Why Are Republicans So Out Of Touch?

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  1. LucidDreams profile image64
    LucidDreamsposted 10 years ago

    I am not saying ALL Republicans are, I am just wondering why anyone would actually stay with a party that is clearly not on the same page as most of America? Most (not all) but most who are die hard right Republicans watch Fox news. Not sure if you have noticed, they can't even get along with each other anymore. Always sticking the foot in their mouths. What's up with these people? This is not 1955, women have a right to work and also do what they wish with their bodies. The economy is improving (maybe slowly) but it is, even with everything that the Republicans have tried to do to make sure it did not!

    When are Republicans going to actually give the country something besides scandals and impeachment ideas. How about doing your job and actually improving the country(what an original idea that would be)

    I will tell you right now and I know all the die hards will say (what about Obama? He's just a liar and blah blah blah, go back and watch some more Fox News. Here's an idea, try watching something besides Fox and you may actually learn something and quit being brain washed. The reason they hate the so called main strean tv is because they are main stream, this means, this is what most people agree on besides the crazies.

    I dont know. I give up hoping that some day the Republicans will get a clue. I used to be a fan but the last several years are just too much.

    Any party that spends all of it's time and resources trying to make another party fail versus helping our country is bound to disappear eventually. It's sad for the Republicans that they cannot win, maybe they need to quit talking so much and start listening a little more, It's 2013.......wake up already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. Josak profile image60
      Josakposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Because they are demographically old and uneducated.

      1. profile image56
        Education Answerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        You love to quote your study about how democrats are more educated than republicans as if it is fact.  What was your source?  How many studies or polls have come to this conclusion? 

        It seems that not all sources agree with your study:

        Republicans are better educated then Democrats

        http://www.usmessageboard.com/education … crats.html

        Republicans More Educated & Informed, Higher Political IQ, per Liberal Pew Poll

        http://gulagbound.com/35139/republicans … -pew-poll/

        Study: Republicans Happier Than Democrats

        http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/31/study … democrats/

        Pew Research: ‘Republicans Know More’

        http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/p … -more/8589

        By the way, I don't believe any of these sources any more than I believe the studyor poll you quote from all the time.  There is likely no significant statistical difference in education between republicans and democrats.  These studies and polls are garbage, along with yours.  All of them take away from the real debate and focus more on petty little "I'm better" kinds of juvenility.

        1. Zelkiiro profile image87
          Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Conservatives include the Religious Right, so, by association, their collective IQ is already lower by at least 20 points.

          1. profile image56
            Education Answerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            The liberal left also includes a lot of freeloaders who didn't have enough drive to even consider finishing high school.  I think we're pretty even.

            Again, it's very unlikely either side is quantifiably more intelligent or even better educated

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            Brenda Durhamposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            That's odd.
            I'm intelligent enough to know that your statement is false and cruel.
            Aren't you?

        2. Levellandmike profile image79
          Levellandmikeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          You keep stealing my thunder, damn you!

      2. Levellandmike profile image79
        Levellandmikeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Non sequitor

      3. LucidDreams profile image64
        LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        "Demographically old and uneducated". Whew~!!!! That's rough buddy. I dont know that I would go that far, but in truth, Polls show that those who are farthest to the right, tend to be older, live in rural areas and have been hardened Republicans for may years.

        The only thing I have to say about this is: Why would anyone only support a party versus ideas. Sometimes people get it wrong, when it comes to party lines, they all stick together, this means they all have it wrong. I feel better knowing that my votes are decided by REAL thinking and going over reasoning using true facts I don't base my whole opinion on a political party and just call it good!

    2. profile image53
      dlbergerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why do Democrats always have to buy votes to win?  Why do Democrats have to cheat to win?  Why do Democrats have to shout down the opposition to win?  Why to Democrats have to intimidate the opposition to win?  Which party would you rather be affiliated with?

      1. bBerean profile image60
        bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        All of those assumptive questions, based on the example set by this thread with "Why Are Republicans So Out Of Touch?", would make excellent thread headings.  big_smile

  2. bBerean profile image60
    bBereanposted 10 years ago

    Love the assumptive question.  "Why are republicans so out of touch?"  I don't know?  When did you stop beating your wife?

    1. Quilligrapher profile image74
      Quilligrapherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hi there bBerean. Hope all is good where you are.

      By calling the OP statement an “assumptive question,” you are confirming the OP is closer to reality then you think. The OP statement contains the same question many Republicans and journalist have been asking since last November.

