide for limited questions.


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    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi Max,

      I think that might have been a Freudian slip as I feel like we are tripling down on debt with the new stimulus package but I will review and edit. Thank you for pointing that out to me.

      All My Best,

      JT

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi Max,

      If you saw the debate you don't have to agree with my analysis. You can readily form your own opinion and I respect that. I get alot of criticism I am not fair to Republicans. I try to be fair to both sides and objective.

      Thanks for reading, commenting and providing feedback.

      JT

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      Max Havlick 

      6 years ago from Villa Park, Illinois

      I think the term you are looking for is not "triple down," but "trickle-down" economics, long used in a pejorative way to mock how rich people supposedly think tax breaks in their favor eventually help everyone.

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      Max Havlick 

      6 years ago from Villa Park, Illinois

      JT, while I don't necessarily assess each performance exactly as you do, your points all seem well taken, based on astute observation and fair analysis. This kind of objective approach can, I suggest, do more good for you and your readers. As you say, we expect no less from our would-be leaders.

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi Kenorv,

      DC is filled with Demcrats in name only of DINOs and Republicans in Name Only of RINOs. Ron Paul is just more open about it then the others. We have DINOs and Rinos running all over DC.

      Personally, I think we need a country filled with more free thinkers who can solve our problems.

      Thanks for reading, commenting and providing feedback.

      JT

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi WD Curry 111,

      You might be surpirsed the South may very well rise again. Florida is a very different state when it comes to voters so no telling who they will chose.

      Thanks for reading, commenting and providing feedback.

      JT

    • Kenorv profile image

      Kenorv 

      6 years ago

      The problem with Ron Paul is that he's a republican in name only. In truth, Paul is a libertarian which is why he'll never get the nomination. I have little respect for Paul for that reason. If you're a libertarian then run as a libertarian. Instead he knew that he had to become a republican just to win election to the House. He couldn't do it as a libertarian. But he has very little in common with today's republican party. The people in his home district may not have had a problem with a libertarian calling himself a republican but it's clear that primary voters don't support him that much because they know what he's really about.

      Paul needs to stop pretending to be something he's not. Run as a libertarian and let everyone see what libertarians are all about. But Paul already knows what would happen which is why he continues to masquerade as a republican.

    • WD Curry 111 profile image

      WD Curry 111 

      6 years ago from Space Coast

      Am I going to get in trouble? I am an Independent. I see no clear winner or good choice. I really enjoyed the breakdown, though. I had to laugh . . . hope I was supposed to. I like Charlie Crist, but he is done. I like Kendrick Meek, but he won't let go of a Democratic platform that doesn't fit who he is. Kendrick has personal depth, but no killer instinct. Hey, that's Florida stuff. I don't think either one would do well in the next election.

      The South doesn't have to rise again, it looks like the North is going to fall. Where is Lyndon La Rouche when you need him?

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi Junko,

      It would be an honor to serve the People of this country and I will always empower them no matter what station of life I am serving at.

      But junko, you humble me by your kind words and your compassion for your fellow man. I am humbled by those who march everyday in the OWS crowd for their right to a dignified existencce. I feel like we are all working together.

      But if I can see an opportunity to run I will take it.

      Thank you for your kind words as mine would mean nothing without your diligent work and compassion for this country everyday of the week. You sir and all those marching in OWS give me hope for a better future for all of us.

      And I would be proud to serve all of you if given the opportunity.

      Thank you,

      JT

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      junko 

      6 years ago

      You Are what the people are looking for in a representative, not politically polish, but Ms Palin wasn't Polish. Your hubs express a desire to educate and impower to people. Pray and move, or don't move.6

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi Juno,

      I am considering it. OWS was talked about in the debate. Cain bashed the OWS movement but there was a concensus that OWS was a valid movement in America.

      It would be my honor and priviledge to serve the people of the United States of America.

      Always wonderful to hear from you.

      JT

    • JT Walters profile imageAUTHOR

      JT Walters 

      6 years ago from Florida

      Hi The Rising Glory,

      You are quite articulate on the candidates. I agree with most everything you have written except with Bachmann. She is against Obama and her opponents and government spending. Doesn't she realize her pay check and the 5% pay raise she gave herself comes from the government? And Bachmann did this when Americans are jobless, homeless and without hope. Bachmann just can't be against everything but she has to have sustain policy to run on which Bachmann doesn't have. Bachmann didn't offer any solutions.

      Doesn't Bachmann understand her 5% raise was a new tax on the people of the United States but you absolutely have the right to like whomever you wish. If you like Bachmann I respect your right to do so.

      I just don't think it is wise for the GOP to keep having the candidates tearing into each other. I agree with your analysis Romney will get the nomination if no one esle steps into the ring st the last minute.

      Thanks for reading, commenting and providing feedback. I value your opinion and insight.

      BTW, CNN is rerunning the Debate right now.

      JT

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      junko 

      6 years ago

      RUN...JT Walters...RUN

    • The Rising Glory profile image

      The Rising Glory 

      6 years ago from California

      I didn't see this debate so I can't comment specifically. I do agree that Romney will probably get the nomination. I am not a big Romney fan so I am not saying that as a plug for "my guy."

      I disagree with your statement about Bachmann. Her invoking the Presidents name is more strategy then a lack of a plan. She is wanting to bring focus that she is not running against the other candidates, but to defeat Obama. While I don't think she has a chance I personally like how she handles herself.

      Ron Paul does make sense at time. The best thing he could do is speak less. When he expounds on points is where he starts showing that he is nutty in some areas. I don't think he has a chance either, although he does have some big supporters pushing him this time like the NIA.

      I agree with your review of Santorum. Although, he gets no air time so it's an all or nothing crap shoot. He might as well get out even though he is probably the most conservative, moral, and All-American!

      I would rule out Newt yet. He has a lot of baggage, but he slowly and consistently presses forward. He is by far the most intelligent. He understands the "whole" world better then any of them and if you really look into the way he would govern he actually has a mix of being and insider and an outsider. He is an insider because he was speaker and so forth, but he is an outsider as he is very pro listening to the American people. Look at his organization American Solutions.

      I don't think Cain will be able to hang onto his recent surge, although I like him a lot. What I really like about him is that he is Reagan like in that he surrounds himself with qualified people. I think this makes up for his lack of knowledge of the world outside the USA. However, I agree with some of your points about 9-9-9. While I like this plan in theory I think it would eventually be disastrous.

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