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Who 's Russian Collusion's laid bare for all to see .....now ?

  1. ahorseback profile image79
    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago

    Interesting , in a "we  all told you so " kind of way , to have watched the Democratic , DNC , scam process sift  itself out in this last election cycle ............boom boom boom boooooom , .......And Now Folks ,   who really colluded ?

    Hilary "Uranium One "  Clinton ?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I'll ask you the same question I've queried other Trumpsters. Why do you care if we made a deal with Russia on the uranium ore? Do you believe either the US or Russia need more nuclear weapons?

      And we only have 80% left we still cannot use all of, so set me straight on why you care. roll

      1. ahorseback profile image79
        ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Why do I care ? How about this ,this is why you should care ?  Because the Clinton mafia machine sold out America for  $ profit alone and more than once  too .        I understand why so many of you suffered "Trump Derangement " but  aside from ones political ideology ;   How about simple patriotism ?

        Also the donations from Russia and from political Russian interests ;  Went to the Clinton Foundation Initiative .

        Now , Let's talk about the Clinton / Chinese weapons tech. deals .

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          So we shouldn't do any kinds of deals with Russia, is that it? No wheat or grain sales, Nothing? How is that being patriotic? And you're happy with Trump making money when he charges Secret Service agents tourist rates when they have to guard him at Trump properties. Now that's patriotic~ lol

          1. ahorseback profile image79
            ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Piecing away America's national defense resources for personal gain is exactly the issue , ALL during the Obama , Clinton , Holder , Lynch  administration  While alleging  "Russian - Trump Collusion " all through the , nomination ,election and Trump presidential  cycle , including  NOW the  Obama , Clinton  D.O.J. dossier ?

            Is that all perhaps just the Clinton way of doing business?

            1. colorfulone profile image87
              colorfuloneposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              Yes it is, the Clintons have always blamed the opposition with their own crimes, corruption and sins.  The list goes on...

      2. promisem profile image100
        promisemposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        We will make money off the Russians on American uranium until we don't want them to have access to it anymore. That's capitalism.

    2. Readmikenow profile image95
      Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I must admit.  Liberals make me laugh. Such hypocrisy.  Donald Trumps son simply met with someone from Russia and the left went crazy with cries of "collusion." We find out Hillary's campaign paid millions to a foreign government for a discredited dossier and all you hear are crickets. Where are the cries of collusion?  Now, Hillary sold our uranium reserves to Russia for personal gain.  Significant funds went to the Clinton foundation  See, Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to get rich from foreign governments. I know liberals may not understand this but that is a big no no. Guess what? This has been covered by the mainstream media as well as "right wing" media.  I really believe this is a bit more complicated than a liberal can understand.  Dealing with reality and honesty is always such a struggle for them.

    3. crankalicious profile image94
      crankaliciousposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      LOCK HER UP!!

  2. Live to Learn profile image79
    Live to Learnposted 2 months ago

    I'm finding this new development disgusting, but I should have known she was involved in that dossier. I couldn't understand her constant 'Russia' wolf crying. It seemed so pointless. But, if she'd paid for a dossier of dirt from the Russians I suppose she just couldn't grasp the fact that she wasn't getting her money's worth out of it.

    We will, of course, get signature Hillary excuses on this one.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      But you apparently don't find the dossier on Trump "disgusting." Or the fact the dossier was started by a Republican. lol

      And once again, no one seems to want to address my question re the uranium sales. Why not?

      1. colorfulone profile image87
        colorfuloneposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Roger Stone said yesterday that the Republican is Paul Singer, a wealth lobbyist.  Stone seemed pretty confident.  He has very good sources!

        Another never Trumper, RINO.

        1. colorfulone profile image87
          colorfuloneposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Looks like Stone's source was correct.  Washington Free Beacon came out and said Singer was the original funder of the fake news dossier before Hillary Clinton's campaign funded Fusion GPS's efforts.

      2. Live to Learn profile image79
        Live to Learnposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        I am not certain how you came to the conclusion that I wasn't disgusted. Are you funding a dossier on me?