      ABC News March 20, 2012 -
      Republicans Need to Admit They Are Out of Touch
      “The growth of minorities (especially Latinos and Asians), the increasing rise of a more secular population, the dissatisfaction of younger voters with Republicans, and women being a must-win voter group is spelling huge concern for the RNC and its candidates….
      “Republicans need to enunciate values, a message, and policies that fit where America is today…
      “Republican leaders need to have a 21st century conservative agenda and vision…
      “The Republican brand and many of its candidates are seen as intolerant throwbacks to a time gone by and not compassionate to where people are in their lives. Their agenda just seems like a retread of a vision and policies from 30 years ago…
      “Many Republican candidates and what the party stands for are totally out of sync with the majority of America…” {1}

      You know, bBerean, the fact that so many Republicans do not know they are out of touch with today’s electorate might just show just how far they are!

      BTW, I never have stopped beating my wife but thanks for asking. lol
      {1} http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/rep … d=18766248

    2. LucidDreams profile image64
      LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this


      Saying very little, and the way you say it, makes my point completely.......Thank you!!!!

      1. bBerean profile image60
        bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        True, my comment was very little, yet still it was more than the OP merits.  Keep the change.  wink

  3. Wayne Brown profile image81
    Wayne Brownposted 10 years ago

    Maybe you need to check the statistics.  This country has always been distributed in views and thinking slightly to the conservative side of center.  Obama has yet to submit a budge that even his own party will vote for...even though he is required to complete the process by law.  The Republicans in the House have sent bill after bill to the Senate...which is what their job is.  Harry Reid in his illustrious positon elects to pigeon hole them and not bring them to the floor for discussion or vote...says there is not enough support to warrant it.  Legislating give away programs and naturalizing new Democrat voters by declaring reform as our only hope is insanity yet we are led to believe that security of our borders is not a concern by the left....reform...not security.  How's that for stuffing the ballot box to the left?  Spending is insanely out of control and the government is running on a open checkbook.  The deficit grows larger; the debt grows larger but we need to think of more ways to spend money so we can justify more ways to tax people...excuse me...in Democrat liberal terms that is "revenue enhancement".  Don't talk to me  about out of touch...the Democrats lost their party long ago to a bunch of socialist progressives who have only one mission and that is to dismantle the heritage and structure of this nation one thing at a time.  If you call that being in touch, then buddy you can have it.  From my side, I value freedom, liberty, and our Constitution and I have no use for anyone in high office who does not.  ~WB

    1. Quilligrapher profile image74
      Quilligrapherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Howdy Wayne. Good to see ya.

      You must not realize it, Wayne, but you just proved to the OP just how far out of touch with reality many Americans are. Merely suggesting this is a failure on the part of the president is absurd. If you check it out, the president is required by law to submit budget recommendations to congress and he has done that every year without exception. {1}

      Now that we have established that the President has done his job, let us take a look at the congress (not the President) that has the responsibility to draft a functional budget. “In Congress, the House and Senate have budget committees tasked with creating concurrent budget resolutions, using the president’s budget as a guide… The legislation they draft is for Congressional use only: it doesn't go to the President, it isn't law, it just helps Congress keep its budgetary ducks in a row.” {2}

      Because some elements in the congress have reduced it to a shamefully dysfunctional assembly, our elected congresspersons have devised “Continuing Resolutions” to make an end run around the budget process. (Sorry Wayne, but they have nothing to do with the president either.) The last real, full federal budget that was signed into law in this country was 1997 under Bill Clinton. {3} There is no point hanging President Bush for this since he is no more to blame than President Obama.

      Good to hear from you Wayne. I always learn something from your posts.
      {1} http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter … ss-budget/
      {2} Ibid
      {3} http://prospect.org/article/does-congre … ass-budget

    2. Quilligrapher profile image74
      Quilligrapherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You are so right, Wayne. The House has sent three bills to repeal Obamacare in its entirely and 37, count them Wayne, 37 bills to repeal parts of the ACA. Now why would the Republican House want to waste its own time and the resources of the Senate on bills they know will not survive? “Boehner explained [at the time] that he was holding the vote again because new members had been asking for the opportunity to vote on repeal.” {1} Duh?

