Reasons to vote for Obama,
he fulfilled his promise to close gitmo,
He was one of the best students who ever set foot at Columbia university, and graduated with a grade point average of....... Oh wait, that information is all sealed up for some reason.
But he was the first president of the Harvard law review who never actually ever wrote any law reviews.
He did manage to accomplish writing two autobiographies where he talked about his interactions with people who don't exist. and he talked about his families struggle against racism and colonialism that didn't actually happen.
He did however in his book, dreams of my father, speak of his desires to seek out and cling to Marxist professors.
He was a member of the new socialist party and hired in his cabinet open communists, socialists, and Maoists like Van Jones, Donald Berwick, Anitta Dunn, Ron Bloom, Cass Sunstein, David Axelrod, John Holdren, and Elizabeth Warren, and has the enthusiastic support of the American socialist and Communist parties. But calling him a socialist is just mean and hateful speech concocted by racist republicans.
He promised that his stimulus plans would keep unemployment under 8%, which it has....... America hasn't ever seen such affluence until now.
The fact is the last three years of economic decay were all Bush's fault and so will the next four.
He has successfully increased the deficit and government spending by astronomical proportions through special interest programs.
He singlehandedly took down Osama BinLaden and wasn't afraid to tell everyone about how he made the gutsy call, after everyone told him to do it, and anyone else in America who would have done the exact same thing.
his biggest accomplishment is the passing of Obamacare which he promised would not be a tax, even though it is one of the biggest taxhikes on the American middle class ever.
he refuses to secure our southern boarder against armed drug running murderers, and used executive privilege to cover up a disastrous gun running operation.
He told the Russian ambassador that he would sell out our missile defense shield if they would leave him alone unitl after the election.
Ah the list goes on....
Lies! All Lies I say. Vote for Obama! He is so cute......
Glad to see Cardisa denounce the idea that the massive spending by Obama was Pres. Bush II's fault.
I agree with Cardisa He is by far the cutest President America has had for a long time.
Our leader for example is such a dork!
I dont speak too much on politics because I recognise they all lie to get to where they want to be...ie hired but I gotta say the rest of the world likes the USA a lot more since Pres Obama was elected.
Indeed they do, and dread the alternative.
I get to understand he is the worst president also, but wasn't one of your presidents forced to resign due to some scandal or war or something? Weren't the Bushes worse than Obama, they started the war in 1990. As I said I am not American and don't follow politics but I was glued to my tele when the Gulf war took place.
Paul Ryan is getting a lot of that "he's so cute" vote.
None of that matters...where's Mitt's tax returns? Hmm?
Filed properly with IRS. How would you like to make your last 10 years public? Let's see how President Obama spent our tax dollars in a partial first term of spending.
We can't vote for Mitt, he abuses dogs, and threw granny over a cliff, and he doesn't like giving away free money to people! Plus I heard somewhere that his wife rides a horse for therapeutic reasons. What a beotch!
Onusonus, why don't you just talk about the issues? You're way too intelligent to be deflected by nonsense.
Hubpages isn't a place to talk about the issues...
It's a place to talk about 'your party spin here'.
Real issues with real substantial sources get ignored or shot down here.
Of which both parties are guilty. Interestingly, as a Brit, I looked for studies re Medicare, both parties and evidence. Sadly, all I could find was partisan spin. However, it does seem somewhat unbelievable that a Prez, who, let's face it, had done his upmost to try to ensure that *all* are covered by health insurance, would somehow want to now remove that for seniors. Me thinks that Romney hopes the electorate are completely gullible.
What kind of studies did you look for, exactly?
Romney and Ryan aren't trying to take away care from seniors. Nothing in their plans remotely resembles that.
Evidence? Other than Romney/Ryan and partisan rags. This should also answer your question, I was looking for independent studies, not partisan ones.
I'm asking, what kind of studies. What kind of information are you looking for? 'Studies' is kind of generic.
