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Kathy Griifin

  1. PhoenixV profile image81
    PhoenixVposted 3 months ago

    The Sign Post up ahead. Next stop Liberal Exit USA.

    1. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Oh, witches like manifesting death in their liberal arts.  Its like they worship death.  Here's some comedy... Can we start burning witches to make American great again? 

      https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13551271.jpg

    2. promisem profile image95
      promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      A right-wing extremist just murdered two innocent men in Portland who were trying to protect a Muslim woman.

      How does that compare to Kathy Griffin?

      1. PhoenixV profile image81
        PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Kathy Griffin and her Kathy Griffin Beheading Video.  Bloody, gory, severed head prop.   No, not as bad as deranged murderer and Bernie supporter in Portland.

        Portland Deranged Murderer worse than Kathy Griffin Mock Beheading Images.

        It needed perspective.

        1. promisem profile image95
          promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Thank you.

          1. PhoenixV profile image81
            PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            You are welcome. Just thought of another one. Kathy Griffin Beheading Video not as bad as Auschwitz.

            1. PhoenixV profile image81
              PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Kathy Griffin Beheading Images.  Not as bad as contracting leprosy.  Itsa glass half empty thing.

              1. colorfulone profile image90
                colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Donald J. Trump‏ Verified account @realDonaldTrump  6 hours ago

                "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!"

                1. PhoenixV profile image81
                  PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  Liberal entertainment is not suitable for children.  Liberal entertainment ratings are skyrocketing in Mosul, though. So theres that.

            2. promisem profile image95
              promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Well, just when I thought you were being reasonable, you had to throw up on the conversation.

        2. Credence2 profile image86
          Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I read that this deranged killer in Portland was a Sanders supporter, but relative to the background and nature of Sanders and his program, that support was in name only. Everything he really believed was more in line with the Trump supporters, inconsistent with supporting Bernie.

  2. Live to Learn profile image82
    Live to Learnposted 3 months ago

    She's an idiot. 'Nough said.

    1. PhoenixV profile image81
      PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Is like someone dropped her on her head as a baby.  Someone wiped her server with like a cloth or something. A few charcoal briquettes short of a Spirit Cookout.

      1. colorfulone profile image90
        colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        THIS is progressive tolerance.
        THIS is what the Democrat Party stands for.
        If a conservative public figure did this to Obama, it would lead every nightly newscast.

        1. PhoenixV profile image81
          PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Probably desperate to distract Twitterverse from the non-robbery robbery theory. Whats the reward up to today?

        2. Aime F profile image85
          Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Oh my god stop it, 99% of liberals I've seen commenting on the photos think it was dumb and tasteless.  I certainly do.

          All it does, ultimately, is strengthen the divide because of course you guys are quick to pretend that some crappy thing Kathy Griffin does is representative of the rest of us.  Please try not to be so hysterical and understand that not everyone can be bunched into one group - liberals are guilty of doing this too, but aren't you guys always touting yourselves as the smart ones? How about you actually hold yourselves to those standards?

          1. promisem profile image95
            promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Well said.

        3. Author Cheryl profile image88
          Author Cherylposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Umm they made a statute of Obama and strung him up with a noose around his neck.

          1. ahorseback profile image48
            ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Who did ?   I never saw that one .

            1. colorfulone profile image90
              colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I have no doubt toward people saying they saw images of Obama strung up, doesn't surprise me.  Could have been anyone who created the images, unless someone actually takes credit and signs their name to it...its just an assumption. 

              CNN"s, Kathy Griffin brings it to a new level (inspired by ISIS beheadings?).  CNN has become the "CNN Terrorist" media.

              In the name of Liberal Arts, Infowars announced they will run a CNN / Griffin  T-shirts contest to rise to the occasion, using their own material against them.  Soft belly!  The winner will receive $200K. 
              Something like this shirt...
              https://www.infowarsstore.com/gear/appa … shirt.html
              (it is not an affiliate link)

              1. Aime F profile image85
                Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Pastor Terry Jones from Florida and Richard Piersol from Idaho, to name a couple. Not just assumptions, but people who proudly hung Obama effigies and put his decapitated head on a stake.

                1. ahorseback profile image48
                  ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  Total unknown fringe hyper- conservative flakes , Not mainstream conservatives or "unfunny " comedian celebs like Griffin  , quite a difference!

                  If Dennis Miller had that photo done with an  Obama head ; The entire republican party would have been hung at the gallows , Fact.