      Just another example of a dysfunctional Congress.
      {1} http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/house … are-again/

  4. Mighty Mom profile image79
    Mighty Momposted 10 years ago

    Making sure all citizens have guns and no citizens have abortions.
    That's a helluva a party platform.
    Other than that, today's GOP Congress is a giant black hole.
    It defines itself as existing to solely to thwart everything the President tries to accomplish.
    Maybe they think if they say "No!!!" often enough (e.g., 37 votes to repeal Obamacare)
    the country will be magically teleported back in time to 1951.
    Good luck with that, McFly.

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There are platforms and then there are platforms. 

      Making sure no citizen has a gun, every woman has at least one late term abortion and that no citizen has two dimes to rub together is another great party platform.

  5. Wayne Brown profile image81
    Wayne Brownposted 10 years ago

    @Quill...Don't forget Harry Reid and his boys have been in the Senate majority since 2007...and the Dems holding the majority in both chambers of Congress through 2010 and Obama still could not get a budget in on time to even vote on.  But they sure got things done in the dead of night to pass ObamaCare with backroom deals galore and that giggling Ms. Pelosi gleefully stating "Now that we have passed it, we can see what is in it".  Such statement would hold up as evidence in a sanity hearing.  Tax and spend cannot be the order of the day forever but forever is not necessary...Obama should be able to break our backs within his term if he can gain some footholds.  Then if Hilary can follow him, I would say you need to start picking out some form of drab green fabric for your new gulag uniform...you know the place where fairness are equality are legislated.  Any president worth his salt in history has been a leader and a consensus builder in those times when there was division.  Obama does not understand the concept... all he knows is divide and conquer...the radical community organizer's (and I use the term loosely) way.That may be the way Obama's hero, Saul Alinsky, thinks should be the manner in which thing are accomplished but eventually people tire of that manipulation and class warfare if they have any sense at all.  Obviously it is okay to set the IRS upon the conservative groups like some type of jackboot gestapho because, afterall, they are conservatives with bad ideas like having balanced bugets and living with our means.  Any idiot can get elected to office promising everyone the moon and then delivering it on borrowed money while they cry on national television about all the good we are doing here in America.  It does not take any purported Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude to come up with ideas beyond our means or frivilous green programs designed primarily for the purpose of ripping off the American taxpayer.  People will figure this out and eventually the left will pay a price for it once some level of sanity is regained.  As always Quill...you are a dear! LOL! Thanks much. ~WB

    1. Mighty Mom profile image79
      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There are so many subtopics in your post that deserve discussion.
      But I recognize and respect that you were addressing Quill. And I'm sure he will, if
      he's still around tonight and in the spirit, respond in kind.

      I will address, if I may, your comment about the "frivolous green programs designed primarily for the purpose of ripping off the American taxpayer."
      I know of no programs that are designed primarily (or even secondarily) for that
      express purpose.
      However, I did happen to see this segment last night on Tesla Motors and thought
      it apropos to share here.

      Here's link followed by excerpts (selected by me).
      http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/30/tesla-mo … s-

      Throughout the last election–most notably in the vice presidential debate–Paul Ryan rebuked President Obama for what he called “$90 billion of green pork to campaign contributors and special interest groups.” Ryan was referring to the loans the federal government gave through the Department of Energy to pioneers of green tech like electric car manufacturer Tesla Motors, which repaid its own $456 million loan in full last Wednesday, nine years early.

      Tesla is riding a meteoric rise in stock value. Company shares have more than tripled in price since the first of the year, gaining 14% on Tuesday alone to close at $110.33. CEO Elon Musk (also the owner of SpaceX, a private space transport company) has used profits from the surge to pay off the U.S. Energy Department’s loan, in part by buying $100 million of the stock himself.

      Despite Tesla’s success, some Republicans seem intent on focusing on the federal government’s less profitable investments. “When they’re picking all these losers, it’s nice for them to have one where they can point to,” Representative Jim Jordan said.

      “Essentially, then, the Republican argument against clean-energy loan programs is: ‘If any of the investments fail, then the entire program is a failure.To the investor out there who has never made a losing investment, I salute you and implore you to let me, the government and the whole rest of the world in on your secrets.”

      ...even Warren Buffett, the most successful investor in history, has made bad bets, Babe Ruth only had a .342 batting average, and Muhammad Ali lost five times.

      Loss is a part of investment: one only hopes the winners outnumber the losers in the end.

      “Clean-energy loan programs are a bet on the future,” he said. “And if we won’t bet on the future, then soon enough we’ll have nothing left to do but fold.”