        As to the Uranium. I don't know that I have ever weighed in on that issue so you'll have to continue trading barbs with someone who give a s##t. smile

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          No dossier on you, I already know you're on DT's side. roll

          1. Live to Learn profile image79
            Live to Learnposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Don't know why I keep repeating myself, here. Since the left leaners don't appear to want to bother to read what anyone without pompoms in their hands type. I was anti Hillary. I am pro let's stop fighting about the past. Don't really understand what is so difficult to understand about that. Maybe, someday, someone on the left can enlighten us.

            1. Randy Godwin profile image94
              Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              Despite your lack of pompoms, I do read your posts, LTL. smile

              1. Live to Learn profile image79
                Live to Learnposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                smile Well, I think my primary crime is expecting no more, no less, from the guy with the orange hair. He just isn't as adept at hiding his sleaziness as the other politicians. I am hoping the American public can open it's eyes to the corruption of our government and stop whining about each other so we can begin to band together.

                1. wilderness profile image98
                  wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  "He just isn't as adept at hiding his sleaziness as the other politicians."

                  Boy, you got that one right! big_smile

      3. GA Anderson profile image84
        GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Hi there Randy, I will offer an answer to your questions.

        I was skeptical of the "dossier" from the start. And I also found it disgusting from the start - but not because I think it was true, (as it seems you do). I do recall some association of McCain's name with it in the beginning, but I don't recall any of the details - so I can't address that part.

        Regarding the uranium deal... I do think it is a big deal, but only due to the details of the possible involvement of Hillary, (and Bill?), and her foundation, and, the FBI. I don't think Russia's ownership of that 20%, (and here I am once again not really familiar with the details), is a catastrophe, and since I understand that there were approximately eight other departments involved in the approval, I am not sure how to consider the implications of Hillary's State Dept. approval.

        GA

        1. promisem profile image100
          promisemposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Is that all you have GA? (Once again, to use your words.) Just a blanket acceptance by the right-wing media that the dossier isn't factual?

          If you are a capitalist as you claim on other posts, what is wrong with a Canadian company that owns American property selling its shares to a Russian company?

          If State was one of nine voting members on the deal, and Clinto wasn't even involved in the vote, why was her involvement a "big deal"?

          http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

          1. GA Anderson profile image84
            GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Hmm.. I am beginning to notice a pattern here promisem. I say one thing and you read it to mean whatever it needs to mean to meet your perspective of a conservative opinion.

            I said I was skeptical of the dossier. Your comment appears to say that because I didn't automatically accept it as true I had "Just a blanket acceptance by the right-wing media that the dossier isn't factual?"

            I don't see how being skeptical indicates a blanket acceptance. Now that it appears that it was a Democrat financed piece of opposition research, perhaps a bit of skepticism was warranted. Or not. Maybe you can tell me why you automatically accepted it as true. or at least how my skepticism equates to blanket belief that it was false?

            Your comment challenging my statement on the uranium deal - with me being a capitalist and all, is even more confusing. What I said; "I don't think Russia's ownership of that 20%, (and here I am once again not really familiar with the details), is a catastrophe..." doesn't seem to say I do have a problem with it. How do you read it otherwise?

            Your last question, though, is one that indicates your perspective best. If it turns out that there was bribery, influence seeking charity donations, FBI investigations, and covert pay-offs, (Bill's speech payment), connected to Hillary and her State Dept., don't you think that would be a big deal?

            Surely you don't have a blanket acceptance of stuff like that as just business as usual in the Clinton's political world?

            GA

        2. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Well GA, you apparently aren't aware that much of the dossier has been proven correct by alternate sources. Not all as of yet, but I think it's only a matter of time...

          1. GA Anderson profile image84
            GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            You are right Randy, I am not very aware of the details of the dossier - the truths or the falsehoods, or more recent news about what truths have been proven or falsehoods exposed.

            When it first hit the news I did take a brief look, but as I recall, when I got to the part that spoke of "Golden Showers" I became skeptical enough to not care to dig deeper.

            I think I recall that it was given to the FBI. What resulted from that? What details have been proven true? Or false? Tell me more... Tell what you know to be proven true?

