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Do you believe this? Really?

  1. janshares profile image96
    jansharesposted 5 years ago

    Jodi Arias is giving her "closing statement." What?! WHAT!!!? WTF?! Unbelievable. The sympathy card? Really, Jodi? OMG.

    1. thomasgene profile image75
      thomasgeneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      They need to wire her up, flip the switch and forget it ever happened. Trying to "accommodate"  ridiculous people like this over fear of being labeled "insensitive" or "politically incorrect" is one of the main problems with our entire country, let alone our penal system.

      1. fpherj48 profile image77
        fpherj48posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        thomas.....Don't be shy....tell us how you REALLY feel...LOL.   I could not agree with you more.  You used that damned BUZZ term, "political correctness."   I can't tolerate it one more day!

  2. janshares profile image96
    jansharesposted 5 years ago

    She had a powerpoint presentation, complete with baby pictures and family pics. She had a t-shirt she designed that said "survivor" in support of domestic violence survivors, of which she claimed to be one. It was a circus. I just had to speak out on how outraged I felt as I watched it live. What a performance.

    1. quotations profile image92
      quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      As much as this has become a circus, I was disgusted with the behaviour of the prosecutor. He was a condescending bully to many of the witnesses, and in my view brought the administration of justice into disrepute. Whatever your may think of Jodi Arias, the State has an obligation not to act like a common thug, and I was appalled at the way that the prosecutor addressed the witnesses.

      What you see now is if Jodi's lawyers are to be believed at least a partly his fault because the tone he set during the trial phase has scared away any potential defence witnesses during the penalty phase. Arias is clearly mentally ill and the penalty phase should not proceed without proper psychiatric assessments and testimony. I think they are being way too eager to ram through a death penalty but in the end I would not be surprised if it gets overturned on appeal due to numerous errors.

      Although I agree that she was correctly convicted, I think that she should not face the death penalty. To me the death penalty should never be given in cases of single homicide but should be reserved for multiple murders such as serial killers. What she did deserves is life in prison, but the whole process is a farce as far as I am concerned because the state should not even be asking for the death penalty.

      The fact that she is putting on a defence to the death penalty phase which is likely to only anger the jurors speaks to the ineffectiveness of the process. She is not being properly represented, either because of her lawyers' shortcomings or as they say because they cannot work with her due to her mental health issues and all potential witnesses have been scared off by the bullying. The judge should have agreed to postpone the death penalty phase or take other steps to ensure that she had a fair chance.

      1. janshares profile image96
        jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        You make a lot of sense, quotations. I did not follow the trial at all, only became interested at the time of verdict and sentencing. So I cannot argue with many of your points. I do agree, and was thinking as I watched, that her lawyers must have given up and said to her, "Do whatever you want."

      2. fpherj48 profile image77
        fpherj48posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        quotations......I can appreciate your feelings on this case, in terms of Juan Martinez and I understand why you have arrived at this opinion.  While I might agree with on a "personal" level, the reality of our country's Trial by Jury System of Justice, is what it is.....always has been and always will be, whether your average individual finds it intolerable or not.
        Juan Martinez, in the world of our Legal System, is exactly what a good Prosecutor needs to be and should be.  He is, btw, held in high esteem by his peers, as well as Judges.  He is the BULL DOG, every Prosecutor wishes they could be.  Believe it or not, Mr. Martinez is THE Prosecutor that Arizona seeks out for cases, such as this one.  He doesn't lose and the State of Arizona wanted to be assured a Total Victory in this particular case, for the reasons, that at this point, should be obvious to all.  I'd like to add, that were my son brutally butchered, as Travis was....I would WANT Juan Martinez in all of his unbearable obnoxiousness, as the Big Bad Prosecutor.
        I'm afraid that this finger, needs to be pointed directly at Jodi's inept Defense.....who, btw, tried everything imaginable, to weasle out of defending Jodi Arias.  Were they solid, smart Attorneys....they would have NEVER used a self-defense plea.  Rather, they should have gone straight to a Mental Health defense.  She is the PERFECT Mental Health defendant.  Jodi is the classic, hard core version of Borderline Personality Disorder.
        In any event....it's in the hands of 12 people and we cannot know what they will come back with, although I have very strong vibes as to what their penalty for Jodi will be.  We shall soon find out.

        1. quotations profile image92
          quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          As a lawyer in Canada I have a different perspective on his court room behaviour. We have had a number of scandals in Canada where it turned out that dozens of people were convicted of murder but were in fact innocent. The root of the problem was the no holds barred pitbull attitude of a particular prosecutor. He bullied witnesses, suppressed evidence favourable to the defence. I know it makes it for good court room theatrics but the real goal should be fairness to all including the accused.

          1. fpherj48 profile image77
            fpherj48posted 5 years agoin reply to this

            OH, absolutely....I realize there can always be misconduct thrown in here and there, but then, isn't this why we have a JUDGE overseeing the operation?  I have seen totally egregious behavior and unforgivable prosecutorial misconduct......"Marty Tankleff," of New York, definitely comes to mind.  It has always been my opinion, that the thugs involved in that outrageous Circus, should have been made to pay dearly, in more than one way, for the years they literally & shamelessly, robbed from that innocent man's life.
            I shouldn't get started on that case.  My husband and I were up close and personal with that case...and to this day, I am not over my disgust & anger, with the Dirt Bags in suits, who screwed Marty in PLAIN SIGHT of anyone with even half a brain.  Simply unforgivable.
            In terms of your last comment....you make an absolute point.  Thanks for responding...

