The intentional dumbing of our children and future.

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   Josakposted 10 years ago

   
   Choice qoute from the test given to these children: "Dinosaurs lived with people", True of False, apparently the correct answer is True. And we wonder why this country is not doing very well.

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      gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Any educational system which approves and teaches that, should be TOTALLY dismantled.   Every intelligent person KNOWS that dinosaurs were extinct before the advent of humankind.  Come on now.   I cannot believe that schools teach this. I DOUBT it!  Some child who was NOT attentive in class answered the question incorrectly.  Most children know that dinosaurs NEVER lived with humankind.   The premise that dinosaurs lived with humankind is totally fictional and is the subject of television shows and movies, not reality.

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         Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         This is a genuine event at a Christian school which teaches such idiocy. If you look at the top you can see the student got an A+ for this test.
         
         http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

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            gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Most Christian schools should be dismantled, it is apparent that children are being mislead and misinformed.   Typical parochial schools are backwards and teach children atavistic methodology which in turn wil severely retard them in this postmodern age.   American children in such schools are NO BETTER than those in the WORST PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  Both are damned for future failure and penury so to speak.  In essence, both are LEFT WAY BEHIND!
            
            We also need INTELLIGENT, CRITICALLY THINKING teachers.  There are plenty of teachers who are simply UNQUALIFIED to teach a cat, let alone our precious children.   There need to be MORE STRINGENT qualifications for teachers in America.   There are TOO MANY unqualified and inept teachers out there!

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            CHRIS57posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            This is all rubbish.
            There were no dinosaurs mentioned in the bible. So dinosaurs never existed. This is all an invention of Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg.
            :-)

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               gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               HA HA HA, funny!

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                  tirelesstravelerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Bible does say Leviathan aka sea monsters in 6 places. One verse even says that Leviathan plays among the ships.

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                     CHRIS57posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     "Ships" were nutshells in those days. Any larger whale could easily step in for monster. However whales were distingushed animals in the bible. So may be sharks, crocodiles.. would do??
                     Anyways, don´t take this comment too seriously. What is of much more concern is the fact that this kind of junk is taught in schools. Unbelievable.

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      Onusonusposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Pretty silly stuff. What's even more of a joke is what the NEA has done to public education. Teachers unions are a thousand times scarier than that isolated example you have presented. Perhaps, like NAZI Germany, we should force parents to send their children to our public liberal indoctrination system that is eroding American civilization before our very eyes.
      

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         Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Frankly even the worst pubic education you can get in the US is not as bad the level of education implied by people suggesting humans lived alongside dinosaurs.

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            Onusonusposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I think I would rather my kids believe that than this crap.
            

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               Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Simple mnemonic device "distributive property" is a mathematical term and the easiest way to remember it is "distribute the wealth", wealth is distributed continuously not just by the government, any transaction is a distribution of wealth.
               
               So no, nowhere near as bad, no need to be so PC about a mnemonic device.

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                  Onusonusposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh yes, for teaching math problems it is quite simple. Funny thing though, when applied to real life it only seems to work out on paper. Unless you multiply by 100 million dead people.

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                     Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Do you still fail to understand high school mathematics? It is an algebraic term, not a political one.

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                        Onusonusposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        It's both.

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               Uninvited Writerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, math is bad...

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                  Onusonusposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU

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            JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Frankly, they are both bad.
            
            My kids aren't going to public schools, they are laughable at best.

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               Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Eh it varies greatly from one to the other, as far as earnings after school and test results if one calibrates for the relevant wealth of the families of the children who attend them (and the known impact on school results from this) then kids who go to private school don't do any better than public school.
               
               I made sure my kids went to public school, there is nothing worse than the spoiled sheltered brats private school produces but I also did some homeschooling on areas I thought were lacking.

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                  JaxsonRaineposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Most private school is crap too.
                  
                  The field of education took huge steps backward in the 1500s, and hasn't recovered since. The ancient Greeks were the ones who first started to unlock the natural power of the brain, but religion caused those methods to be wiped out of schools because they were 'unholy'.
                  
                  Every public school, and every private school I've ever seen, teaches children extremely ineffectively. It's like school is a car, and you're trying to get your kid to a destination, but all schools refuse to shift out of first gear. It's complete nonsense.
                  
                  There is no reason why kids shouldn't be able to have a law degree by 18. Not kidding in the slightest.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree!

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      Kevin Peterposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "Dinosaurs lived with people". Not believable. Dinosaurs got extinct even before human beings appeared on this earth. Then how come this quote becomes true.

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         Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Because religious loons who run that school believe the earth and all the creatures on it were created in seven days.

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   tirelesstravelerposted 10 years ago

   Who was there to declare there were no dinosaurs at the time of the flood?

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      As there was no one alive today that was there when the transcontinental railroad was built, it is obviously a ploy of Satan.
      
      Satan laid the rails and drove the spikes himself.  He even produced the story of John Henry the steel driving man, to confuse us, and made those old steam engines that rode the rails back then.  The earth was created in May, 1950 - just before my birth - and anyone older is a demon, spawn of Satan set upon the earth to sow dissension and confusion.

