How do you feel about the abortion pill now being available to minors?

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   VVanNessposted 11 years ago

   Previously an abortion for a minor (under 18) had to have an approval from the mother's parents before it could legally be granted. However, the makers of the abortion drug Plan B gotten the FDA to approve it for over-the-counter sale to minors. 15 year olds can now purchase this pill in certain states at any drug store without parental permission.

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      autumn18posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Would you prefer the 15 year old to get pregnant?

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         VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I would prefer the 15 year old not to be having sex, but in the case of it, I would never condone killing her baby.

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            Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The morning after pill does not "kill a baby" it prevents conception.

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               abt79posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               And it fosters and promotes irresponsibility,

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                  Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  It certainly does not. Most people who take this drug were raped.

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                     Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     You sure about that?

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                  Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah it doesn't at all. First off the drug makes you feel very very sick, I looked after someone who took it, they threw up all day, broke out in a rash and felt sick for two days after. No one is being sexually irresponsible and taking the morning after pill on a regular basis unless they are masochists.
                  
                  I would also like to remind so called conservatives that they are supposed to be for small government, you know government too small to try and force people to be sexually responsible.
                  
                  Uninvited writer is correct, the morning after pill is most commonly used after rape, when sex is consensual usually people just use contraception that doesn't make you sick for days, not to mention condoms are cheaper.

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                     Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Where is the proof that only sexual assault victims are the only ones using this pill?

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                        Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Read really carefully. No one said only.

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                           Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Where is the proof that  sexual assault victims are the majority of those using this pill.
                           
                           You said she was right.
                           "Most people who take this drug were raped."

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                              Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Yup and I presented a rational proof with it.
                              
                              Most people won't use an expensive contraceptive that makes you sick for days instead of say condoms. I am sure you can do 2+2 right?

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                                 Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 Like I thought, nothing to back up your post.

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                                    Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    Nope the proof is right there closing your eyes and saying lalallalalalalala doesn't make it not there   There isn't hard statistical proof partially because it would be nigh impossible to measure and partly because most rapes are not reported.
                                    
                                    Also ask any nurse, if someone comes into the hospital having been raped offering them the morning after pill is basic procedure.

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                                       Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       No, you have not provided proof, just because you say it doesn't make it so.
                                       
                                       But feel free to keep posting as if you scored a touchdown.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's an excellent thing, in the past young people who got pregnant were often too scared and embarrassed to do anything until it started showing at which point they were often tossed out by their parents or had to have an abortion etc. young people at 15 have serious physical issue with giving birth anyway, it's not a healthy thing to do for most 15 year old's.
      
      The fault lies largely with parents in making sex such a taboo subject so their children cant talk to them when something like this happens but given we have so many bad parents who do that this is the best we can make of a bad situation.
      
      In no way does the morning after pill kill a baby.

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      Mitch Alanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It is just one more way in which the government is usurping the rights of the parent. Granted, too many parents are willing giving up parental power to the nanny state on this an many other things. Instead of teaching children why sex at a young age is detrimental, both physically and emotionally, we are continuing to go down the path of "they are just animals who will do it anyway"...We've abdicated parenthood and try to be their friends first. We, as a society have, for decades, become the the reason for most of our own problems by NOT standing strong for right and wrong and adopting a moral relativism, politically correct mindset.

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         Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Or just one more way government is protecting the rights of the individual by giving them the right to choose what they do to their own bodies.
         
         Abstinence education has been thoroughly tried, it failed, TOTALLY and utterly. The states with abstinence education programs have the highest rates of STDs and teen pregnancy. Teenagers from strongly religious households (who are more likely to teach abstinence and scorn "moral relativism") also have higher rates of STD contraction and teen pregnancy.
         
         SYSTEMS THAT FAIL ARE ABANDONED. Simple as that.
         
         I will take moral relativism over closed and small minded people who are sure they have the definite right absolute truth any day of the week.
         
         "Only when we realize that there is no eternal, unchanging truth or absolute truth can we arouse in ourselves a sense of intellectual responsibility."
         - Hu Shih

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            Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Abstinence education worked in my house, four girls and not a single teenage pregnancy among them and yes, they are all adults now.
            
            Instead of depending on government to raise kids the parents should do it.
            
            I know, anecdotal evidence, doesn't have to be though.

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               VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Hear hear!

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               Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Doesn't work for everyone though...