    2. Quilligrapher profile image74
      Quilligrapherposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Do not presume, my friend, that I have forgotten because I have not. You still think the President is responsible. Clearly, Wayne, you do not understand how the budget process works in Congress. What is worse, you seem unaware of what has been going on in Washington. Never the less, I am happy you brought up the subject of congress voting on a budget since it is, after all, their responsibility, not the president’s, to adopt one.

      After Obama submitted his fiscal year 2013 budget proposal on Feb. 13, 2012, House Republicans put it up for a floor vote. The bill was defeated when all Republicans in the house voted against it. Your claim that President Obama has not had his budget recommendations voted upon is pure fiction. {1}

      I urge you to read endnote {1} because it contains a great deal of information.

      A year earlier, in a classic case of political theater, the republicans in the Senate called for vote on the President’s Budget Recommendations knowing every Democrat in the Senate would vote against. You see Wayne, the President and Senate Democrats had drafted a replacement for the original Budget Recommendation as part of a deficit-reduction plan. Republican leaders demanded a vote on Obama’s budget hoping people like you would think that Democrats do not support any detailed budget submitted by the president. Clearly, they convinced you but it is a lie.

      Actually, Wayne, the budget process is a congressional responsibility shared jointly by both the Senate and the House but the document does not become law. Like all budgets, it is an operating plan intended to serve as a guide for appropriations, which are controlled by the Republican dominated House. You are trying to make a major issue out of a minor document. Congress has been using “Continuing Resolutions” to manage national finances for over a decade.

      I am sorry, Wayne, but I have neither the time nor the inclination to address all of the new subjects in your post. You have introduced issues that go far beyond our dialog. Some other thread perhaps.
      {1} http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter … ss-budget/

  6. profile image53
    dlbergerposted 10 years ago

    So, you think the President using a government organization to suppress free speech is not a problem?  If it was Republican President, he/she would have resigned already.

    1. Mighty Mom profile image79
      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why would any president, Republic, Democrat or any other party, resign under such circumstances?
      Investigations aren't even completed.
      No formal charges have been levied on anyone.
      Resign on what basis?

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        Lie Detectorposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Why would any President resign?

        How about the President was responsible for the IRS going after opposing political groups?

        No proof?

        How about after two years of people in Congress asking about this particular subject the President claims he doesn't know a thing about it?


        Why did the IRS director meet with the President 157 times (that we know about) and this topic never came up?

        Seems to me the President is either a crook, liar or is the most disengaged person to ever hold the office.

        And if it were George Bush?

        You would be going nuts.

        1. Levellandmike profile image79
          Levellandmikeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Lie Detector....I'm startin' to like you

        2. LucidDreams profile image64
          LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Hey, let's talk about this no good congress. The least productive congress in history by a long shot. Guess what? They are going to shatter their current record of being the least productive congress once again because they get nothing done. Yes, the investigations and scandals should be done and looked at. Ok, now that we have said that, can we get these fricken idiots back to work and start thinking about improving the country again, or is that just too much to ask of Repuiblican leadership?

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            Lie Detectorposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Really? I don't want these people passing any laws, I want them as unproductive as they can be.

            Government needs to understand that they cannot fix anything, just stay out of the way and everything will work itself out.

            1. LucidDreams profile image64
              LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

              That's exactly why you are most likely a Republican, you don't want anything to get done. Who cares if the bridges are falling down around us, they will fix themselves, they always do!

              1. wilderness profile image94
                wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Better than stealing what little we have to left to poke more holes in the bridges rather than just fixing them...

              2. profile image50
                Lie Detectorposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                I'm not a republican, and its not republicans fault that bridges are falling down.

            2. LucidDreams profile image64
              LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

              Why can't anything get passed through congress? The most underachieving and lowest rated congress of all time by a longshot? When is the will of the people going to be more important then pleasing those who funded your way to congress? The whole process makes me sick and watching these fools do everything possiblle to screw up the country is enough and keep things from moving forward is enough to put people in jail I think.

              Boehner had said "somebody should go to jail" I agree, we can start with him and the rest of the no good politicians who are purposely holding our country hostage for their personal needs and financial wants!

              1. Mighty Mom profile image79
                Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Somebody should go to jail is right.
                We Americans have such darned short attention spans and memories.
                Doesn't anyone remember how really, really bad things got in our country
                -- conveniently --right after Bush left office?
                Did the economic CRASH "just happen" or was it allowed to happen??
                Many real people lost their jobs. Many lost their homes.
                I read the indictment often today that 46 million Americans are on food stamps.
                That's criminal.  But thank God we have some assistance available.
                I read the indictment that the unemployment rate is still 7.5 percent (but much higher
                for African Americans -- like the people citing that statistic ever cared about that before or
                are doing anything about it now).

