Oh, witches like manifesting death in their liberal arts. Its like they worship death. Here's some comedy... Can we start burning witches to make American great again?
A right-wing extremist just murdered two innocent men in Portland who were trying to protect a Muslim woman.
How does that compare to Kathy Griffin?
Kathy Griffin and her Kathy Griffin Beheading Video. Bloody, gory, severed head prop. No, not as bad as deranged murderer and Bernie supporter in Portland.
Portland Deranged Murderer worse than Kathy Griffin Mock Beheading Images.
It needed perspective.
You are welcome. Just thought of another one. Kathy Griffin Beheading Video not as bad as Auschwitz.
Kathy Griffin Beheading Images. Not as bad as contracting leprosy. Itsa glass half empty thing.
Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6 hours ago
"Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!"
Well, just when I thought you were being reasonable, you had to throw up on the conversation.
I read that this deranged killer in Portland was a Sanders supporter, but relative to the background and nature of Sanders and his program, that support was in name only. Everything he really believed was more in line with the Trump supporters, inconsistent with supporting Bernie.
Is like someone dropped her on her head as a baby. Someone wiped her server with like a cloth or something. A few charcoal briquettes short of a Spirit Cookout.
THIS is progressive tolerance.
THIS is what the Democrat Party stands for.
If a conservative public figure did this to Obama, it would lead every nightly newscast.
Probably desperate to distract Twitterverse from the non-robbery robbery theory. Whats the reward up to today?
Oh my god stop it, 99% of liberals I've seen commenting on the photos think it was dumb and tasteless. I certainly do.
All it does, ultimately, is strengthen the divide because of course you guys are quick to pretend that some crappy thing Kathy Griffin does is representative of the rest of us. Please try not to be so hysterical and understand that not everyone can be bunched into one group - liberals are guilty of doing this too, but aren't you guys always touting yourselves as the smart ones? How about you actually hold yourselves to those standards?
Umm they made a statute of Obama and strung him up with a noose around his neck.
I have no doubt toward people saying they saw images of Obama strung up, doesn't surprise me. Could have been anyone who created the images, unless someone actually takes credit and signs their name to it...its just an assumption.
CNN"s, Kathy Griffin brings it to a new level (inspired by ISIS beheadings?). CNN has become the "CNN Terrorist" media.
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Pastor Terry Jones from Florida and Richard Piersol from Idaho, to name a couple. Not just assumptions, but people who proudly hung Obama effigies and put his decapitated head on a stake.
Total unknown fringe hyper- conservative flakes , Not mainstream conservatives or "unfunny " comedian celebs like Griffin , quite a difference!
If Dennis Miller had that photo done with an Obama head ; The entire republican party would have been hung at the gallows , Fact.
The difference of course being only exposure. The act and idea behind it is exactly the same.
Kathy Griffin is no more represantive of me than those "fringe hyper-conservative flakes" are of you. Do you not see that?
I'd love to believe that liberals felt that way , But ........the proof is in the fact that CNN actually severed ties with your "Comedy Queen " , while the Dennis Millers of our right are actually funny without the Kathy Griffin moron- factor !
CNN, That's the CNN you know the supposedly neutral news network . It was funny and fair to them until the common decency factor kicked them in the A$$ and they saw $ signs going down the tubes.
...maybe the proof should be in the fact that most liberals don't think it was funny and that it crossed a line?
I'm really not sure why the fact that Kathy Griffin worked for CNN says more to you about liberals than literally what liberals themselves are saying, but I stopped trying to understand your rationale a long time ago.
For the record I actually had no idea that Kathy Griffin was a part of CNN or that she was even still relevant at all. I've never in my life heard anyone compliment her on her comedy or anything else.
The simple fact that CNN carried , supports and pays someone like her is enough to tell me of their bias , as if I couldn't already know theirs , You would not see that kind of a support for such blasphemy on a conservative news front . Show me one picture and THAT monetary support like Griffins on Fox , or Breitbart news , for that matter .
CNN also carries, supports and pay for David Gergen, a presidential counselor for Nixon, Ford and Reagan.
