Hey guys! We may be having two more wars!

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   Barefootfaeposted 11 years ago

   How they gonna get paid for hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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      Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Why not just charge it like Bush did!

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         They can do that with a straight face and look you in the eye?
         After years and years and years and years of hearing how Bush was supposed to have done that?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            haha
            anything the great wise Obama does is not only okay, but brilliant!
              dontcha know??!   He does all those things, yes, with a straight face.   But I have noticed that he quite often does NOT look ya in the eye.  Very telling.    Hillary Clinton does the same thing, only better (the avoidance of eye contact).   Wonder which one learned it from  the other.........

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            PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Who are "they"?

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               Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Anyone who ranted about military actions previous to this administration but will allow anything to happen in this one without a peep.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  And who would that be?  I have yet to hear anyone I know who opposed the invasion of Iraq say that they currently support the invasion of any other country.  So, who?

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                     Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Who opposed Iraq?
                     Where are they now?

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                        PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        You're the one who brought it up, so you tell me.

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                           Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           I love it.
                           Got amnesia do you kitty kat?
                           
                           Iraq happens and it's wars not paid for.
                           There has already been someone on this thread try to shift the conversation around to Romney.
                           I am talking about why was it a big deal for George Bush to get into action......and theoretically not pay for it....but we now have this administration sabre rattling towards Iran and Syria and I have not seen one LETTER in opposition from any journalists or politicians on the same side of the aisle who scram about the cost every time you money budgets or money and get them with a hundred yards of a microphone..
                           Now please stop insulting my intelligence by pretending you have never seen or heard or maybe even participated in such activities.

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                              PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              LOL, I must have missed something.  Is Obama advocating invading a country? 
                              
                              You're the one who said "they can do that with a straight face and look you in the eye?" in response to "Why not just charge it like Bush did!"
                              
                              I asked you, and I'll as you again, who are "they"?  Are "they" real, or just a figment of your imagination?

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                                 Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 They are the media and politicians and they have always said two unfunded wars without always using the term invasion.
                                 You know that but you like to play circular games and pretend you never heard of it.
                                 
                                 Apparently you are one who will have no trouble with him going to war..he being who he is and all.

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                                    PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    I am asking you to specifically say who opposed the invasion of Iraq and is now advocating invading another country, without funding it.
                                    
                                    If "they" exist (media and politicians, as you say), then you should be able to name them.  I have been busy working long hours the last few days, so I have not read or heard about "them," but apparently you have. 
                                    
                                    And, no, I opposed the invasion of Iraq, supported the invasion of Afghanistan (but not the extended length of time we stayed), and would oppose the invasion of Iran or Syria.  As for drones, I don't like Obama's policy on drones.

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                                       Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       L I S T E N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                       
                                       I didn't say they opposed it I sad they griped about unpayed wars.
                                       
                                       G E T   I T ?

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                                          PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                          Okay, then who griped about unpaid wars and is now advocating an unpaid war?
                                          
                                          I'm just trying to understand.

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                                             Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                             once again................
                                             
                                             I didn't say they were advocating I sad they wouldn't say crap about it.
                                             And I'm right.
                                             And John McCain will probably back YOU up.

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                                                PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                "Anyone who ranted about military actions previous to this administration but will allow anything to happen in this one without a peep."
                                                
                                                What did you mean when you wrote that?  You like to complain about "they," "them," and "anyone," but when pressed, you can't even say who "they" are.

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                                                   Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                   Let me ask you a question.........
                                                   
                                                   Do you ever actually discuss the issue or just use the tactic of trying to pick sentences apart.
                                                   
                                                   I MADE A FRIGGIN MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                   
                                                   The premise of this thread remains sound. And you damn well know it.

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                                                      PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                      What the hell IS the premise of this thread?  That's what I've been trying to figure out, but since even you can't explain it, then perhaps the premise is rather flimsy, eh?  Maybe that's what I'm trying to show you.  [wink]

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                                                   Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                   So you support an action if taken?
                                                   Apparently so because you don't like that I am questioning it.

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                                                      PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                      I don't even know who is talking about taking an "action" since you've never said or even provided any evidence that "having two more wars" is being seriously discussed. 
                                                      
                                                      But, no, I thought I already said I would not support an invasion of either Syria or Iran.

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                                                         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Thank you.
                                                         Opinion noted.

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                                 sabrebIadeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 Obama doesn't have to invade a country!
                                 He has his flying killer robot assassins!
                                 At 4.3 million a pop, General Atomics (who builds them and sounds like a bad 1950's sci fi corporation who also builds shrink rays) should be almost orgasmic at the thought of him sending wave after wave of flying death at our foes.

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                                    PrettyPantherposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    The dislike of Obama's use of drones is one thing some liberals, conservatives, and libertarians can agree on.