            *Are you and Kelly Ann sharing "Alternate" sources now?

            GA

            1. Randy Godwin profile image94
              Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              I'm going by what the members of the investigating have reported, GA. Sorry I don't have a link as I thought this was well known, except by Fox watchers of course.

              1. ahorseback profile image79
                ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Good point ,  It is after all Fox  , that brings most of today's truth's to ALL our  doors .

                1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                  Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  Stop it Mike, you're killin' me! lol

              2. Readmikenow profile image95
                Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                "Sorry I don't have a link"...you crack me up Randy.  This is good but even better "this was well known, except by Fox watchers of course."  Yeah, things in Trumps dossier are proven true...and only Fox doesn't cover it and no news organization reporting this have no links to the story.  Beautiful! I'm sure Benghazi was also the result of a YouTube video...Hillary had no idea about her server being cleaned "you mean with a cloth?" Randy, this stuff my be believable with liberals..the rest of us are not taken in by it.

                1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                  Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  That's pity Mike, you sorta prove my point because you haven't heard of things already proven by separate intelligence agencies. As I said earlier, if you watch Fox you miss a lot of REAL news.

                2. Readmikenow profile image95
                  Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  Randy, I make my living doing research.  If anything you said had a molecule of truth, I would know.  You can't provide links because they're aren't any. You can't produce anything proven by separate intelligence agencies because there isn't any.  Provide proof or admit I'm right.   Such games.  Geeeze.

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                    Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                    Mike, just minutes ago on Erin Burnette a congressman named Nadler--I think I spelled his name correctly--reiterated my earlier claim of some of the dossier being proven through other intel agencies. He also said none of it has been debunked yet. As I said, you'll have to get off Fox to learn something, Mike.

                    I have no need to make up stuff when it's on the real news.

                  2. Readmikenow profile image95
                    Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                    Randy, A Democrat political hack like Jerrold Nadler being interviewed by Erin Burnette on CNN? They have about as much proof of things and you do.  This sad.  You have nothing, they have nothing, because there is nothing.  Geeze.

              3. GA Anderson profile image84
                GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Well Randy, I suppose that Fox News barb might have been directed at me, and although I do occasionally tune-in to catch their slant on breaking issues, (as I do with CNN also), I wouldn't call myself a Fox watcher.

                Anyway ... Knowing that Google is my friend, I looked for news, old and new, about that dossier, and so far about the most helpful I found was an Oct 25th article from the New York Times.

                I don't want to form an opinion from just one article, but it was a general overview that at least helps me understand your claims.

                I know I may not have looked deep enough to find those validations you mentioned from members of the investigation(s), but the NYT article did include this:

                "How much of the dossier has been substantiated?"

                "There has been no public corroboration of the salacious allegations against Mr. Trump, nor of the specific claims about coordination between his associates and the Russians. In fact, some of those claims have been challenged with supporting evidence. For instance, Mr. Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, produced his passport to rebut the dossier’s claim that he had secret meetings in Prague with a Russian official last year."


                Since it also confirmed that McCain gave a copy to the FBI, and, you say these issues are supposedly well-known by most informed folks, I would be glad to dig a little deeper, (to ensure an informed opinion), if you could point me in the direction of those validations you say you read about.

                GA

  3. abwilliams profile image22
    abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

    Randy, we can finally agree on something!

    There are many Reps that never wanted Trump (nor any other Outsider) in D.C., no doubt about it!

    How long does it take to drain a very large swamp?

  4. colorfulone profile image87
    colorfuloneposted 2 months ago

    roll

  5. abwilliams profile image22
    abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

    Spot on Mike.

    (Since Trump), if there's even a hint that Trump, or any person associated with him, has been within a mile of a Russian, it has been breaking News...call out the Investigative teams, hold the presses! 

    Now, with all that's coming out, what can the Dems say?
    Well, a Republican may have initiated the dossier.
    Well,  something in those documents, may be true.

    The facts: Hillary was supposed to win and we were to never know of any Clinton shenanigans.
    Trump came to town, rocked the boat and then it became all hands on deck to coverup their 'actions', destroying Trump in the process.