                I would like to know what our Congress is doing besides hatin' on Obama and tying up everyone's time on investigations (and don't forget all their appearances on talk shows) and 37 votes to repeal Obamacare.
                Is there any work being done in Washington?
                That is, after all, their job. Making laws.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Indeed, it's their job to make laws.
                  However, it's not Obama's job to make laws.
                  Yet he's the one who's been making laws and bullying the Lawmakers into making the laws that HE wants.
                  Neither is it the Supreme Court's job to make laws.
                  But Obama keeps appointing people like Sotomayor who DOES think it's her job to make laws.
                  So, until Obama and his minions stop trying to make laws,  and until they do their own jobs, then Republicans have no choice but to fight against their doings.   
                  No wonder no one has time for anything else.
                  It is YOUR icon Obama who is slowing down the wheels of all three branches of our Government.
                  He LOVES it!   He's been succeeding in distracting everyone so much that THEY can't do their jobs either.
                  So don't even pretend to think it's okay to blame it on Republicans.

                  And yeah, any Law like Obamacare that elicits the advertisement of books that try to tell Americans how to understand that Law, and how to "survive" that Law, is obviously a horrible law in the first place.   The people who wrote that "law" don't even have the ability to say what that law even is all about;  it's a huge huge distraction, and a political weapon.   Obama and his cronies wrote it all up so that people COULDN'T understand it, so that he'd have to hire a bunch of people to implement it, and so that people would be worn down by it and cave in and revert to acceptance of "universal health care".     Why isn't that plain to liberals too?    Oh I forgot.  They're still blinded by his "brilliance",  can't even see the hand he's been playing.   Or they just don't care.  Whichever.

                  And it's not right to blame Republicans for having to take time to investigate Obama's and his cronies's doings either!     That's like blaming a Judge for having to take time in Court for a criminal trial.  Obama and Holder and Clinton and Rice and Pelosi and those people are the ones who did the acts that require investigation.      Reckon they think if they do enough things, everyone will just throw up their hands and say oh well we can't stop them from doing whatever they want!   HUH!   They must think everyone is naive or stupid or gutless.   I don't think everyone is.

  7. LucidDreams profile image64
    LucidDreamsposted 10 years ago

    Every citizen should have the right to own a gun with no back ground check, even if they are idiots who let their own kids shoot eachother.....agreed

    Every women should be allowed an abortion, unless you believe like many in the Republican party, if a women was raped, God must have wanted that for some reason.

    And you are right, even though every poll shows that 73% of the people want government to focus on jobs and the economy, we should continue to follow the Republicans lead and do nothing but shout consipracy, take breaks when we should be working, and claim that nothing is getting better.

    Well things are getting better in our country, no thanks to the do nothing congress.....That's ok, let them continue to do the exact opposite of what the people want, just makes it more fun to watch them cry each time an election is held and they get their arses handed to em!

  8. Mitch Alan profile image80
    Mitch Alanposted 10 years ago

    The true problem is that Washington has "We the People" arguing about which party can "better" run programs that shouldn't exist in the first place. We have a bloated bureaucracy at the federal level that has completely ignored the limits of it's enumerated powers and the further restrictions of the 10th Amendment. The question should not be who is going to mismanage this behemoth the least, but whether and why are they even dealing with issues that are to be handled by the people, the local and States governments. Both Parties, for the most part, are not for, of and by the people, but are instead for of and by the ruling class. Very few of them take their oath to uphold the Constitution very seriously and would rather see how they can remain and gain power. The question is better posed to discuss the Liberal/Socialist platform versus the Constitutional/Free-Market platform. The Republican Party, as a whole, is not a Constitutional Conservative Party. It, like most of the Democrat Party, is focused on control of the people rather than serving the people.

    1. LucidDreams profile image64
      LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I see your point and can agree with a good part of it.

  9. profile image53
    dlbergerposted 10 years ago

    That thought had crossed my mind.  It 'll be interesting to see the responses to my questions.  In Wisconsin, during the last election they were busing people up from Chicago to vote because we have same day voter registration.  Our Republican legislators implemented voter id last year, but, a liberal Madison judge struck it down before the election.  The IRS intimidating conservation groups well before the election to quiet them.  The Muslim brotherhood used the same tactics in Egypt to take over that country even though they were in the minority.