                  1. Aime F profile image85
                    Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    The difference of course being only exposure. The act and idea behind it is exactly the same.

                    Kathy Griffin is no more represantive of me than those "fringe hyper-conservative flakes" are of you. Do you not see that?

  3. Live to Learn profile image82
    Live to Learnposted 3 months ago

    This is a classic example of the difference between a conservative and a liberal. A conservative knows that this is inappropriate no matter which side of the table the politician sits on. A liberal doesn't appear to have the ability to understand that.

    1. Aime F profile image85
      Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Every once in a while you are perfectly reasonable and then you make posts like this and I get confused. Are you two different people posting under the same name or are you just having trouble deciding whether to be fair-minded or not?

      1. PhoenixV profile image81
        PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/donkey-kong-cross-tensions_171.jpg

        *slowly backs away from thread..

      2. Live to Learn profile image82
        Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Sorry. That was a cheap shot to get you guys who get classified as liberal into the discussion. This was a disgusting thing this woman did. I do know that had some right wing idiot done something like that to Obama or Hillary most conservatives would have immediately expressed outrage. I haven't seen much comment on this one.

        I'll be honest. I've always considered myself middle of the road, holding views which are both conservative and liberal; depending on how it benefits the most people in society by my perception. But this election cycle has caused the liberal side of the aisle to raise a very, very ugly head. It's left a very bad taste in my mouth. Credence's post is a prime example.

        1. Aime F profile image85
          Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I understand. Though to be fair I do believe if Hillary had won you'd be saying the same thing about conservatives. This election was bringing out the worst in people in a way I've never seen before. I get frustrated with my 'own people' sometimes, too... Kathy Griffin being a good example of that recently. I also hated what Madonna said about blowing up the White House.

          Twitter is really my go-to when it comes to social media/discussion platforms and a vast majority of liberals (and people in general) are saying what Kathy Griffin did was inappropriate and are pissed that she just made us all look bad.

          1. ahorseback profile image48
            ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Last line ; I think  that it didn't take much .

            1. Aime F profile image85
              Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              You really can't help yourself, can you?

          2. Live to Learn profile image82
            Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            I suppose I would be rolling my eyes at radical conservatives had Hillary won. I rolled my eyes at them when Obama was in office. But, as much as I despise Hillary Clinton I would not stoop to such had she won.

        2. promisem profile image95
          promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          With all due respect, you may consider yourself middle of the road, but the great majority of your comments are well onto the right side of the aisle.

          My comment is meant as an observation and not a criticism.

          1. Live to Learn profile image82
            Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Well, me being well onto the right side of the aisle is your perception. Not mine. I suppose I'm left of center but, well into the right?  Really? What do you consider to be far right? Anyone who is to the right of you?

            1. colorfulone profile image90
              colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I see you as a free spirit.

              1. Live to Learn profile image82
                Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                I see myself as a slave to the system I'd like to see broken but, thanks.

                1. PhoenixV profile image81
                  PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  I see myself as a liberal conservative. Believe it or not I have a poster of Hillary in my den, above the etagere where I keep my action figures. Just because I come across as a rational and tolerant conservative does not mean I will tolerate Kathy Griffin beheading Videos or msm propaganda.

                  1. colorfulone profile image90
                    colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    This poster? 
                    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13552714.jpg

            2. promisem profile image95
              promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Sarcasm duly noted. I meant it as an honest observation. For the record:

              1. I have voted for many more Republicans than Democrats in my life.

              2. You assume my intolerance of extremists who spread fake news via anonymous blogs automatically makes me a liberal. Intolerance of them has nothing to do with my political beliefs.

              3. Since you seem ready to start another personal argument, I will say my observation of you is based on the number of your attacks on Democrats and liberals, although there are some exceptions.

              You often post fairly intelligent and reasonable comments. But every now and then, as some people have noted, you start ripping away, especially if you think it has anything even slightly negative to do with you.

              1. Live to Learn profile image82
                Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                I do, truly, wish I could return the compliment but I don't read a whole lot of your posts and this one is typical of what I've seen. Judgmental, like your item number 2 which I have no idea how you came up with. And, a little touchy, as noted by your insisting I am looking for a personal argument. You addressed me so I don't see where I am attempting to pick a fight.

                I do call to task when I think someone is being unfair in their assessments. I do accept that I am, at times, unfair in mine. I do attempt to rethink where needed and will adjust my opinion when new and relevant facts are presented. Facts mind you. Opinions are simply that.

                1. promisem profile image95
                  promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  There is no longer any doubt in my mind that I perceive you more clearly than you perceive yourself.