    If only as much effort went into taking care of the people's business, as does into furthering careers and lining pockets.

    "Crooked Hillary".....he had that right!

  6. ahorseback profile image79
    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago

    Simple truth is this ; Hilary's  voters wore blinders all through that campaign and election .  Her and Bills  Russian collusion's WERE   covered by the larger and smaller outlets of mostly  conservative news outlets all during the campaign !

    All  of you Fox News- haters ,  should have at least listened then . Perhaps now you wouldn't be suffering the Trump Derangement , that of losing an election that became so personal for you .
    Something politics shouldn't ever be .

  7. colorfulone profile image87
    colorfuloneposted 2 months ago

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13757783.jpg

    You gotta remember that people who watch liberal media are told what to think, they are programmed to think their fake news is a big deal and then the real news is a nothingburger.  I hate seeing the brainwashing that happens with my own brother who mostly watches MSNBC which is just nonsense, and he believes their nonsense and therefore talks political nonsense that becomes core beliefs.  Otherwise, he is a great person.

  8. abwilliams profile image22
    abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

    ...and then there's talk radio! Many moons ago I'd share my opinion on something (I've apparently always been opinionated wink and I'd hear about a guy on the radio. Started listening and was sucked in. So many personalities and opinions and citizens from all around the Nation calling in with their opinions. Been hooked on talk radio for a  long time! Love it!

    1. ahorseback profile image79
      ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Brietbart !

  9. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 2 months ago

    Turn over to CNN. They are discussing it now.

  10. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 2 months ago

    And back to the original topic, are any of you Trumpsters aware the uranium stays in the country even though the Russians own the company? I'd wager not as Fox News only tells you what riles you guys up, not the whole truth about the deal. Gee whiz guys, check the facts!! sad

  11. VanessaJanes profile image81
    VanessaJanesposted 2 months ago

    As I sit back and wait for the official findings of the Mueller investigation, I am amazed at the lengths some will go to claim they already know the innocence or guilt of Trump and Co, and now Clinton and Co.

    Charges are now being filed. We don't yet know who or what, but this is serious business. It will be fascinating to see how much defending of the home team will continue as the evidence of wrongdoing grows or withers, as the case may be.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Good attitude, Vanessa. I think many of us will be educated as to what heights some will go to reach the pinnacle of power in the US. Not to mention the division created in our country for the sake of a buffoons ego. Thank goodness the end may be in sight. smile

      1. VanessaJanes profile image81
        VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        I think it's been five months since Mueller began the investigation? That's actually not too bad for a first indictment.

        I wonder when the tweets will come. smile

        1. Randy Godwin profile image94
          Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          The talking heads are betting Trump's mentors will try to hold Donnie's tweets down. Good luck with that! lol

  12. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 2 months ago

    I suppose my antagonists have crashed by the lack of response to my posts. Ah well, tomorrow is another day....

    1. GA Anderson profile image84
      GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      You finally got something right Randy; Tomorrow is another day... and here it is, but your thought that your "antagonists have crashed" is a stretch that I doubt any objective observer would agree with.

      My better judgement told me to just move on because you refused to support any of your claims, or even discuss points that conflicted with your perceived truth - and then comes this "crashed" thought. What kind of friend would I be if I just let you roll on believing that?

      Since I have to consider that I might be included in that "antagonists" group, I have to offer you an 'alternate' explanation; at least this antagonist has recognized the futility of getting anything more than anti-Trump perspectives from you. This antagonist has realized that you won't even consider any information that conflicts with your anti-Trump claims.

      Randy, I don't think your antagonists have crashed, they are just taking a break to pick the brick fragments from their foreheads.

      GA

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        GA, I thought you knew that "crashed" meant gone to bed. lol Not anything to do with your comments.

        1. GA Anderson profile image84
          GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Thanks Randy. Once more we see the value of context.

          GA

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Well, you apparently weren't a flower child GA, or you'd recognize the lingo. tongue

            1. wilderness profile image98
              wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              He's just a youngster, Randy - too young to have been part of it then.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                No wonder he misunderstood me. Just a youngster, eh?