I guess that means CNN has a right-wing bias.
I saw a Fox News headline that Griffin was fired. One can hope!
Franklin Graham, "I work with Christians whose family members have been decapitated. This woman is sick and disgusting. May God bless our President, Donald J. Trump, and his family and protect them from all evil." - amen to that!
God protect us all from such evil.
Apparently CNN had her on some $ retainer for her entertaining comedy , Have you seen the video of her high fiving when she made the video ? Sick.
But I'm not talking about CNN, I'm talking about a majority of liberals who have spoken up and said they didn't find this particular stunt to be funny or appropriate. Therefore it's unfair to carry on like her actions represent us as a whole. Whether or not people liked her before, I don't know, but people you like can still do things that disappoint you or that you don't agree with. Having something in common with someone or supporting them in general doesn't mean you should be held accountable for their actions or that you support everything they do.
This is a classic example of the difference between a conservative and a liberal. A conservative knows that this is inappropriate no matter which side of the table the politician sits on. A liberal doesn't appear to have the ability to understand that.
Every once in a while you are perfectly reasonable and then you make posts like this and I get confused. Are you two different people posting under the same name or are you just having trouble deciding whether to be fair-minded or not?
Sorry. That was a cheap shot to get you guys who get classified as liberal into the discussion. This was a disgusting thing this woman did. I do know that had some right wing idiot done something like that to Obama or Hillary most conservatives would have immediately expressed outrage. I haven't seen much comment on this one.
I'll be honest. I've always considered myself middle of the road, holding views which are both conservative and liberal; depending on how it benefits the most people in society by my perception. But this election cycle has caused the liberal side of the aisle to raise a very, very ugly head. It's left a very bad taste in my mouth. Credence's post is a prime example.
I understand. Though to be fair I do believe if Hillary had won you'd be saying the same thing about conservatives. This election was bringing out the worst in people in a way I've never seen before. I get frustrated with my 'own people' sometimes, too... Kathy Griffin being a good example of that recently. I also hated what Madonna said about blowing up the White House.
Twitter is really my go-to when it comes to social media/discussion platforms and a vast majority of liberals (and people in general) are saying what Kathy Griffin did was inappropriate and are pissed that she just made us all look bad.
Last line ; I think that it didn't take much .
I suppose I would be rolling my eyes at radical conservatives had Hillary won. I rolled my eyes at them when Obama was in office. But, as much as I despise Hillary Clinton I would not stoop to such had she won.
With all due respect, you may consider yourself middle of the road, but the great majority of your comments are well onto the right side of the aisle.
My comment is meant as an observation and not a criticism.
Well, me being well onto the right side of the aisle is your perception. Not mine. I suppose I'm left of center but, well into the right? Really? What do you consider to be far right? Anyone who is to the right of you?
I see myself as a slave to the system I'd like to see broken but, thanks.
I see myself as a liberal conservative. Believe it or not I have a poster of Hillary in my den, above the etagere where I keep my action figures. Just because I come across as a rational and tolerant conservative does not mean I will tolerate Kathy Griffin beheading Videos or msm propaganda.
Sarcasm duly noted. I meant it as an honest observation. For the record:
1. I have voted for many more Republicans than Democrats in my life.
2. You assume my intolerance of extremists who spread fake news via anonymous blogs automatically makes me a liberal. Intolerance of them has nothing to do with my political beliefs.
3. Since you seem ready to start another personal argument, I will say my observation of you is based on the number of your attacks on Democrats and liberals, although there are some exceptions.
You often post fairly intelligent and reasonable comments. But every now and then, as some people have noted, you start ripping away, especially if you think it has anything even slightly negative to do with you.
I do, truly, wish I could return the compliment but I don't read a whole lot of your posts and this one is typical of what I've seen. Judgmental, like your item number 2 which I have no idea how you came up with. And, a little touchy, as noted by your insisting I am looking for a personal argument. You addressed me so I don't see where I am attempting to pick a fight.
I do call to task when I think someone is being unfair in their assessments. I do accept that I am, at times, unfair in mine. I do attempt to rethink where needed and will adjust my opinion when new and relevant facts are presented. Facts mind you. Opinions are simply that.
