If you expected Hillary to say anything at all about the embassy attack .....were you all that dissappointed when she pulled her usual Class President mode of talking alot and saying absolutely nothing ?
Interesting, I was watching Steve Colbert acting like she laid the smack down on the Republicans. I rather think she got her backside handed to her. However she remained in a lecturing mood the entire time. The five rules of dodge ball: dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.
omg! I am laughing so hard! I couldn't believe how well she practiced getting *choked up* and I was waiting for her to follow the lead of her boss and wipe a tear from her eye! so phoney! What strikes me is the questions that were asked of her! They seem to care more about why Ms. Rice was on the talk shows than what information did she know and when did she know it? How could she not see the cables? What is up with her staff?
Hillary disappoints me, just by being Hillary......She's just another power-hungry politician, who is bound and determined to make her mark in History, so that some of the country will find her to be as marvelous as she thinks she is.......I didn't expect anything REAL and/or HONEST from her about the Benghazi attack........after all, she's been married to Bill for a longtime.
Benghazi is a horrible tragedy. It should rest on the shoulders of Clinton. I think that she took that as best a politician could. I also think that she should not have addressed particulars in that setting. We are talking security, for sure.
Just because I am on the other side of the political spectrum does not mean I just attack and hate all persons liberal.
Well stated. Obviously some things can not be discussed publicly in the interest of National Security...I do believe some covert mission was taking place there, I do not believe as many do that it was anything widely different than what our country is and has always done...
I think it will be interesting to see her and the Pres on 60 minutes tonight! A shared interview or is it a "blackmail-gotcha moment" for her? There is a rumor she is writing a tell all book about how the Pres disrespected her and Bill. I guess, we have to wait and see
I would not have wanted to be sitting in that chair she was sitting in. She did a far better job than I would have in speaking for all that time and really saying nothing. I guess that is a learned skill necessary to survive in politics.
Her biggest mistake was the one time she lost her cool and said the 4 dead Americans really didn't matter. Most of the questions coming her way were softballs, mixed with a few fastballs.
But be prepared, we will be seeing much more of Hillary who now has her eye on the crown on Obama's head. The media is already falling in love with her, just as they fell in love with Obama.
They now plan on shaping history by having the first woman president follow the first black president for this once great Nation. Chris Matthews will again feel than tingle up his spine when she stands before us and gives the inaugural address.
I honestly don't see anyone waiting in the wings who could beat her in an election if she decides to run. The entire Bill Clinton fan club will be on her side, along with the media, and that is a winning combination.
Of course , everyone knew she would not take resposibility for the dead Americans just like "fast and furious", this govt will stall and stall until it is swept under the rug. After all hillary learned from the best Mr( "it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.) Clinton. I wonder if she (Monica) ever cleaned that stain off of her dress ? Well she did what the obama administration always does when facing a scandal .... make an excuse ... she fell and bumped her head " The Imacculate Cuncussion" which gave them enough time to come up with all thhe excuses they wanted .. what really got me was how she became indignant " How dare you think I was responsible for these deaths, just because I said I was responsible ,doesn't mean I was responsible" If the republicans had any wuevo's they would have asked tougher questions , but to have 5 minutes to question this fiasco means that they don't want to know either. (although the democratic senate controlled the proceeding). So more Americans killed .. nothing happens .. terrorism goes on .. more Americans killed ... Obama wants to talk with terrorists with policy of appeasement... Egyptian president calls Americans Dogs and we send him Bilions of Dollars and jet fighters...
Something is wrong here .... Very wrong,.......
She handed them their butts, because they were too busy making speeches. Had just one of them acted like a prosecutor with probing questions, we might have learned at least some of what happened.
Hillary was right...four Americans are dead, including an Ambassador, and it does not matter to the ruling political class in Washington.
And that's why they pay absolutely no attention to people like you or me and what we want.
Very sad state of affairs for this once great nation. I hope people will come together to reinstate it through education and cooperation.
She kept saying we have to find a way to keep these things from happening in the future, so the why does matter, but when you are covering for an administration that is amidst a coverup then you have to say that.
The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves.
Four of them asked her almost the same identical question.
Did they not talk to each other before the hearing?
They need to be way smarter than this.
That's the second time I have heard that somehow the Republicans are at fault, does anyone care to explain that?
They blew it. All congressional hearings are invitations for preening, showboating, and not-a-question-but-a-comment speeches. The grilling of Hillary Clinton was worse: a repetitive series of losing rematches, of Republicans asking questions that had been asked and answered and asked and answered. They coaxed one new piece of information from her, but they didn’t seem to notice, as their press offices once again tried to shame her for ever suggesting that the Benghazi attack grew out of protests against an anti-Islam video.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ … hance.html
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/gop-sw … -hearings/
And if those sources are too "left"
http://video.foxnews.com/v/211714255900 … h-clinton/
What questions or answers were is not what I thought you meant. My mistake. I did see where someone on these threads said that this entire Benghazi incident was the republicans fault.
I expected the answers to be what they were except the "At this point what does it matter why they were killed" answer. That just shows the level of ineptitude of this entire administration.
