So, we've seen this before. A sweep of the offices to the opposite direction, but then the president being reelected. It happened with Clinton, Reagan, etc.
So, will Obama be reelected despite yesterday's landslide?
no he will not get back in. Clinton and Regan did not try to circumvent the constitution, and destroy check and balance or re-distribute wealth under lies.
No. sorry, this is not what you want to hear I am sure.
even if he comes back to center he is devious in his meanings and folks are awake now. he will not stay there and act accordingly.
Not to be trusted anymore I think.
I think, actually I hope that he has changed forever they way we ask questions of any future President reguardless of his party affiliation. I hope so.
Perhaps. He needs to stick to his guns about taxes on the rich, but critical to that is actually grasping just what 'rich' is. There has been an enormous loss of wealth from the middle class of this country. Today's economic data indicates the truly well off, feel that way again and have for some months now, they are spending like the old days at Saks and Nordstroms, they feel comfortable.
Those folks have hot shot financial advisors and they've no doubt made out like bandits from the very destruction of our economy that leaves the rest of us scared to long term invest again, as in for more than a few days or weeks, and now unable to retire. So, I'd say Obama has screwed up by not already raising the capital gains tax on those who had gains of say over 500K in 2009, that boat was missed, we now have more super wealthy than ever before, so tax them to reduce the deficit and immediately mandate a 10% pay cut for all federal employees across the board and start figuring out who has to go, lay offs are in order within the fed government, like yesterday.
And super wealthy means those who make 1 million and more a year, and particularly those who have landed massive capital gains. The Dems are dunces, they haven't grasped the huge transfer of wealth, therefore their policies feel targeted at the meager remains of middle America who known damn well they are not rich, and voila', the Republicans are now in charge of the House.
Obama needs to cancel his grotesque trip to India, put down his socialistic glasses, gather regular Americans around him, and actually listen to them, and be our President, our leader.
Nope! He'll be so damaged, that he won't even run! Hillary will run in his stead, and thankfully will lose decisively because America is paying attention and is committed to saying NO to socialism!
I'm pretty sure Ross Perot elected Clinton anyway.
I do not think Obama will be reelected...In these troubling times we need someone with more experience...some one who will listen to the people and act on their behalf...like JOBS should be the first priority...and Healthcare that we all can work with.
How will having served 4 years as president not count as having experience? Frankly, I can't imagine anything that would give someone better experience for being president than being president.
Frankly, I like having some balance. I think Obama is reasonable (despite all the idiotic "Commie Commie" tripe vomited up by right-wing radio and gobbled up by intellectually lazy yokels), and I think with a House filled with folks who (if they actually do it) believe that government's job is not to provide a free ride for everyone, maybe we can fix some of the really horrid stuff that happened in the last two years without swinging all the way to the really horrid stuff that happened in the years before that.
Well that's an interesting and very valid point, b. Malin.
America had the choice of someone VERY experienced in 2008 with John McCain.
But... as you recall, we (as a nation) had finally become Bush-weary. The mood at the time was pretty much "Anyone but Bush."
We rejected experience because it was too closely tied to Bush.
Now we have just rejected a lot of people because they have a D after their name (even though some of those ousted have a lot of experience).
The current popular trend is AWAY from experience. In fact, lack of experience seems to be the #1 criterion for election (hence the tea party movement).
How 2012 will go depends a lot on how much the economy improves. If it continues out of the depths then Obama has a chance. If he is better at communicating what he's accomplished AND if he becomes more adept at giving the appearance of listening, then maybe.
But back to your point. We are, indeed in troubling times.
The most troubling to me is the very real prospect of someone even LESS experienced coming in and making things worse...
I agree with much of this, MM. If the economy improves, Obama will win re-election. If it doesn't and the republicans have a strong candidate - NOT a Tea Partier - Obama will probably lose. The only R I really like so far on a personal level is Huckabee, but his views are too far right for me. Romney is smart, but I don't know a lot about him. I wish Hil would run! I'd support her over a lot of republicans! And OMG, I hope Palin does not run!!