                And why has this thread been cancelled? yikes

              2. GA Anderson profile image84
                GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Nobody is as old as you Wilderness, but I did try to make up for what I missed. ;-)

                Ga

            2. GA Anderson profile image84
              GA Andersonposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              You're right Randy, I wasn't a flower child. I am not quite a youngster as Wilderness quipped, but I did miss Woodstock by a couple years. I recognized your use of "crash" after you clued me in, but it didn't come to me the first time around.

              They do say memory is the first thing to go, but I can't remember what the second thing was. ;-)

              *The thread isn't cancelled as far as I can tell.

              GA

              1. Randy Godwin profile image94
                Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                My Mistake GA, when I made my last comment there was a page 5 listed which when clicked said there were no comments. Weird!  I too missed Woodstock but attended the Byron Rock Festival near Macon, Ga.

                Flower Power! tongue

  13. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 2 months ago

    We may get the opportunity to see a POTUS pardon his son and his son-in-law before it's all over. And his fans will simply love it! Sometimes I detest my fellow man...  sad

  14. ahorseback profile image79
    ahorsebackposted 2 months ago

    The biggest lesson in all of these investigations  IS that those on the left believed everything that Obama / Hilary Clinton did was ordained by the gods of politics and officiated by the emotional mindset of National Enquirer like media  .

    The ones who needed investigating the most ARE the investigators !
    -Lynch
    -Comey
    -Holder
    -Mueller.........all of these are as guilty as sin for creating this dossier.

    At least those on the right are attempting the draining ALL of the culprits  down the tubes while the left dallies in political emotions led by face-book fore-mat .

    Sad but gospel .

  15. Kathleen Cochran profile image82
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    Trump.  He committed treason, not opposition research.  Not that I expect most of the readers of this discussion to recognize the difference.

    1. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information."

      What has Trump done that fits the definition of Treason?  As far as I know, Trump has not waged war with America or given arms, troops etc. to it's enemies.

    2. ahorseback profile image79
      ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      And yet , you still can't see Hilary's entire treasonous history ?

      1. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Please give a link to HRC's charges and convictions. Or least a list of them if you dare.

        1. ahorseback profile image79
          ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          Randy ;No one here has to provide for your learning experiences , suffice to say you can do your own clerk work .    For your information  however , all one needs  is  a decent source of mainstreaming media and common sense . Perhaps  a little life provided wisdom ; boom ......there, now  you have a start .

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            I already knew you had nothing, so no surprise as there's nothing to your claim. She hasn't been convicted or charged with anything. Fox spin and talking points is where you get your info.

  16. Onusonus profile image81
    Onusonusposted 2 months ago

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  17. Onusonus profile image81
    Onusonusposted 2 months ago

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  18. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 2 months ago

    This entire thread is based on false claims by Fox News and other right wingnut media sources to draw attention away from the Trump/Russia collusion investigation. Now that the first charges and indictments will be served on one or more Trump minions early next week by Mueller we'll see who's in deep doo doo.

    I suspect those targeted with the first charges will really consider if they want to take the fall for their superiors. Even if Trump Pardons them they cannot escape state charges of wrongdoing. The $hit may hit the fan shortly. smile

    1. ahorseback profile image79
      ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Wow , you really still suffer  Trump Derrangment ?    Seriously ?     I thought that that had pretty much passed through the digestive systems of most of the  pundits here.

      1. colorfulone profile image87
        colorfuloneposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Here is a prefect example of CNN propaganda.
        http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact … s_10272017

        1. ahorseback profile image79
          ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          You know , the entire country of Russia  as a nation could come forth and  say "   We created the entire "Russian /Trump Connection  " scenario to totally F.U. the entire election process in America"...........................

          And Democrats would  say ........."..It's just a Trump  conspiracy" .

