Al Gore----Stan-up comedian

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   Barefootfaeposted 12 years ago

   http://blog.algore.com/2013/03/time_has … n_tax.html
   
   Time has come for a carbon tax according to the Clown Prince of the Environment.
   Who wants to enrich Al? Raise your hands!

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      bBereanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Don't tell Al we're all carbon based...he'll want to tax our bodies for their carbon content too! 
      
      Good thing he sold his network to Al-Jazeera, because I imagine the fine, I mean tax, on Gore's "carbon footprint" should be substantial.

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      BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Al-Jazeera does.

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      someonewhoknowsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      AL GORE SPEAKING IN REVERSE - from sat nite live skit
      If,you want to know what he's saying during his forward speech simply copy & reverse the recording at this link - http://youtu.be/Ri0tOoGvpkY

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      They have been successfully implemented in several countries, I do think it's important that the legislation specifically states where all funding will go (usually all taxes raised go to repairing ecological damage and funding research for more efficient or renewable technology

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      Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ah more failed green programs for political gain.
      Lets see,
      -electric car? A bigger polluter than gas-powered vehicles.
      -cloth shopping bags? Better wash them regularly, they’re bacteria hotels. Oh wait, washing them in a machine wastes water & energy. Use rainwater and wash by hand instead. Biodegradable detergent only of course.
      -Your government-approved, mercury-laden CFLs? Not only a disposal hazard, we’re now told they’re also a cancer risk. Oopsie.
      - Into that whole “Earth Hour”? hope you didn't burn any candles. One paraffin candle emits as much CO2 as a forty-watt light bulb. We all want a cleaner environment. But as with everything, real advancements won’t come from smug liberals & clueless government bureaucrats. They’ll come from the profit-motivated private sector.
      
      How is that Solyndra thing working out Mr. Prez?
      
      

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         Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hmmm. Seems to me that the profit-motivated private sector is why we're in this mess.  They're always trying to make their profits higher. And they leave quite a mess behind them - kind of like a huge dog with diarrhea. And with our government owned by large corporations, it seems that the difference between big government and big business is diminishing by the day.
         
         I'd say it's all up to the individual. If we keep our needs within reasonable limits and don't act in a wasteful manner, that helps. If we refuse to buy crap just because it's advertised to us in a clever way, that helps.  If we support what we know is good, such as buying from local farmers and ranchers, that helps. If we buy from corporations that are not crooked and wasteful, that helps. And if we show our government that we want change, that helps.  Yep. I think it's up to the individual.
         
         I can't tell from your post whether you're pro- or anti- change for a clean environment. Do you think it's all a bad joke? Or do you feel bad because so many attempts for change have ended up as they have? I just hear so much bitterness. It made me sad to think you're so feeling so bitter.

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            Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Actually the reason we are in a mess is because people keep buying into the idea that government can solve our problems. Libs are always coming up with new ways to take money from wealth producers and give it to their self proclaimed elites when they have only proven their ability to invest our money in bad ideas.
            It's the same thing as when they tax us to supplement corn farmers, and when we end up with high fructose corn syrup in everything because of the surplus they created, they tax us again to make the soft drinks more expensive in order to pretend like they care about our health.
            
            I'll say that again. The same government that taxes us around 10 billion dollars every year to create an artificially low cost to corn syrup, taxes us again to make the soda more expensive!
            
            So you will have to pardon me if I am a tad skeptical when anybody from this band of robbers we call the government comes up with another bogus idea to take away our hard earned money. It's far from sticking ones head in the sand, actually it's quite the opposite.

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               Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I see it's all the "libs" fault. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that you were on a rant - and a bigoted rant, at that.
               
               You need to look into what's really happening. A lot of those taxes - around half of all discretionary spending of our tax money - goes to the Pentagon to keep several key big businesses big. It's called the "military industrial complex". You know, the one that Eisenhower warned us about?
               
               The middle class is rapidly becoming the lower class, while the so-called "wealth producers" are gathering more wealth and keeping it in their own pockets. This is not the way to run a country. 
               
               As for the corn subsidy - corn is still being heavily subsidized because large corporations are buying up a great deal of land and taking advantage of the subsidies that were meant for small family farmers. And the high fructose corn syrup is being sold by Coke, Pepsi and the processed food industries, not the government. It was invented in Japan, not the U.S.
               
               Go I will now sign off and you can rant all you want to without further response from me.

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                  Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Bigot? I guess the facts are a little too overwhelming for you. Have a nice day.
                  

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                     Barefootfaeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     

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                        Zelkiiroposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Because it's just silly to want to keep track of who owns extremely deadly weaponry, right?

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                        Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        The funny thing is it goes both ways, it's just as hypocritical to insist on a voter registry and dismiss a gun registry as it is to do the opposite

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                           wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           voter registry intent = prove you are legal to vote before doing so
                           
                           gun background check = prove you are legal to buy one before doing so.
                           
                           gun registry of all guns = I want a record so when I finally get permission to confiscate guns I know where to go to get them all.

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                     Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Onusonus, a friend asked me to come back and see what you had written. It looks like you really burst the dam on your reply. As for facts, I didn't call you a racist; I said that your rant was bigoted. However, it does look like I must have hit a nerve. Sorry 'bout that.
                     
                     Any time someone insists that it's all the "other side's" (in this case the liberals) fault, that's an attitude lacking in facts. So please don't accuse me of not being able to handle facts. You haven't given any facts yet. You've just ranted more and more emphatically. Until in your last post, the meme you chose looks like you might have actually been shouting.
                     