Evidence? Ryan's plan spells it out. Do you not think Ryan's plan is evidence for what Ryan's plan would do, or is that too 'partisan'.
Romney has a similar plan outlined on his campaign website. Less concrete than something that has been actually proposed with details, and CBO analysis, to become law.
I was looking for impartial analysis- from think tanks which do not have any affiliation to either party.
What Ryan says he'll do is not evidence, anymore than what Obama says he'll do is evidence. And of course it's too partisan, it's biased in the extreme because it's policy that HE and HIS party are proposing.
Hollie
I'm asking you, what kind of analysis are you looking for? Budgetary impact? Social impact? Something else?
I'm not asking who, I'm asking what specific information you are looking for.
I was looking for, and I think I've found (on another thread) some analysis of future spending on Medicare and whether the claims that Obama has stolen{?} $700 billion from the Medicare pot are indeed true. I was also looking for the same kinds of projections (or analysis there of) on Romney's plans re the voucher system and whether the argument put forth by the D's carried any weight.
CBO does the budgetary analysis for those changes to budgets and laws:
http://cbo.gov/publication/22085
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/41860
The trustees put out a report every year on SS and Medicare programs, including spending:
http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics- … TR2012.pdf
Sure thing. The biggest issue is the impending doom ie. the deficit. Obama's ideas are destructive to the nation. He tries to come off as a benevolent character when telling us how to spend our money, and yet he has tripled the nations debt in only three years. Thus proving that him and the rest of congress can not balance a checkbook. And this is a reflection of the desires of those who put them in place.
"The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."
-Thomas Jefferson
Obama's ideas are destructive to the nation.
This is just your opinion, Onusonus.
He has triple the nations debt in just three years. Where is your evidence? Despite being a Brit I can find multiple sources that discredit your argument, and they are non partisan.
Congress and the Prez, any Prez, CAN balance a checkbook- they just need to be free of powerful special interest groups. And, by that, I don't mean trade unions, they just fight for the rights of you and me. WHO, in the main, financially backs Presidential hopefuls? I don't believe that you would be that naive to believe that they do so for the good of your nation.
Obama hasn't tripled it, but he has added about $5 trillion over 4 years.
Yeah, anyone can balance the budget, even if they were donated to by special interest groups.
However, I only know of one candidate who has actually balanced a budget already, and that is Romney.
I suppose then that we should have a look at the meager amount of contributions the general American public has contributed to them if any at all. I think we will find that the average American donates nothing to political campaigns except through their tax dollars which by the definitions of modern day liberalism parallels benevolence.
So you and I, and the rest of America were generous enough to collectively donate $513,308 to the Obama campaign, and Romney got a big goose egg. I suppose the public has spoken.
Trade unions are historically liberal and I don't think they'll be changing any time soon. And yes they seek to usurp power just as much as the next campaign contributor.
The Senate voted unanimously to reject a 3.8 trillion dollar budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol Hill in January. That makes it pretty obvious to me who is incompetent in the executive arena.
But aside from his economic failures He snubs our greatest allies, Israel and the United Kingdom, and panders to dictators and bows to our long time enemies. In 2008 he promised to unify the nation when he has done the exact opposite by relentlessly casting blame on conservatives and job creators, and used legislation to quell against the rights of the religious.
The man's character is what makes him a detestable candidate. It is his basic ideology which obviously stems out of years of social conditioning in a hate filled church, and socialist/Marxist educators that he himself admitted to seeking out which blatantly contradict the tenants of liberty that this nations economy is based on.
How about looking at this from another angle? Are you willing? What if either party were unable to collect donations from members of the public (other than what is set aside in taxes) or billionaires (other than what is set aside in taxes) don't you think that would even out the playing field a little? They wouldn't be bought and paid for before they're even in office. They wouldn't be obligated to specific interests. Don't you think that would be a better system? Look at what's happening in your country at the moment, there are plenty who don't want Obama OR Romney. However, only the candidates with plenty of financial backing ever get to run, money talks, but that is hardly conducive to effective public representation, is it?