    2. promisem profile image95
      promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Case in point ...

      1. Live to Learn profile image82
        Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        lol  Had you noticed this had already been addressed and I pointed out it was a jab specifically designed to bring you guys into the discussion.

        1. promisem profile image95
          promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          I noticed it previously and clearly meant my comment as an addition to my post above. You were backpedaling. smile

  4. ahorseback profile image48
    ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

    Oh don't forget people , this is the lefts "Free Speech ",media    Yes , One picture of Bill OReilly  holding a bloody Obama head ?  The left would have a total and complete mental emotional meltdown .  Bill Oreilly  would be sentenced to life in prison and hung ,   Fox News would be banished to Siberia .
    But the left is just enjoying and employing the first amendment  ?

    Naked Hypocrisy .

  5. Credence2 profile image86
    Credence2posted 3 months ago

    Don't get your drawers in a bunch, boys and girls, it is just TV. I have seen as much outrageous depictions regarding President Obama during his term so spare me the BS that 'conservatives don't do that sort of thing' schtick.

    You better be worried about the 'real stuff' where he is vulnerable.

    1. PhoenixV profile image81
      PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      2 ScoopsGate?

      1. Credence2 profile image86
        Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Like I have always said, Phoenix, we will get him. It will take time, while we cannot talk about a actual decapitation, we can sure wait for him to do it to himself, politically.

    2. Live to Learn profile image82
      Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      Well, for sure. We all saw depictions of Obama lynched or beheaded. I remember them all, so well.

      Not.

      1. ahorseback profile image48
        ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        NOT !    absolutely correct .++++++++++++++++

      2. Credence2 profile image86
        Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Well, I have seen such depictions of Obama from early Tea Party protests. The conservatives are just as loathsome  in their behavior and it disgusts me that you dare consider yourselves as operating from a higher plane.

        So, that is MY case in point. You, like most conservatives, look only where you want to see.

        1. Live to Learn profile image82
          Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Well, I've seen the picture of Kathy and her severed head. Offer up evidence to support your opinion and I'll gladly rethink mine. I'm afraid I haven't seen these images you claim exist.

          But, let's think about it also. If these are sleazy images someone posted on Face book that is not quite the same as a D list celebrity. That gets more coverage. We all know the world has its share of assholes so the lone asshole posting a picture 10 people might view isn't quite the same.

          1. Credence2 profile image86
            Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

            Alright, your point is well taken, this entire affair involving Kathy was in bad taste. My problem with you is that you think that conservatives can't and don't do this stuff. I include your alt-right buddies as part of your group.

            1. Live to Learn profile image82
              Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Goodness, Credence. If you and I have to lay claim to every idiot God ever created we are doomed.

              There will always be those so far on the fringe that neither you, or I, need claim affiliation. Lone wolves, so to speak. Snoop Dog, Kathy and others in the entertainment industry should be chastised when they overstep the bounds of decency in the name of making a political statement. If not, one can only assume those who are in a position to chastise are in agreement.

              1. Credence2 profile image86
                Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

                Well, said, OK....

                1. ahorseback profile image48
                  ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

                  Credence your comparisons are simply BS. .....    Joe Wilson , one idiot unruly republican politician  in dire lack of professional political manners  does not even begin to equal the   -opposite -An entire liberal ideology and  media in obstructionist pose with every outside influence involved ?  Quite a different picture . " I take more offence at Joe Wilson ......." you must not haveany  impressionable youth in your mix , .....the comparison is not even ethically or morally close.

                  Anthony Scalia ;    How many times has the left opposed the same  appointments ?

                  Sad part is , the left has declared war against all and any moral  decency in this new-- left movement ,  they are moving everyone , left -center and right towards the same actions as their own too, IMHO , Not since the revolutionary and civil war violence  has an ideology and a biased media   worked so hard  as to incite  something very ,very dark  ,as they are today .   Their youth are brainwashed to entitlements ,  their education system has prepared  this for decades , just listen to a school age twelve  year old offspring recite the going mantras of the left aboutthe rights of  free health care   , free education ,free this , free that ,........

                  Here's the thing and   none of it is important as this  ,  it's all based upon lies ,  The deception of a youth, any youth ,  almost always leads to violence in the streets and  It's here isn't it ?    Black masks ,  clubs , bricks and  bottles ,college minds , revolution always begins in the campus and ends in the trenches .     But the real question , How long before the right reacts ?   How long before the right  even begins to raise its back against such mindless ,  leftist drivel to say " Enough "?