            1. quotations profile image92
              quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I googled the Marty Tankleff story. Sad to hear about what happened. Many professionals in the police and in the prosecutor's office lose sight of the fact that they should be trying to uncover the truth, not get a conviction at all costs.

    2. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I echo your sentiments and outrage, identically.  The problem is, we need to HOPE that the jury feels the same.  Were they angry at her disgraceful and shameless presentation?  Did it turn even ONE jurors head?  Can they focus on the brutal & heinous slaughter of Travis, at her hands?  The sheer evil she indulged in, as she took the life of a young, vibrant, talented & loving man......
      I keep my fingers crossed that her "moment on stage," was the same JOKE, to the jury, as it was to you and I and the vast majority of the public.   
      NOW, that she sees that "life" w/o parole, might possibly give JODI, a chance to "help those less fortunate & literate as her,"  she'll be OK with that?   OH, how nice, Jodi.  How DARE she?  The girl's got more delusions than a psyche ward for the criminally insane........
      If I was a juror.....THAT, is precisely why I would impose the Death Penalty.   Oops, sorry Evil Crazy Lady.......too late!

      1. janshares profile image96
        jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I hear you loud and clear, Paula.

  3. prettydarkhorse profile image63
    prettydarkhorseposted 5 years ago

    Maybe CNN can dovote their timeshare with more relevant issues not personal dramas like those cases. smile

    1. quotations profile image92
      quotationsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Very true. And I might add that this is a variant of the Missing White Woman Syndrome that affects CNN. They would not have given a rat's a** if the parties has been African American. They are sensationalizing this trial because of the type of people involved.

      1. janshares profile image96
        jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Just sayin' it like you meant it, quotations.

      2. prettydarkhorse profile image63
        prettydarkhorseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Think CNN HLN is targeting audience during daytime which are housewives.

    2. janshares profile image96
      jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, prettydarkhorse. They let HLN carry that torch but it is all one  network, right?

      1. prettydarkhorse profile image63
        prettydarkhorseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        smile

  4. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image96
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 5 years ago

    I was floored to see how she packaged herself.  She is an unrepentant narcissist.  I think she honestly believes she has some sort of celebrity value, and that she can ride it out to even more fame after imprisonment.  I agree - CNN created at least a portion of this monster.  Get her off our screens, please, for all time.

    1. janshares profile image96
      jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      +1

    2. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Marcy.....I'm with you, friend.  Longing to hear that sweet loud and abrasive "CLANK" of the cell Door.....forever!

    3. profile image0
      Motown2Chitownposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Ditto, Marcy.  I could not have said it better myself.

    4. AMFredenburg profile image78
      AMFredenburgposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yup!

      I'd rather spend all the money the state would have to spend on her appeals if she gets the death penalty for Head Start-type programs for little kids.

  5. Kathryn Stratford profile image88
    Kathryn Stratfordposted 5 years ago

    I have intentionally not watched much about the case, because it makes me sick.
    If she were a man, I think she would realize she's not going to get away with it. If she were ever the victim of abuse, any sympathy she might have earned went away when she violently killed her man. She may not look like a monster, but she sure acted the part. I can hardly believe she wants sympathy!!!
    I can completely understand why you would want to voice your disgust here. Sometimes outrageous things happen, and you just got to say something about it!

    1. janshares profile image96
      jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Kathryn, for sharing my sentiments.

  6. AMFredenburg profile image78
    AMFredenburgposted 5 years ago

    I'm against the death penalty because of the possibility of its being used against innocent people and because it gets used against the people who are least able to defend themselves in court. I'm all for letting Jodi Arias live, throwing her in jail, and leaving her there, with the hopes that her victim's friends and family can wipe any memory of her from their minds. The best revenge in this instance is obscurity.

    1. janshares profile image96
      jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I see your point of view, AMFredenburg. Death or life, I still can't get past that outrageous performance of a sympathy plea. The gall . . .

      1. AMFredenburg profile image78
        AMFredenburgposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        She's a piece of work, that's for sure! She needs to hope that there are people on the jury who just can't bring themselves to put another human being to death, because she is definitely not helping her own case. I think she's trying to manipulate the jury and the system, and it may backfire on her. People just baffle me sometimes. . . .

  7. PeppermintPaddy profile image63
    PeppermintPaddyposted 5 years ago

    No, not surprised. She did say that she was upset that Travis ruined her sex life during the trial. She's probably like, "Good riddance!"

    1. janshares profile image96
      jansharesposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I believe you're right, PeppermintPaddy.

      1. AMFredenburg profile image78
        AMFredenburgposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Can the jury sentence the woman to shut the $#@@ up?! That would be nice! "We'll let you live, but you can never talk to the media again, ever!"

  8. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I find changing the channel every time she comes on to be quite effective.

 
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