Thought you may want to take a peak at the number of American deaths on the GOP's watch before you sling any more mud on this Administaration, that has drawn down the illegal war since he entered office. I care deeply about these 4 lives, as well as the 1000's lost in the illegal war..If the Republicans had any real questions, they did not ask them, did they? No, they used their time to show boat for their base and repeat the same things over an over ad nausem like a broken record of a FOX news report. Hillary took blame, as she should, this was on her watch and her responsibility...What do you think happened there? Do you think we were maybe giving them weapons like Reagan did to Iran in order to free hostages...Do you think we had illegal detainments as W's Guatanamo? Or do you just want to believe Obama ordered Americans killed? What are your thoughts?
You are talking about military actions and deaths are expected. This Ambassador had no expectation of death and even less expectation that his own President was not concerned for his safety. It is beyond me how you can equate the two, actually no it isn't!
Drone Strikes under the Bush Administration: 52
Drone Strikes under the Obama Administration: 298
More comfortable with full boots on the ground invasions paid for by China?
An you source this? Also I believe that Bush predominantly targeted Al Qaeda, whereas obama is using drone attacks on various targets. I think the reason for the drone attacks were justified by 9/11 and Al Qaeda was perceived as an imminent threat. Now it seems instead of Congress declaring war on a country they can just drone attack whoever they want.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/ … JM20130124
Reuters) - European countries urged their nationals to leave the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi on Thursday, with Britain citing a "specific and imminent" threat to Westerners days after a deadly attack by Islamist militants in neighboring Algeria.
Interesting article and update as to Benghazi, for all who may interested.
No...I'd be more comfortable with the "Peace President" not killing so many civilians.
I'm no war monger myself, but all for mitigation of carnage...the drone program is not perfect, but nothing is, is it?
Peace is perfect.
Respect is perfect.
Truth is perfect.
The Administration is not providing any of these.
I have never seen an Administration who did...People are not perfect...
this is the most corrupt administration in history .. where is the transparency?
why no one was ever prosecuted for the financial collapse , because they work for the democrats .
Obama is owned by the democratic Liberal left wing.
end of story
I obviously disagree, and I am confused as to why Bush and Cheney were never prosecuted...
"On Friday in Kuala Lumpur in the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere on Earth, Bush, former vice president Dick Cheney, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and five of their legal advisors were found guilty of war crimes for torture, cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of prisoners who suffered at the hands of U.S. Soldiers and contractors in Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, and Iraq. The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission convened a five-panel tribunal, and after a week-long trial delivered the unanimous guilty verdicts with full transcripts of witness statements, charges, and other materials being sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, the United Nations and the Security Council. The Commission is also requesting that the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee, Addington, and Haynes be entered and added to the Commission’s Register of War Criminals for the public record."
*confused look on my face* What is funny about torture?...
Okay then, if you laugh at torture I guess no crimes were committed in your mind....I actually would like to know what has been done about this to date, I may have voted for Obama but if he practices the same I would be the first to scream foul! I am already disturbed Obama himself has not went after the previous Administration for war crimes.
Its my way of expressing how unimportant torture of terrorists is to me. Pouring water on their faces is the least that should be done. If Obama is doing this then I support him in his effort.
There was a lot more than "pouring water on faces" going on, read the article, google the search and read many sources....Torture does not represent the way we do business.
So then Obama should be prosecuted for war crimes , he is killing people in Afganistan and pakistan ,not to mention africa with drone strikes ..! without any kind of reasons other than they are enemys of the state ..?
please have a clue.
So you agree Bush, Cheney and their henchmen are guilty of war crimes? You can't unring that bell, it's all or nothing.
And since when have other countries ever been on our side in anything we do whether in the name of freedom or in the name of war? What they have done (like Hillary says) is in the past, it doesn't ,matter nanymore !~! Right . Liberals still bring up Bush , you have lost the intial question , stay on point, but thats what liberal leftys do .. DISTRACT from the truth.
I'm sorry, how am I distacting? A conversation deepens as it goes, more facts come out, people learn more from one another and of course from history. So are you just one of those right wingers crying wolf who still backs up W, or do you want to have a real conversation? There is nothing distaractionary about the whole truth, it's distractionary when a right wing comes out against something they were for through 8 yrs of a Republican President. So what are you, distactor and blamer or someone who wants to have a real open discussion about our military operations?
lets talk about $ dead patriots that Hillary and obama denied help for .
lets talk about the present not bush ,
Bush is gone for about 5 years now lets stick to the topic ..
4 dead americans that the obama administration left to die and is now trying to cover up .
tell me if they matter!
if it was your sons would they matter then ??
Well let's see here. What about President Bush, Dick Chenny Ms Condy Rice and Rumsfeld charged for war crimes? We killed Osama for his attacks on us. We say we are trying to help other countries with peace?
We can't even get along ourselves with each other in our own country!
Look what happened from one man's attempt to seek answers or retribution. There are classified things that when you really observe what is not being said. You would have grey hair!
I don't belong to any one political party affiliation. thank you very much. This is how I choose
to let my voice be heard. This after all is the GOP new way. Mr. Jindal from New Orleans called the
GOP the part of stupid. And the Dems are still the assests they always been.
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