What drives the "aggressively judgmental"?

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  1. PrettyPanther profile image86
    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

    "Aggressively judgmental" means those who spend an inordinate amount of time and energy focusing on people who have failed to achieve success, "success" as defined by the judgmental.  Specifically, the aggressively judgmental endlessly evaluate the personal characteristics of these "failures," inevitably finding them lacking in the superior qualities they themselves possess.

    What do you think drives this need to constantly judge the inadequacies of others?  Is it a need to feel superior? Do they "feel" pleased to be able to offer their insights about the personal failures of the economically disadvantaged?  Or, is it genuine concern and caring on their part?  Do they "feel" kind and compassionate as they are engaging in the umpteenth screed about the indolent, unmotivated, and obviously ungrateful poor?  Do they "feel" like contributors when they point fingers at the unemployed, the homeless, the academically challenged. the emotionally weak?

    What drives them?  What say you?

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      ...what drives them is the political ideal of enabling individual adults who are expected to contributie to the whole but are not.
      What about non-contributors, PP? are you worried about those who are unwilling to contribute to the whole and only take from the whole… even if they are able to contribute?
      I wonder if these types are a problem, say in France, where the taxes are high.
      ...or are "these types" a myth?

      1. gmwilliams profile image85
        gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, there ARE clearly those who refuse to help themselves but wait upon others to support them.  There are those who are generationally on the socioeconomic dole to which our tax dollars support.  They expect society to owe them a livelihood.  That is the epitome of sloth, Kathryn.  Pure, unadulterated sloth and people are getting to be incensed over this.  Why should hard earned tax dollars go to those who WON'T help themselves?  People are beginning to see such poor as excess and we all know historically how societies usually deal with excess!

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
          Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          My question is are they rehab-able?
          I am not being judgmental. I am wondering if we can ever expect those who can contribute, but won't, to do so.
          I've heard you can live pretty darn well on welfare and food stamps, and we have to remember who is paying for welfare and food stamps:
          NOT THEM…  Stating this fact is not being judgmental. It is being realistic.
          The sad thing is, as some have already pointed out: the only way to change them is to stop sending them Welfare checks and stop issuing their Electronic Benefit Transfer cards. Then and only then will they be motivated to accomplish goals, such as learning appropriate self-chosen skills and earning a self-chosen living.

          As we compassionately say, some honestly need the help and we do not begrudge them. We are not pointing fingers at the "unemployed, the homeless, the academically challenged or the emotionally weak," unless they are using the system unfairly and not trying to alleviate their situation or help themselves.
          "Aggressively lazy" refers to those who will not try at all.

          1. Heard tell: Some have admitted to me that their relatives, (not them,) think anyone who does not work the system to their advantage is just plain stupid.
          2. Evidence: I saw a woman use her EBT card in the market and then hop in her shiny Mercedes in the parking lot.
          3. Face to face: We know the gov't has been pushing EBT card use. I know several people receiving this benefit but are quite capable of holding down jobs and earning their own food money.

          1. Credence2 profile image80
            Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I created the term Aggressively Lazy to describe those that will not try at all, arrogant in their demanding the  right to have the rest of us take care of them.  I do not look down on anyone, but I am infuritated by the aforementioned types. Certain people try to make it appear that many of us have it out for the poor. This is not true, many of us have been there.  This small subset of poor people are superbly arrogant. What is the source of this arrogance?

          2. gmwilliams profile image85
            gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! There are simply those who refuse to better themselves, preferring to use any available excuse for their dire socioeconomic conditioning due to poor choices.

        2. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          agree 10 to the 25th power.....

    2. Misty Bluge profile image60
      Misty Blugeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      From a clinical perspective low self worth or low self esteem. Generally people who are critical of others are unhappy with themselves and like bullies, they get a short term rise in their own self worth while putting others down. Short term is the operative word because the self importance quickly drops off until they do it again.

      1. Cgenaea profile image60
        Cgenaeaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 wink

      2. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        No one says that it is about ego or something out of a psychology book. It is just this simple, it is not fair for able bodied people to be on public assistance when so many work to survive. Who are these dispossed ones, that are to be the exception to every rule? You tell me that you will not work or take any effort to participate in your own survival yet you  demand assistance? There is a lot of babble here that is simply not warranted. It is about what is fair is fair, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Who and why with what proof is there as to allow for exceptions to these basic principles? I don't need to be on a psychologist couch to recognize that which is fair. My self worth is only tied up in treating all equally and impartially.

    3. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It is caring, Pretty Panther, because an attitude of turning a safety net into a hammock is going to doom Black People as a group and we cannot afford to take failing attitudes and concepts into the future.  We talk about the problems of a Baltimore and much of it is based upon a fundamental foundation of white supremacy in America. But, lazy people are never ready to take an opportunity even when the door is wide open. I am wise enough to attempt to change the adverse circumstances in life that I can change, instead of always whining about it being someone elses fault. There is a different in being arrogant and turning your nose to those less fortunate verses having these same turn their nose to you when you offer a helping hand. I guess that is one of my buttons, pet peeves as it were.

      We certainly need to get some air cleared on this topic.

      1. gmwilliams profile image85
        gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        THANK YOU Credence2, VERY WELL SAID.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
          Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          +2

  2. Kathryn L Hill profile image78
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    and on top of that, a social democracy literally breeds laziness!  It enables it!
    I think we are actually being judgmental of the system which produces this type of mentality by encouraging people to take the easy way out. Yes, it irks others who are working and
    BEING TAXED!
    Are we being stingy and judgmental?
    NO
    Are we identifying injustice?
    YES

  3. Cgenaea profile image60
    Cgenaeaposted 3 years ago

    I say that what drives them depends upon the person. I have personally talked to those who are so proud of themselves that they must shout loud, "See??? I'm MUCH better than you!"
    I have an aunt like that... she was SO busy pointing out the flaws and inadequacies of others, her own went unchecked...
    Once SHE was unemployed and pennyless, she moved in with my mom, and stayed, rent free (she and her crazy son, then her daughter one teen, one early 20's) and they all stayed rent/bill free for years. Her pride forced her to assume that my mother needed her more than she needed my mom. She mooched for years!!! But she felt entitled,  "That's my sister!!!"
    That job down at the plant had her feeling herself. When she let it go, it all went down hill. She was never the lowly salesclerk behind the counter, she felt she stood head and shoulders above, because she made more money, until she was....
    It's pride. It can also be insecurity deep seated. I know my aunt struggled inside with insecurity, way below the surface. Somewhat surpressed by the idea that she was the jelly on toast..

  4. colorfulone profile image84
    colorfuloneposted 3 years ago

    Several states are passing laws to require drug testing for welfare recipients. I checked on Snops and was delighted with the reports.

 
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