      2. Randy Godwin profile image94
        Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Apparently you know nothing about the dossier or the uranium deal, Horsey. This is old news in both cases and no reason to charge anyone with anything. Perhaps you can enlighten me on what HRC did illegally re the uranium deal? You do realize the Russians simply bought a company and cannot export any ore outside of the country? Or do you? roll

        1. ahorseback profile image79
          ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          How nice it was for the owners of the Uranium one to donate millions to the Clinton foundation .........and timely too. and all just when the Clinton's were about to pay for Chelsea's  wedding for one .

          Now lets talk about the Chinese acquiring U.S.  missile defense technology from Bill ?

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            No thanks, I've already heard the Fox talking points on the subject.tongue

            1. ahorseback profile image79
              ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              You mean the Fox News , the most trusted ,popular news source in media today , That Fox News?

  19. Onusonus profile image81
    Onusonusposted 2 months ago

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    1. VanessaJanes profile image81
      VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      If Hillary was in the pocket of the Russians, why wouldn't Putin favor her for President?  His greatest asset would be POTUS. 

      What steps did Putin take to support the election of Hillary?

      1. Onusonus profile image81
        Onusonusposted 2 months agoin reply to this

        Who says the Russian mafia is smart?

        1. VanessaJanes profile image81
          VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          So, you agree that it doesn't make sense.

          1. Onusonus profile image81
            Onusonusposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Not what I said at all.

            1. VanessaJanes profile image81
              VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

              Then what are you saying? The cartoon says Hilary was bribed. If the Russians already had a convenient stooge in Hillary, why would they favor a Trump presidency? I'm trying to figure out your logic

              1. wilderness profile image98
                wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                What makes you think the Russians preferred Trump to Clinton?  Because liberals plastered it all over social media for months?

                1. VanessaJanes profile image81
                  VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  All I can say to this is, "oh, brother." I think you are seeing what you want to see and nothing else. I suspect that you will continue to see with your own filter all the way to the end of this investigation, regardless of the outcome.

                  1. wilderness profile image98
                    wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                    Fair enough.  I'll continue to question, you can continue to make assumptions you can't back up.  As in "Russia wanted Trump to win".

                    (Everything I've seen so far on what actions Russia took indicate, in the words of the FBI, that the goal was to disrupt American society, not to get a particular candidate elected.  The assumption that they worked towards Trumps election is quite unfounded, then.)

              2. Onusonus profile image81
                Onusonusposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                Go back, read again.

                1. VanessaJanes profile image81
                  VanessaJanesposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  Why don't you explain it to me like I'm an 8-year-old?

                  1. Onusonus profile image81
                    Onusonusposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                    Because an eight year old would get it the first time.

  20. Kathleen Cochran profile image82
    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    We all have points of view.  Fair enough.  But who has gotten arrested and who hasn't?

    Much of this discussion took place before last Monday.  What do folks have to say now?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image94
      Randy Godwinposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Fake News! tongue

  21. Onusonus profile image81
    Onusonusposted 2 months ago

    https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23244178_722899554574687_4835707371678889301_n.jpg?oh=9103c8152f5d6f60a578d65222a18f75&oe=5A63BC94

    1. ahorseback profile image79
      ahorsebackposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Perfect !

  22. colorfulone profile image87
    colorfuloneposted 2 months ago

    That is satire I'm sure but none the less...
    Pray for Donna...who helped rig the election for you know who.

    1. Onusonus profile image81
      Onusonusposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Thoughts and prayers...

  23. ptosis profile image74
    ptosisposted 2 months ago

    Silence ... total silence ...
    Let me answer that for you H:

    Trump Voters Won’t Support Impeachment Even If Collusion Is Proven (says poll)
    why? Trumpeteers are no different than you or I.

    "Coming or going, you stick to your beliefs instead of questioning them. When someone tries to correct you, tries to dilute your misconceptions, it backfires and strengthens them instead. Over time, the backfire effect helps make you less skeptical of those things which allow you to continue seeing your beliefs and attitudes as true and proper."- https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10 … re-effect/

  24. tritrain profile image83
    tritrainposted 2 months ago

    I can't relate to hard-headed, stubborn thinking like that.  I think for that reason Trumpeteers are not like me at all.

 
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