                  1. Credence2 profile image86
                    Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

                    BS, huh? Joe Wilson represented the conservative movement or did you forget the adulation the man got from the Tea Party, Fox and the Conservatives. Joe Wilson is a fine representative for you and your rightwinged buddies. Have you conveniently forgotten this? You have been born yesterday, but I certainly wasn't. It was the GOP and conservatives that have invented the concept of obstruction and shutting down the government like toddlers when they can't have their way. I know that, too. I think that the comparison is spot on.
                    ------------------------------------
                    'Anthony Scalia ;    How many times has the left opposed the same  appointments ?
                    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    But for the Senate Majority leader to openly state that partisan obstruction is the deliberate goal is a new low. And to carry on this nonsense for months?

                    Yes, the progressives are coming after the Right and will exert its influence through all legal and ethical means. I stand in the front lines of this struggle, to keep your clowns away from political power, using every mechanism provided with the confines of American law. You guys always used the biased media stuff as a diversion from the fact that you wish to conceal the truth, and you know what, you always have. The entire media and the whole world is against you? Perhaps, you have earned it. As for your opinion, I hear you, but we can never see eye to eye on many concepts. Twelve year old parroting left wing propaganda? Are you hearing things, just like your big Kahuna, Donald Trump?

                    The Right's reaction is to find an excuse to stifle dissent from the other side. There has not been that much trouble from student protesters. Rightwingers simply do not want any form of protest at all. But that is not going to happen. As for the Right raising its back reaction,  I say 'bring it'. Everyone will get to see your true nature and recoil at its discovery.

          2. Aime F profile image85
            Aime Fposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            But is that fair?

            Is Kathy Griffin really any more representative of millions of people than some random guy from Idaho, or Florida, or ___? They both only have one vote. They're both only one person capable of making their own decisions apart from anyone else. Perhaps it makes Kathy Griffin herself worse than some random guy because she knows she has a platform, but is the action itself really any different?

            http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/10/17/ … bama-head/
            edit, here's an article with a photo: http://toprightnews.com/halloween-displ … ated-head/

            https://www.google.ca/amp/www.theblaze. … -yard/amp/

            And if you search for "burning" and/or "hanging Obama in effigy" you'll find a dozen more.

            1. PhoenixV profile image81
              PhoenixVposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I have to agree and will go a step further a say Kathy Griffin is less relevant than some random guy in Idaho and has always been that way.

            2. Live to Learn profile image82
              Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              I will say that I am always surprised when people take celebrity opinions on politics with more than a grain of salt. We pay them to entertain us, so in that sense you are right. They are just one citizen voicing one opinion.

              But, we both know that even a D list celebrity opinion carries more weight than the opinion of the average anonymous citizen. In that sense they should be held accountable to a different standard.

      3. promisem profile image95
        promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Case in point ...

        1. Live to Learn profile image82
          Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          lol

          Your point?

          My point is that I have never seen a picture of Obama being depicted in the manner Griffin did, by anyone in the entertainment industry or in a position to have their sick senses of humor showcased in the entertainment media. So, if you have a valid point, please provide proof. As I stated, personal opinions don't count for much. This is why I don't read your posts unless they are attempting to pick a fight with me.

          1. promisem profile image95
            promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

            It should be obvious that I'm noting your consistent hostility toward the left despite claims otherwise.

            Regarding a fight:

            Me: "My comment is meant as an observation and not a criticism."

            You: " Really? What do you consider to be far right? Anyone who is to the right of you."

            Is that what you call me picking a fight with you?

            1. Live to Learn profile image82
              Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

              Actually, I ignore your posts. For the most part. I'm scratching my head as to why you don't ignore mine. Seems they set you off in a 'chase her around and poke at her' kind of way. How many threads are we hijacking at the moment? Bet it's a record.

              My comments are meant as observations, also. You perceive them as criticism; as do I your comments. We don't see eye to eye. Either way. I am simply disappointed in the left. They appear to be stooping to the tactics of the right prior to the change of power. It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the interests of we, the people.

  6. abwilliams profile image84
    abwilliamsposted 3 months ago

    I must have missed "as much outrageous depictions"....
    Which Conservative was responsible? I'll boycott them in a heartbeat.

    1. Credence2 profile image86
      Credence2posted 3 months ago in reply to this

      You did miss them? They can be resurrected quite easily with a simple google inquiry.

  7. ahorseback profile image48
    ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

    Her apology is as phony as her talent !
    One more  morally prostituted , attention freak. .