Had you noticed this had already been addressed and I pointed out it was a jab specifically designed to bring you guys into the discussion.
Oh don't forget people , this is the lefts "Free Speech ",media Yes , One picture of Bill OReilly holding a bloody Obama head ? The left would have a total and complete mental emotional meltdown . Bill Oreilly would be sentenced to life in prison and hung , Fox News would be banished to Siberia .
But the left is just enjoying and employing the first amendment ?
Naked Hypocrisy .
Don't get your drawers in a bunch, boys and girls, it is just TV. I have seen as much outrageous depictions regarding President Obama during his term so spare me the BS that 'conservatives don't do that sort of thing' schtick.
You better be worried about the 'real stuff' where he is vulnerable.
Well, for sure. We all saw depictions of Obama lynched or beheaded. I remember them all, so well.
Well, I have seen such depictions of Obama from early Tea Party protests. The conservatives are just as loathsome in their behavior and it disgusts me that you dare consider yourselves as operating from a higher plane.
So, that is MY case in point. You, like most conservatives, look only where you want to see.
Well, I've seen the picture of Kathy and her severed head. Offer up evidence to support your opinion and I'll gladly rethink mine. I'm afraid I haven't seen these images you claim exist.
But, let's think about it also. If these are sleazy images someone posted on Face book that is not quite the same as a D list celebrity. That gets more coverage. We all know the world has its share of assholes so the lone asshole posting a picture 10 people might view isn't quite the same.
Alright, your point is well taken, this entire affair involving Kathy was in bad taste. My problem with you is that you think that conservatives can't and don't do this stuff. I include your alt-right buddies as part of your group.
Goodness, Credence. If you and I have to lay claim to every idiot God ever created we are doomed.
There will always be those so far on the fringe that neither you, or I, need claim affiliation. Lone wolves, so to speak. Snoop Dog, Kathy and others in the entertainment industry should be chastised when they overstep the bounds of decency in the name of making a political statement. If not, one can only assume those who are in a position to chastise are in agreement.
Credence your comparisons are simply BS. ..... Joe Wilson , one idiot unruly republican politician in dire lack of professional political manners does not even begin to equal the -opposite -An entire liberal ideology and media in obstructionist pose with every outside influence involved ? Quite a different picture . " I take more offence at Joe Wilson ......." you must not haveany impressionable youth in your mix , .....the comparison is not even ethically or morally close.
Anthony Scalia ; How many times has the left opposed the same appointments ?
Sad part is , the left has declared war against all and any moral decency in this new-- left movement , they are moving everyone , left -center and right towards the same actions as their own too, IMHO , Not since the revolutionary and civil war violence has an ideology and a biased media worked so hard as to incite something very ,very dark ,as they are today . Their youth are brainwashed to entitlements , their education system has prepared this for decades , just listen to a school age twelve year old offspring recite the going mantras of the left aboutthe rights of free health care , free education ,free this , free that ,........
Here's the thing and none of it is important as this , it's all based upon lies , The deception of a youth, any youth , almost always leads to violence in the streets and It's here isn't it ? Black masks , clubs , bricks and bottles ,college minds , revolution always begins in the campus and ends in the trenches . But the real question , How long before the right reacts ? How long before the right even begins to raise its back against such mindless , leftist drivel to say " Enough "?
BS, huh? Joe Wilson represented the conservative movement or did you forget the adulation the man got from the Tea Party, Fox and the Conservatives. Joe Wilson is a fine representative for you and your rightwinged buddies. Have you conveniently forgotten this? You have been born yesterday, but I certainly wasn't. It was the GOP and conservatives that have invented the concept of obstruction and shutting down the government like toddlers when they can't have their way. I know that, too. I think that the comparison is spot on.
'Anthony Scalia ; How many times has the left opposed the same appointments ?
But for the Senate Majority leader to openly state that partisan obstruction is the deliberate goal is a new low. And to carry on this nonsense for months?