As a Brit, I don't know anyone, or haven't read that others in the UK feel snubbed by Obama, so I have no idea why you would say this. Romney on the other hand, went down in the UK like a lead balloon. As for Israel, I think Bibi is just playing politics- he wants war with Iran and he wants it now, so he's attempting to use the election as leverage. Far from snubbing Israel, your President has continued to back them financially, and it wasn't that long ago that the President gave Israel a number fighter jets, if my memory serves me correctly.
You may believe that Obama has been indoctrinated, but trust me when I say that indoctrination is not social conditioning, they are completely different things. You come across as someone who believes that your church, your faith, is superior to that of others. Which translates to other faiths are hate filled. That is your opinion, Onusonus, to which you are entitled, but it is not fact.
I would appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. I never said my church is better than anybody else's. But if you think that reverend Wright is an exemplary model of a Christian then so are the West Boro Baptists.
in March of 2010 he snubbed Israel's prime minister Netanyahu when he visited the white house and later told them that they should go back to the pre-1967 boarders which is completely out of the question.
He snubbed Gordon Brown, he refused to attend a Royal Society banquet in his honor, in Afghanistan he said that French president Nicolas Sarkozy is a ‘stronger friend’ than David Cameron despite the fact that Britain has had more than 300 servicemen killed in Afghanistan, not France. He presented the queen with a 150 dollar ipod with a bunch of his speeches on it, there was later an interesting video that surfaced of the Queen snubbing him. While in new York he avoided the British prim minister who was trying to speak to him about a matter of pressing urgency, and the president hustled from room to room like a rock star who was trying to avoid an annoying autograph request.
After our forefathers fought together storming the beaches at Normandy and fighting side by side throughout two of the bloodiest wars in the history of the world, a spokesman from his state department told a collection of British diplomats "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment."
Well we didn’t get the example of the Magna Carta from Ecuador, respect the Rule of Law from Uzbekistan, we didn’t get the idea of the Presumption of Innocence from Thailand or any of the other bedrock institutions and values that built America from Luxembourg or Chad or Portugal or Korea. We got them from Great Britain.
Or the fact that President of the United States of America gave to the Russians – over strenuous, almost incredulous British protests – the actual serial numbers of the US Trident missiles sold to Great Britain. KGB spies were presumably prepared to die to get this information, but Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, handed these secrets to the Russians over the protests of our closest ally so that he could get a Start Treaty with Russia to help his sagging poll numbers at home.
But then again Romney criticizes the Olympics and all credibility is down the drain.
I didn't say that's what you said- I was suggesting that you come across as...meaning that was my interpretation of your views on other religions. With respect to Gordon Brown and the Queen, I'm honestly not being obtuse, but whatever was reported in the US has not been reported in the same way here, so all I can say is this is news to me.
For me, it's not the Olympic comments that worry me about Romney. All politicians make gaffes,and it must be pretty difficult when every word you say comes under such scrutiny. It's his stance on war with Iran, in the UK we want out of these wars (as I suspect you all do in the US) To us, Romney comes across as just another Bush and Cameron is just another Blair. And it concerns many of us, because we've been there before and nine years later.....
So you are surmising that I believe my religion is superior to other religions because I don't like racist reverend Wright? Well I think you are implying that Wright's church is the standard by which all churches are measured and should I criticize his church then that must mean that I believe my church is superior to all other churches.
I'm not saying that you are saying that, i'm just saying that's what it sounds like you are implying.
Now the Iran thing is a very explosive situation and I, just as everyone else, would love to see everybody getting along. But the fact is we have a maniac ruling Iran who would love nothing more than to get a hold of some nukes to cause widespread devastation the world over so he can see the Muslim version of the apocalypse come to fruition and watch the boy come out of the well.