    1. Live to Learn profile image82
      Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      The fact that she wasn't bright enough to understand how inappropriate that was in the first place speaks volumes about here.

      1. ahorseback profile image48
        ahorsebackposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        Fox for one actually shows a video of her preparing this , high fiving her son or someone!
        Her talents and appearances must have been dying ?

        Might as well drum up business somehow .

        1. Live to Learn profile image82
          Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Honestly, drumming up business was probably a large part of the push behind her actions. But, I've been more and more disheartened by the vitriol the left wing entertainment industry has displayed.

      2. promisem profile image95
        promisemposted 3 months ago in reply to this

        I would say come to your own understanding of Christ's teachings and live as closely as possible to that understanding. Don't worry about what others do (whether Christian or otherwise) but stay true to your own understanding.

        1. Live to Learn profile image82
          Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

          Sorry. Holding a bloodied and severed head is quite disconcerting. If you think it is the work of an intelligent, rational and considerate woman; I'll take your word for it that you do. I don't.

  8. Credence2 profile image86
    Credence2posted 3 months ago

    As for Kathy Griffin, her act, while offensive, is no more significant than the political cartoons I read daily.

    I take much more offense at Joe Wilson, a representative from South Carolina, who in Sept, 2009 interrupted President Obama's address to Congress by calling him a liar. He, afterwards, was coronated by the Tea Party, Fox News and Conservatives in general as a reward for this rude outside of decorum behavior.

    I take Offense at the GOP deliberately denying President Obama his Constitutional Right to fill the vacant seat left by the dear departed Antonio Scalia.

    In the face of these real affronts, why am I to be disturbed excessively about cartoons?

    1. Live to Learn profile image82
      Live to Learnposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      I agree on everything except for Obama's 'constitutional right' to fill a seat on the Supreme Court. Either party would fight tooth and nail to stop a choice made by a lame duck president when they knew their party was about to take the White House. That's politics, not personal.

  9. ahorseback profile image48
    ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

    The Liberals all  cry ;

    " She's a comedian " and " free speech"........really ,  seems like a neurotic  wanna be to me .   Poor baby girl just was released from CNN ?  OMG ,...... I might just listen to CNN  one more time to see if there's a hope they  might pull out of their downward spiral .

    Someone explain to me the humor in her picture ?

  10. ahorseback profile image48
    ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

    The absolutely and vile hatred of Trump from the left is well represented  by Griffin's photo- shopping ,  Its also absolutely revealing as to how they feel  as they emotionally "debate " this style of  politics.
    Now the left says " Nothing To see Here "?

    But , Kinda sorta  Toooo late people !

  11. PhoenixV profile image81
    PhoenixVposted 3 months ago

    https://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/3ba521f9-7f58-48e8-8a18-7048bd940b9e/1c3c8303-8422-4051-99d6-9be7f092e1ec.jpg

    She apologized. But was it sincere?

    1. colorfulone profile image90
      colorfuloneposted 3 months ago in reply to this

      She?  Um, don't ask, don't tell?  Sincere acting?
      One screwed up person in the head either way. 
      Seems like the far-left is a death cult manifesting more and more.

  12. PhoenixV profile image81
    PhoenixVposted 3 months ago

    IDK. She apologized. Who hasn"t gossipped? Who among us hasn't fibbed a little. Taken an extra donut from the breakroom on Pastry Tuesdays?  Made a bloody ISIS recruitment beheading video reminiscent of Jihad John? We all make mistakes.

  13. PhoenixV profile image81
    PhoenixVposted 3 months ago

    http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/008/067/COLLEGE-LIBERAL.jpg

    Griffin lawyered up and is now the VICTIM. Suupprize

    The tears on the apology hadnt even had time to dry yet.

  14. ahorseback profile image48
    ahorsebackposted 3 months ago

    A,B,C, D,  AND all the rest !    " A nothing burger" .........keep on keepin on though , You absolutely remind me of a few years ago living in an east coast city , Flat as a pancake , Watching people round a curve by my house in the winter time  and starting uphill on the only incline in the city .     

    All the liberal professors leaving the college campus  in Volvo's and Saab's  spinning their tires at maximum RPM trying to climb the  icy hill !

    Same liberal obstructionist  driving , going no where fast !

  15. Onusonus profile image85
    Onusonusposted 3 months ago

    Well looks like Kathy Griffin is in hot water again. Now she is being sued by ISIS for cultural appropriation.
    http://www.duffelblog.com/2017/06/kathy … ropriation

 
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