Yes, the progressives are coming after the Right and will exert its influence through all legal and ethical means. I stand in the front lines of this struggle, to keep your clowns away from political power, using every mechanism provided with the confines of American law. You guys always used the biased media stuff as a diversion from the fact that you wish to conceal the truth, and you know what, you always have. The entire media and the whole world is against you? Perhaps, you have earned it. As for your opinion, I hear you, but we can never see eye to eye on many concepts. Twelve year old parroting left wing propaganda? Are you hearing things, just like your big Kahuna, Donald Trump?
The Right's reaction is to find an excuse to stifle dissent from the other side. There has not been that much trouble from student protesters. Rightwingers simply do not want any form of protest at all. But that is not going to happen. As for the Right raising its back reaction, I say 'bring it'. Everyone will get to see your true nature and recoil at its discovery.
Wow , I stand humbled , you are right , but hey , as stated , You don't know what you are saying !
is all okay over there in liberal la la land ?
Credence, I thought I would comment on this part. The left is doing just that. Showing its true nature and it is not a pretty one. Sooner or later both ends will have to realize that having their way is not in the best interests of the American people. Compromise is what we need. And we need it sooner rather than later.
Such are the times, a less contentious ideological divide was to be found in the ever more distant past. I don't know that we can ever get there, finding common ground, as I take issue with Trump and the entire political Right on virtually every topic and see little to redeem them. You and the conservatives, and you are conservative, see otherwise. There is going to be a struggle, it is unavoidable. Letshope that the combatants uses the weapons of politics, debates and persuasion. We need to keep it peaceful, but there can be no Kumbaya at this time.
No kumbaya? Goody. It seems such a Namby Pamby song to me.
It's funny I'm labeled conservative here because absolutely no one I discuss politics with face to face labels me such. Although communicating in person is easier because compromise is the goal. Common ground is what good and decent people desire. The left can't have their cake and eat it too. The right can't refuse to bake the cake. But what those of you adamantly insisting you can (both sides) refuse to consider is that having your own way disenfranchises a large percentage of our population.
We have got to calm down, as a nation, and find the compromise that is in the best interest of this generation and those to come.
I say that you are conservative based on your take on the issues which i have had time to observe and comment on. Everybody wants to get along, but we have to respect that we have completely different approaches to what government is and how it is to be run. If senator Sanders can find any 'common ground' to share with Trump and his people, then I can as well.
I have had time to see what Trump intends to do and there is no moderation in any of his programs or approach. He tells the GOP dominated Senate to use the "nuclear option" changing passing votes to a simply majority so that he can get his insane budget requests through. He does not think about the fact that, given the slim GOP majority in Congress, that if the GOP changes the rules now the Democrats will certainly use that if they recover the majority, shutting the GOP out when the table turns. This man is not about moderation or compromise, why should I make the dire mistake of giving him the benefit of the doubt?
Have you forgotten the democrats were first to use this 'nuclear option'?
I'm for peace, no war. I'm for a reasonable national health care program. I'm pro choice. Jeez. What does a person have to do to be considered a moderate? Dress like a man and demand access to other bathrooms? Throw rocks at passing vehicles and claim it's just a protest? Demand free speech only applies to those who agree with me? I'm dying for an answer.
This true, but so many. Conservative are saying that the democrats now need to grow up and get over it whilst the GOP have been behaving like philistines throughout Obama's term and nothing was said by them during this time.
A moderate conservative is like looking for a living Tyrannosaurus rex.
I loathe Trump but I am a moderate. I say people have the right to peaceably assemble in protest. Relative to Trump, there are no democrat moderates. He is the very antithesis of everything we believe in. Just like the conservative champion,Rush Limbaugh, condemned the newly elected Obama to failure hardly weeks into his administration. Why would people say that I am not a moderate, there is no one center left or otherwise that would give Trump the time of day?
In all fairness to you, there are many to your right that are quite ademant and dangerous for a free and open society.
I'm afraid I view those such as yourself as dangerous to a free and open society because rhetoric such as yours makes it very clear there is no room for compromise. Your way or the highway. Doesn't sounds democratic or free, to me.