    1. bBerean profile image60
      bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      What we are witnessing is scary, and even a bit ominous, isn't it?  Things I never thought we would see in the US, let alone have so many turn a blind eye and deaf ear to.  Funny, it seems to be those of us paying attention who are, per the OP, "out of touch".  If it weren't so critical, it would be comical.

      1. LucidDreams profile image64
        LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Paying attention requires more then one slanted news source to get your information from. As I have said many times, I am neither a Democrat or Republican, I choose to cast my opinion based on facts, not poiltical affiliation. Basing all opinions on political party alone, is truly being blind!

        1. bBerean profile image60
          bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          I frequently hear basically this same claim from extremes on both sides.  Good to know that like everyone else, you are open minded and forming your own opinions only after careful consideration of all the facts rather than working from an ideology and making broad stroke generalizations like "Why Are Republicans So Out Of Touch?".

  10. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years ago

    what should we do?

  11. profile image53
    dlbergerposted 10 years ago

    "what should we do?"  First, I'm going to assume when you say "we", you mean Americans in general.  Well, for one thing most Americans have to become better informed about politics.  We need to look at both sides of the argument.  We cannot assume that our legislators are looking out for our best interests.  I also think we need to implement term limits for national offices.  I've heard the saying that the longer one serves in office is like the longer fruit stays on the tree.  The more rotten it gets.

    1. Zelkiiro profile image87
      Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      For once, you posted something I agree with.

      But it's also vital to keep religion out of politics and use only logic, reason, and the Constitution.

      1. Mitch Alan profile image80
        Mitch Alanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        Zelkiiro, It is quite impossible, and never intended, to keep someone's faith from guiding their decisions and shaping their personal "platform". The founders, those that crafted the Constitution, never intended faith to be excluded from public office, but rather to ensure that the government did not intrude into things of faith, such as dictating which "church" the people could attend. It was meant as a one way street.
        Logic and reason are in short demand, but with that being said, it is only logical to assume that laws and law-makers will be guided, at least in part, by the faith and beliefs of the People and those elected by them. These beliefs, put into action, must fall into the constraints of the Constitution, always remembering that the Constitution is set up to limit the federal government and not the people, or to any great degree, the States.

    2. profile image50
      Lie Detectorposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "We cannot assume that our legislators are looking out for our best interests."

      I don't assume that, I assume the polar opposite.

    3. LucidDreams profile image64
      LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Term limits has long been the best short term solution. Why we have not implimented it is basically because those who have been in office long enough to be affected, will not vote for it! Our political structure is more then just broken!

      This stuff with the nsa ticks me off. I also see the reasoning behind it and the fact that it was initiated under Republican rule and each year, Republicans like John Boehner vote and approve to keep the program in tact, Funny how they forget they voted for the program and then cry for a fact finding mission!

      Democrats and Republicans need to start working together to solve problems instead of spending all of their time trying to find scandals to keep things from going nowhere until the next election.

  12. profile image53
    dlbergerposted 10 years ago

    Definitely, the Constitution.  Logic and reason, might be a blue sky request if you know what I mean smile.

  13. LucidDreams profile image64
    LucidDreamsposted 10 years ago

    Just pointing out the obvious!

  14. LucidDreams profile image64
    LucidDreamsposted 10 years ago

    I am certainly not saying that Democrats have a great track record, They don't!  I am a citizen of the United States. The reason we have a congress and a senate is to work out problems and make this a better country to live in. When one party is unwilling no matter how bad things may get, I am going to call them out, and just like most Americans, ask that they be replaced in the next elections. This will probably happen no matter how much "happy smoke" the Fox news network want's to blow!

    1. bBerean profile image60
      bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I anticipate the next elections will be telling.

      1. LucidDreams profile image64
        LucidDreamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

        I am glad we can agree to disagree anyway! It's one thing to favor one party over the other based on views. That's American and I get it! No one person or party is right all of the time.

        What bothers me the most I think is, the media and most people keep calling us the most powerful and best country in the world. I would like to tjink this is true but as time passes, statistics show this is not the case. If we actually worked together for one purpose as a country again versus special interest., we could be what we claim to be!

        1. bBerean profile image60
          bBereanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          ...and with that we have total agreement.  Well done.  +1.  wink


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