It's an interesting prophecy called the 12th Imam. And guess what good old Ahmadinejad put his nonthreatening nuclear power plant? It's sitting next to the well!!! Just a coincidence I'm sure.
It's kind of like how they originally wanted to name the park 51 mosque in New York after the Cordova mosque in Spain which is the pinnacle of an ancient Muslim caliphate.
Again, I'm not saying that my religion is better than anybody else's, just saying some of them want to be hateful and violent and I would rather not see the global community bow to the demands of a bunch of crazies who have severely misinterpreted the words of Mohammed. (Peace be upon him.)
I said you came across as that. I gave my explanation. I'm an atheist, Onusonus, so I wouldn't necessarily say that ANY church was the standard, but that doesn't mean that I would disrespect, or feel superior to ANY religion.
Now the Iran thing is a very explosive situation and I, just as everyone else, would love to see everybody getting along. But the fact is we have a maniac ruling Iran who would love nothing more than to get a hold of some nukes to cause widespread devastation the world over so he can see the Muslim version of the apocalypse come to fruition and watch the boy come out of the well.
This is all conjecture with no substance, we'll agree to disagree here, I think.
Again, I'm not saying that my religion is better than anybody else's, just saying some of them want to be hateful and violent and I would rather not see the global community bow to the demands of a bunch of crazies who have severely misinterpreted the words of Mohammed.
Mohammed, crazies, hateful and violent. Have a think about that last paragraph, and then tell me, that you don't feel your religion is superior.
Oh Hollie, your cherry picking skills are phenomenal. But a professional liberal would have skillfully pulled out a secretly racist undertone from the conversation and brought it to light. I however know that your secret commie objective is to promote wealth redistribution through false claims of right wing hillbilly ignorance and intolerance.
All I'm saying is that you seem to be coming across as one who believes that people such as myself like to go around believing that we are superior even though our arguments are without substance and act disrespectful to those whose views we do not agree with. And again I'm not saying that you are like that, I'm just saying that you are coming across that way.
I guess we just wait and see what happens. The country is in a pretty sorry mess so whomever...hope it gets straightened out.
"Lies! All Lies I say. Vote for Obama! He is so cute......"
LOL @ Cardisa
@Onusonus, I'm not a Liberal, honestly. You probably would be closer calling me a commie, but I'm not actually a Communist either, per se. My agenda, if you can call it that, is far from secret and I'm pretty open about the fact that I'm a Socialist and I believe in the equal distribution of wealth, not redistribution. If I believed in redistribution I'd vote for the Conservatives.
I don't think you're ignorant or a hill billie (I'm a Brit so that statement doesn't mean much to me, anyway, it's not lingo I'd use) You say that some of them want to be hateful and violent, but can't that be said about some people from other religions, or no religion at all? The problem, for me at least, is that those negative terms are used way too many times when describing the Muslim world.
@Jaxonraine,
Thanks, I'll give them a read.
Ah, so the truth comes out! If you think that conservatives are in favor of redistribution of wealth then I think you need to do a little more homework on what the definition of a conservative is in American politics. Perhaps it means something different in the UK.
Sure there are social programs in America that we would do better off without, but the majority of the public is not willing to let them go. The basic platform of American conservatives however is limited government, and free market capitalism.
And you are right that perhaps a few believe that the Muslim religion is rooted in violence, however I am peaking of a specific group of people in one country which happens to be muslim based. You yourself first brought Iran into the conversation and I was talking about the leader of that country not the entire religion. And the same goes for Obama's pastor, I believe he is a hate filled person, there is little debate on that, but this shouldn't interpret into disregard for all other religions the way that you are suggesting. For me that is a problem. I can't speak out against somone who is obviously a bad seed without you asserting that I'm throwing the baby out with the bathwater when I have done no such thing.
Hallelujah! You finally acknowledge that the various parties in different countries may not be the same as your own. I am not a Liberal, I wasn't lying.
In my country Conservatism, amongst other things, always involves trickle up economics, wealth is redistributed upwards.
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