And, yes. The left does need to grow up. Neither side is going to sway the majority of Americans to follow them in unwavering loyalty. No side will maintain power in Washington indefinitely. Are we to be ham strung forever by your (left and right) constant bickering, pouting when out of power and gloating when in? Never taking into account the citizens who want a government with maturity and common sense which actually accomplishes more than grandstanding?
"Never taking into account the citizens who want a government with maturity and common sense which actually accomplishes more than grandstanding?"
Unfortunately, what that means to conservatives is not the same as what that means to us, so the result is gridlock.
When the GOP dominated congress and executive move away from the right andmore toward the center to show more than lip service to the idea of compromise, then we will talk.
Obama's idea's of One World government ,is not" mature and common sense", our economy , our environmental excellence , our workplace safety , OUR borders , our national security , our economic livelihood is OURS to dictate and not the rest of the world's , AND it is that simple .
The lesson to liberals , THIS is what it feels like to have an OBAMA ideology that, not just ignores but totally ignores ,the voices of the other half of America - How does that feel in return ?
"Obama's idea's of One World government ,is not" mature and common sense", our economy , our environmental excellence , our workplace safety , OUR borders , our national security , our economic livelihood is OURS to dictate and not the rest of the world's , AND it is that simple"
Those ideas only exist within the delusionary rightwinger thinking process.
As for your second paragraph, that why we fight and are NOT going to get along. Our strategy and tactics working toward those very ends.
Sorry, I've only got one thing for you , WHHHAAAaaaaaaaant .....
We have got more in store for you and your clown-king. Just stay tuned!!
I've seen some of the protesters and the costumes some of the protesters wear. What have they in store for us? Make us watch the Notebook or Sleepless in Seattle until we surrender?
a. I wouldn't jest if I were you, even Colorfulone referred to an upswing in coming protests. The resulting probable negative media and publicity are just going to detract from him and his administration just that much more. Far more adept and experienced politicians like Richard Nixon were brought down partially due to this.
b. I still think that Trump has his financial tentacles about the planet. There may well be some conflict of interest matters about divulging and divesting, in his role as POTUS verses maintenance of his financial empire. It may well rise to get the attention of the courts. Then we will see which way he will turn when presented with hard choices.
c. Internecine struggles between him and various wings of the party, may dilute the GOP juggernaut to the extent that they become weak enough to assault from the outside. This so called "deep state" crap will just become deep doo doo for Trump and all the rightwingers that insist on hanging on to his coattails.
So, as I say, you better hang on to your hat because he is going to give us an opening soon, he is too dumb not to.
I've been hearing that Soros is funding groups to riot in like 140 different cities starting July 2nd thru the 4th of July. Its suppose to be posted on some far-left website, I haven't researched it myself. Its suppose to be a part of the Resistance Movement or Purple Revolution, something like that. I'm far removed from any large cities, but I am concerned for people who live in danger zones...if, or when it hits the fan.
I will give this the proper attention when you have the proof to back up your assertion.
I've been hearing Trump is orange because he eats crayons--orange ones are his fave. I've been hearing....
They had their "Kumbaya". Lookie here, Kathy Griffin all happy for a photo shoot with the celebrity billionaire in 2010 at a golf event. Maybe she/it is an opportunist that needs attention.
But is that fair?
Is Kathy Griffin really any more representative of millions of people than some random guy from Idaho, or Florida, or ___? They both only have one vote. They're both only one person capable of making their own decisions apart from anyone else. Perhaps it makes Kathy Griffin herself worse than some random guy because she knows she has a platform, but is the action itself really any different?
http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/10/17/ … bama-head/
edit, here's an article with a photo: http://toprightnews.com/halloween-displ … ated-head/
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And if you search for "burning" and/or "hanging Obama in effigy" you'll find a dozen more.
I have to agree and will go a step further a say Kathy Griffin is less relevant than some random guy in Idaho and has always been that way.
I will say that I am always surprised when people take celebrity opinions on politics with more than a grain of salt. We pay them to entertain us, so in that sense you are right. They are just one citizen voicing one opinion.