                     Let's look at balance in our "blame game", as GW labeled it.

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                        Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Bigot, racist, whatever. It's just a common method liberals use to polarize. So far you have been attacking my character every step of the way. According to you I am a bitter, ranting, bigot, all because I am opposed to government waste in the name of environmentalism.
                        It is hypocritical on your part to attack the character of those who oppose your way of thinking while neglecting to put into check the character flaws in those who support you, and on this thread imparticular.
                        I realize that when people oppose your way of thinking the first defence is to characterize your opponent as an angry, mean person, but if you actually go back and read what I said you will see that I pointed out plenty of facts that support my conclusions, and questioning the motives and outcomes of failed politicial impositions on our basic freedoms in my oppinion is just common sense.

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                           Healthy Pursuitsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           I think it's obvious that we won't agree.
                           
                           I wrote you in the first place because you were attacking the character of a whole group of people, and in a very stringent and unkind manner with a lot of negative emotion and very little apparent thought.
                           
                           I also think it's hypocritical of someone to blame "the other side" while not checking "the character flaws in those who support you". However, I see that in your approach.
                           
                           So you have a nice day. I'm not going to continue this fruitless back and forth.  If you enjoy arguing and insulting people, go ahead. You now have a clear path without responses from me.

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                              Barefootfaeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              You know what....I'm a libertarian/conservative. I get those kind of attacks all the time becasue i insist to continue breathing air on this planet.
                              Then i get told to suck it up if I complain about it.
                              Suck it up.

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                                 Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I'm not sure anyone was referring to you....

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                                    Barefootfaeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    They weren't. I was taking up for him.
                                    It's called character.

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                                       Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Oh, please enlighten me......

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                                          Barefootfaeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          Not sure it's possible Cody...

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                                             Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                             I know, I could never be on the same level as someone who posts misleading and inflammatory statements and memes all day.

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                                                BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                I'd say you are at that level possibly even exceeding it.

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                                                   Barefootfaeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                   No....Cody has been indoctrinated to the level that all those talking points are Gospel....

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                                                      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                      You literally do little more than regurgitate talking points, usually directly from someone else's image or picture, the hypocrisy is astounding.

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                                                      Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                      What talking points? Is it really that hard to see through the propaganda that so many people spew on these boards?

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                                                   Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                   Says the troll.....

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                                                      BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Don't have anything else?

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                                                         Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Don't really need anything else.
                                                         
                                                         It's hard to take someone seriously when they don't even know how we elect members of Congress.

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                                                            BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Votes elect members of congress, why don't you know that?

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                                                               Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                               Hey, very good, you learned something from our discussion yesterday

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                                                                  BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                                  Sorry man, you have nothing to teach.

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                                                                     Cody Hodge5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                                     Hey great comeback.....as always, it was great talking to you

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                                                                        BuckyGoldsteinposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                                                        Wish I could say the same but alas....

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                              Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              So the one who is on the attack now plays the victim. The common trait of a bully. You approached me, you attacked my character, and then you meekly storm off, twice. All the while accusing me of being an unkind, thoughtless, negative, bitter, ranting, bigot. But I'm the aggressive one. Give me a break.

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   Barefootfaeposted 12 years ago

   Now......should they institute a carbon tax where do we suppose it will actually go?
   Because we all know tax revenue in America goes anywhere but where we were told it would.

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      bBereanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It seems obvous tax dollars extracted under the guise of a carbon tax would go straight into Obama's big green toilet, to be flushed with all those other tax dollars.

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   Zelkiiroposted 12 years ago

   ITT: Conservatives stick their heads in the sand while the earth's oil supply dwindles to swift nothingness.

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      Marquisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That makes no kind of sense. Why do you always leave comments that make no sense?

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         Zelkiiroposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Coal and oil are nonrenewable resources. We are using said nonrenewable resources. Logic dictates that, sooner or later, when you pump hundreds of thousands of tons of the stuff every day, you're going to run out of it very quickly.

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   Barefootfaeposted 12 years ago

   

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      CFACT.org ... funded by Exxon Mobil how reliable a source you have
      
      How about you actually study the research and read the reports rather than blindly leaping at every catchphrase you see.
      
      Oh btw that research they are quoting has been shown up in public several times, even it's publisher admitted it was irrelevant, fossil fuel funded research made a very specific chart they chose 97-98 because globally it was the hottest year in living memory, the hottest on record in fact, after which the temperature should have dropped significantly and never reached that high again in our lifetime, instead as you can see on the chart it got up to and past that several times, that is what global warming does, creates extreme weather cycles.

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   Cody Hodge5posted 12 years ago

   There is a Karl Pilkington meme floating about on the Internet that I REALLLLY want to use to sum this thread up.....

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   Onusonusposted 12 years ago

   Ah, more of your tax dollars flushed down the eco-toilet.
   http://cnsnews.com/blog/joe-schoffstall … n-stimulus

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      Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Except that almost all the money was returned and 300 people had work for four more years which if you add up the cost of unemployment actually means a big saving. That is why you shouldn't get your news from right wing start ups.

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         Clint Wardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm not sure the money was returned sounds like they still have it. They still have some plants open it may be used yet.
         
         "The company also said Friday it has not yet used any of the $10.2 million in tax credits awarded as part of the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act because sufficient profits are required to use them."

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         Onusonusposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Still a big waste of money. We'll see if the money gets returned. It's all part of Obamas Cloward Piven Strategy.

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   Beth37posted 12 years ago

   *d
   
   Sorry, that was driving me crazy.

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