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                        junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        156 members of Congress voted against Iraq in 2002 (23 Senators and 133 Representatives). Of those 156 members, there were 147 Democrats, 7 Republicans, and 2 Independents. Those 147 Democrats tend to be progressives (as in the farthest to the left). They for the most part, like Progressive citizens, oppose war period. They opposed Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, as well as all the drones flying over half of the world, and they will oppose wars with Iran, Syria, or anybody else, absent an extremely good reason.
                        
                        You seem to be accusing people of flip-flopping, though, without any actual flip-flopping identified it's a bit of a hollow claim. And considering it is people over on the right who don't seem to oppose war for ANY reason I don't know why you're complaining about the side that does at least have some opposition.

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            Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I was being facetious! I am against any war, since it brings us nothing but our kids home in body bags and debts and the treat against us is minute. I know they are flinging around the words, but you can't blame this one on Obama. He is trying to tone down Israel who is biting at the bit, to start a war. Brings to mind the old saying "lose lips sink ships"!
            
            And Bush did do it!

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               Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Oh well I was aware you can't blame Obama.
               Why would anyone try and do that?
               
               As for Israel what do you do when the little guy with the WalMart jacket in Iran says he is going to vaporize you once they get their nuke?

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                  Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You keep doing what you are doing! You use diplomacy and sanctions. And you let them keep talking because eventually their own people will drag them down, because I really don't think people as smart and educated as Iranians do not realize an attack would probably mean the Ancient land of Persia would wind up being a glass bowl.

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                     Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     They tried a couple years ago and what happened?

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                        Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        who tried what?

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                           retief2000posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           A revolt among the Iranian people was violently put down by the Revolutionary Guard and the Iranian government.  It was in some of the papers.

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                              Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              There was a famous video where a girl gets shot as she is making it.

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                                 retief2000posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 It can't be famous unless it was on MSNBC, Colbert or The Daily Show.

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                                    Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Oh right. i keep forgetting how out of touch I am. They ain't gonna be showing the truth.

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                                    Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Actually at the time I was working with Iranian refugees relocating to the US and living overseas so yes, I am familiar with what happened. I am sure fighting two wars probably kept our government sane enough not to stick their nose into another war front, so I don't think avoiding a needles war is squandering an opportunity. And if you remember in the Post Bush Era we would not have gotten much support from anyone on this planet.

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                                       retief2000posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       There are many more courses of action available to a resourceful government than war.  The green revolution in Iran was an opportunity to eliminate a hostile government, gain more freedom for another country's people and all without firing a shot, squandered by Obama.  Instead, the inept Obama helps kill Egyptians to install the Muslim Brotherhood, another hostile government.

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                                          Justsilvieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                          You seem to have a plan... Why not join the Diplomatic Corp they need all the help they can get!

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                                             retief2000posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                             The Foreign Service is a dangerous place these days - remember Benghazi.

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         Education Answerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Why not print it, like Obama does?

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         retief2000posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Really?  GWB is the sole culprit? Congress has authorized and re-authorized funding for the Iraq and Afghan wars since 2001 but they bare no responsibility, even when the Democrats held the reins? Even while Obama has been POTUS?  Even while all other aspects of government has run up 5 times the debt of the Bush years?  Really? 
         
         Aren't we supposed to be enjoying the vast sums of money freed up by the end of the Iraq war?  Isn't that how we are to pay for the new green economy?  Isn't that what Obama has promised?  Really, GWB is the villain here.
         
         A war with Iran is inevitable and not because Mitt Romney, whoever he is, wants it.  War with Iran will come for two reasons. One, the squandered opportunity that was Iran's brief "green" revolution in 2009/10, a genuine people's revolt that Obama ignored.  Two, the direction mapped out by the Iranian government since 1979.

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            Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I agree and you have explained better than I can what this thread is about.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So this is a thread blaming the Obama administration for two wars that he has actually not started yet...
      
      You guys are very funny.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Actually it's not blaming...
         It's trying to see how many will allow him to do it without raising so much as a tiny finger against it.
         Which will be most of them. Indoctrination.

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            Cody Hodge5posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It depends, are we going to declare "mission accomplished" seven years before the war actually ends?

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   Barefootfaeposted 11 years ago

   The places I'm hearing are Iran and Syria.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't heard anything. I do know that many, many politicians on the right want to go to war with Iran. Romney certainly seemed to want to.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         But it wouldn't be Romney doing it.
         How we gonna pay for it?

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            whoisitposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            They will find a way to blame Bush and the lapdogs will believe it.

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               Education Answerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               whoisit,
               
               Could this be a war for oil?  That's what Bush was blamed for, among countless other things. . .  How is the intelligence?  Is Obama lying about our intelligence?  Isn't that what liberals accuse Bush of doing?

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   Justsilvieposted 11 years ago

   And why are these forums full of Trolls? Half the people on here have never written a hub... don't you all have friends or anyone else to play with?

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