But, we both know that even a D list celebrity opinion carries more weight than the opinion of the average anonymous citizen. In that sense they should be held accountable to a different standard.
My point is that I have never seen a picture of Obama being depicted in the manner Griffin did, by anyone in the entertainment industry or in a position to have their sick senses of humor showcased in the entertainment media. So, if you have a valid point, please provide proof. As I stated, personal opinions don't count for much. This is why I don't read your posts unless they are attempting to pick a fight with me.
It should be obvious that I'm noting your consistent hostility toward the left despite claims otherwise.
Regarding a fight:
Me: "My comment is meant as an observation and not a criticism."
You: " Really? What do you consider to be far right? Anyone who is to the right of you."
Is that what you call me picking a fight with you?
Actually, I ignore your posts. For the most part. I'm scratching my head as to why you don't ignore mine. Seems they set you off in a 'chase her around and poke at her' kind of way. How many threads are we hijacking at the moment? Bet it's a record.
My comments are meant as observations, also. You perceive them as criticism; as do I your comments. We don't see eye to eye. Either way. I am simply disappointed in the left. They appear to be stooping to the tactics of the right prior to the change of power. It serves no purpose and is detrimental to the interests of we, the people.
I must have missed "as much outrageous depictions"....
Which Conservative was responsible? I'll boycott them in a heartbeat.
Her apology is as phony as her talent !
One more morally prostituted , attention freak. .
The fact that she wasn't bright enough to understand how inappropriate that was in the first place speaks volumes about here.
Fox for one actually shows a video of her preparing this , high fiving her son or someone!
Her talents and appearances must have been dying ?
Might as well drum up business somehow .
I would say come to your own understanding of Christ's teachings and live as closely as possible to that understanding. Don't worry about what others do (whether Christian or otherwise) but stay true to your own understanding.
As for Kathy Griffin, her act, while offensive, is no more significant than the political cartoons I read daily.
I take much more offense at Joe Wilson, a representative from South Carolina, who in Sept, 2009 interrupted President Obama's address to Congress by calling him a liar. He, afterwards, was coronated by the Tea Party, Fox News and Conservatives in general as a reward for this rude outside of decorum behavior.
I take Offense at the GOP deliberately denying President Obama his Constitutional Right to fill the vacant seat left by the dear departed Antonio Scalia.
In the face of these real affronts, why am I to be disturbed excessively about cartoons?
I agree on everything except for Obama's 'constitutional right' to fill a seat on the Supreme Court. Either party would fight tooth and nail to stop a choice made by a lame duck president when they knew their party was about to take the White House. That's politics, not personal.
The Liberals all cry ;
" She's a comedian " and " free speech"........really , seems like a neurotic wanna be to me . Poor baby girl just was released from CNN ? OMG ,...... I might just listen to CNN one more time to see if there's a hope they might pull out of their downward spiral .
Someone explain to me the humor in her picture ?
The absolutely and vile hatred of Trump from the left is well represented by Griffin's photo- shopping , Its also absolutely revealing as to how they feel as they emotionally "debate " this style of politics.
Now the left says " Nothing To see Here "?
But , Kinda sorta Toooo late people !
IDK. She apologized. Who hasn"t gossipped? Who among us hasn't fibbed a little. Taken an extra donut from the breakroom on Pastry Tuesdays? Made a bloody ISIS recruitment beheading video reminiscent of Jihad John? We all make mistakes.
Griffin lawyered up and is now the VICTIM. Suupprize
The tears on the apology hadnt even had time to dry yet.
A,B,C, D, AND all the rest ! " A nothing burger" .........keep on keepin on though , You absolutely remind me of a few years ago living in an east coast city , Flat as a pancake , Watching people round a curve by my house in the winter time and starting uphill on the only incline in the city .
All the liberal professors leaving the college campus in Volvo's and Saab's spinning their tires at maximum RPM trying to climb the icy hill !
Same liberal obstructionist driving , going no where fast !
Well looks like Kathy Griffin is in hot water again. Now she is being sued by ISIS for cultural appropriation.
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