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      Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Archeology and carbon dating.

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         tirelesstravelerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Just theories.

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            Uninvited Writerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Seriously?

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   Beth37posted 10 years ago

   http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp
   
   What's interesting to me is how many ppl take something at face value.
   Did anyone question the validity of this pic? I'm not saying it's not 100% authentic, however, it's not as if we don't have the technology to say... change the date on the test in this pic... or the questions/answers. Are there not ppl from every tribe and nation, that teach their children things we never would? What is so shocking? I would never teach my children many of the things an Atheist teaches their child. Andie McDowell says she and her husband run around nude on their ranch in front of their children... I can't imagine doing this, or going to a nude beach. Christian scientists have let members of their faith die b/c they refuse the help of modern medicine. Unless your child attends this school, is this really something that affects your life personally? I don't think you need to fear these kids becoming future scientists so why is the reaction of many "Two arms!" when something so insignificant takes place? Read the last sentence on that link... it seems like such overkill.

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, of course there are many cultures that teach things that we never would.  It is just one of the reasons there are so many third world countries, full of poverty, misery and ignorance - they have no real knowledge base to build on. Even though knowledge it is freely available it isn't accepted as truth, children aren't taught it and the local conditions continue their abysmally slow advance, falling behind the rest of the world every day.

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         Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         If you notice, ppl use the ploy of "This affects all of us because..." But honestly... every thing every person on earth teaches their kid affects us in one way or another... outside of that commonality... it really doesn't affect any of us. If that's what they believe and teach their children, it's none of our business. There are some ppl beating their kids right now and molesting them as well... we might wanna get involved in these kinds of situations. I would think being abused would be a hell of a lot worse than being misguided.

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            Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Of course being abused is worse, both are bad though.

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               Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               According to that logic, you, believing religion to be false I assume, should then stop all the ppl of the world from teaching their children about God. Basically, just run the world as you see fit. Maybe you can do something about ppl wearing white after labor day too.
               Or possibly some problems are greater than others and there is a point where you stop trying to control everyone around you and allow ppl to exist as they see fit.
               You cannot compare the two issues. If an issue is not harmful and doesn't affect you, be at peace with others. It's a gift you give yourself as well as them.

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                  Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  It's not for me that I worry but for the poor kids having their heads stuffed with what we can factually prove to be wrong. They are our future, there are few issues that are more important.

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                     Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     And there it is... the "It affects me and the future of our planet and that is why we have to freak out that a small school somewhere in the US teaches that dinosaurs and men existed at the same time."
                     Really? Have you heard of Darfur? What about sweat shops? How about children starving in the Appalachians? How about the fact that there are teachers, male and female, sexually abusing the students, as we speak? But yeah... lets all focus on this subject... the dinosaur thing... cause why? Oh yeah, cause the word Christian is attached. Fodder for a new thread. Perfect. Other wise, what would ATM have to do today?

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                        Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        We do stuff about all those things, all things that are wrong should be tackled, this is just another one, stop acting persecuted it's a tired and ridiculous Schtick in a country where 70% of the population is Christian.

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                           Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           What do you personally do?

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                              Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Really? you want a list?
                              
                              it's going to sound very self aggrandizing for anyone to make a list of their charitable activities.

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                                 Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                 Eh, do as you please. Im done.

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                                    Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                                    How surprising.
                                    
                                    School is to educate children not brainwash them with things that are provably wrong.

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                              A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              At first, we all tried praying to your God, but that just made things worse. So instead, we got off our butts and started actually doing things.

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                        A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        That would be the result of a world that has been run by folks who have been intentionally dumbed down, the point of this thread.
                        
                        
                        
                        Before or after I go golfing and swimming?

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                           Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           Golfing?! Screw that noise, use the carts to have a destruction derby!
                           
                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D7IAvRAXng

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                              A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              LOL! Only Johnny Knoxville could come up with stuff like that.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Childhood indoctrination is child abuse.
                  
                  
                  
                  No, instead of magical sky daddies telling us what to do, we would use reason, rationale and logic to run the world, as it should be.
                  
                  
                  
                  That would put every single Christian evangelist out of work.
                  
                  
                  
                  Childhood indoctrination affects us all negatively. It is not a gift, it is a blight.

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                     gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!

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      Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Snopes found it to be accurate.
      
      Teaching children things that are simply factually wrong is itself wrong, we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that these claims are false, there is no matter of opinion or interpretation about it. So yes it's definitely wrong.

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      A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Like facts?
      
      
      
      Yet, she's a devoted Christian who attends church every Sunday.

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   rebekahELLEposted 10 years ago

   It's interesting how teachers and the education system are always at fault.  Have you tried teaching the children of today in a classroom?  What are parents doing at home with these kids?  Children are still being sent to school with packed lunches including lunchables, colored, sugar filled water, chips, pop tarts,
   nothing but junk, and parents expect their children to learn.  They have no attention span, they lack social skills and they're packed together in classrooms and expected to learn. 
   BTW, brainwashing starts at home.

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