Hillary is almost too quiet, and I've decided it is not a leadership trait in these trying times that I respect. For certain, had she gotten the nomination, so very many Americans would have been on board, but those days are gone, and you have to wonder at these hands off strategy with Bill out there. I don't know, maybe, but Bill Clinton has not made me feel inclined to go that direction again, and in this instance, silence is in no way Golden, instead, it is more along the lines of 'Olden' as in she can't handle the situation, and fact is her health care agenda wasn't popular either, well priced and placed bribes might have given her a different outcome, so kudos to HIllary for not strong-arming her health care bill.
There will be a viable centrist Republican candidate for President in 2012, I just don't doubt that. All this talk about how Obama should change his interaction with we the People, the American people, smacks of fraudulently projecting who he actually is, and that, as well as his actions/words of late, is at odds with who he projected himself to be in the election of 2008 -- this mid-term shows that clearly.
I agree, Palin is not the answer, but she has shown herself to be much more than the liberal media would have had us all perceive, and perhaps she will be most effective as a supporter of an authentic next President of the USA, one without a hidden agenda that is detrimental to the principles upon which this country was founded and thrived up until so very recently.
Not reviewing this post, need to fry up some round steak and potatoes, as I don't have a cook or a maid/cook or a budget for eating out, etc...........
With the little I know of American politics and how hard Americans are on their presidents... and with the level of ever increasing Obama-bashing, quite frankly I'll be appalled if He gets re-elected...
It's easier to blame our president wildly and blindly than do any wide reading or deep thinking. We did it with Bush, now we're doing it to Obama. We like our problems simple and our solutions quick and effortless over here.
(Nice to see you on the forums. A writer of your calibre will benefit from the exposure.)
If he continues the way is has been no.
But I think if he really tries to work together, and show true bi-prartisan ship and we see a change, then yes it is possible for him to be re-elected.
Definitely an interesting question. I'm personally inclined to think he will be, because Republicans will be less able to blame Democrats for all Washington's shortcomings now that they have the House and filibuster power in the Senate again.
Progressives are already restless - I think it's telling that a bunch of the conservative Blue Dog Democrats got ousted this election while more progressive Dems like Kucinich sailed through safe and sound. We've been depressed by the degree to which Obama is willing to throw us under the bus in his futile pursuit of bipartisanship, but I think we'll get riled back up again by the prospect of seeing Republican policies put into action again, especially so soon after the extended nightmare of Bush II.
Also, the Republicans can only be the party of NO for so long before it starts irritating moderates and independents. People want to see stuff get done, not get lost in endless pointless political wrangling.
It's a meaningless question, no offense intended. In 2012, people will select between two serious candidates (with a handful of meaningless candidates for fun).
Will Obama get a second term? Tell me who he's running against.
well he does have a considerable advantage, since people know who he is already, and he has his party's full financial backing. therefore, all he has to do is define his opponent before they can get a chance to define themselves. just look back at how bush's reelection campaign was all about defining john kerry as a flip flopper before he even got a chance to establish himself in the public's eyes.
don't get me wrong, there's always a possibility he won't get reelected. just that it's proven statistically that an incumbent candidate will ALWAYS have the advantage in an election.
It is a hard one to call. Clinton won re-election after suffering similarly devastating blows in the 1994 mid-terms, and George W. won a second term handily despite the unpopularity of the Iraq war.
It all comes down to jobs and the economy....if the American people feel they are better off in 2012 than they are now, Obama gets a second shot. If not, he'll be an embarrassing footnote in Presidential history....
I thought it ironic that the day before election day I received a notice from my health insurance... Premiums are up 30 bucks a month.
Pretty sure this was not supposed to happen and certainly NOT what I voted for.
Honestly, I don't think he'll get re-elected. I think the independents are leaning to the right now and they will sway the election.
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