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               Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               But my parents never preached abstinence either (although I'm sure like most parents they hoped for it) and I didn't get pregnant when I was a teenager.

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               Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Yeah anecdotal and statistically irrelevant. It simply doesn't work as well as the alternative, results in more pregnancies and other problems.

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                  Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Keep giving kids pills, its the only way huh?

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         VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I totally agree. My thoughts are why show them sex is okay, and that there are no consequences, by providing them the "morning after pill." I truly think serious education is called for, and then a lesson in actions having consequences.

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            autumn18posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I totally agree that there needs to be education and lessons that show what the consequences are however I don't think a young girl (and boy in some cases) should have to have her life altered so drastically if there are ways to prevent that. Perhaps some thought needs to be given on if/how minors should be allowed to buy it without consent. I think maybe a way they can get it from a clinic if they feel there are unsafe telling someone.

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      IslandBitesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Plan B is not abortion, so your argument is not correct.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I see nothing wrong with it.  Some parents have an extremely atavistic attitude towards their teenager's sexuality.  By implementing this, unplanned and unwanted teenage pregnancies will hopefully be drastically reduced. 
      
      Many parents in the United States are disapproving of their teenage children have access to contraception and contraceptive information is the main reason why there are so many teenage pregnancy.  They believe if they disapprove contraception and contraceptive information regarding their teenagers, the latter WON'T have sex.   They believe that approval of contraception for their teenagers means they are approving the latter having sex.   Many American parents have an ostrich mentality in regards to teenage sexuality.   
      
      I say that birth control and other forms of contraception should be readily available to teenagers.  If I had a teenage child, I will provide a thoroughly comprehensive sex education which will include the use of contraception and responsible/mature/respectful sexual behavior.

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         Lie Detectorposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         " They believe if they disapprove contraception and contraceptive information regarding their teenagers, the latter WON'T have sex."
         
         Where is the proof that is true?

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 11 years ago

   it's called "the morning after pill".......
   
   i don't see a problem with it..............................................

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I would love to hear your argument.

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   The current situation follows the law.  If people want it changed, the law needs to be changed.

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That's the situation with every law. Why I ask is because I wanted to know your opinion.

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         psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I think they were correct to change the disbursement to match the law.  I think that there are some desperate and vulnerable kids out there that are better off with access to this pill than without it.

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            VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Okay. Thanks for your thoughts!

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   Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

   The President is actually against it being made available to minors without parental permission.

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Nice!

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   On a population level 50% of all pregnancies are unplanned.  So in terms of making plans for the entire country I think that needs to be taken into account.  We are still (weirdly enough) is a situation where people don't make careful choices about their own fertility/sex etc. And then there are the kids who may be in an abuse situation.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Totally agree with you, psycheskinner.

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   jlparkposted 11 years ago

   Being that the ECP or morning after pill prevents implantation of a 'possibly' fertilised egg - it is NOT an abortion pill.
   
   An abortion is either sponteneous (also known as a miscarriage - the body aborts a foetus that has huge issues - miscarriage's other scientific term is sponatanous abortion)
   Or it is the removal - surgical (using suction) - of a foetus from a womb that has ALREADY implanted and has been witnessed to exist through blood tests and scans.
   
   If a egg does not implant - it is not a pregnancy. So this pill - not an abortion pill.
   
   It would be like being outraged that people were having sex at times that they KNEW they couldn't get pregnant - knowing their ovulation times Etc.
   
   Often the girls using this don't know their ovulation times and there is not necessarily even an egg available to be fertilised.

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      VVanNessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think my main problem is that the process is completely skipping over parents. Not only do they not have to even know what their children are up to, they aren't being given a choice about the decisions their minors are making.

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   tirelesstravelerposted 11 years ago

   23 years ago a boy of 13 died. He had a congenital heart defect.  He was small for his age.  During treatment a drug was purpose. The drug worked well on adults.   Doctors hoped the drug given at 1/2 adult dose would be fine for the teen. It was experimental. Would the government inform  parents they were doing clinical trials on 15 year old girls who hadn't told their parents they are pregnant? 
   
   What experiments have been done on these drugs concerning teenagers?  It used to take years of intense study to address all the facets of drug interaction on adults, more research was then needed to see if children interaction was the same. Usually these experiments are done on critically ill children as a last ditch effort to save the child's life. This my reason for my assertion there is no research to back this decision.
   Today drug companies bring to market drugs according to political pressures not necessarily because they are safe.

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