'If you can't beat 'em, join them' - right?

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  1. keepitnatural profile image70
    keepitnaturalposted 7 years ago

    'If you can't beat 'em, join them' - right?

  2. Seeker7 profile image93
    Seeker7posted 7 years ago


    I think it depends who 'they' are and what you might be joining? At the end of the day I don't think you should compromise your beliefs just because you feel you are not winning.

  3. Pente profile image81
    Penteposted 7 years ago

    Yes, we have to choose are battles carefully and make alliances whenever possible. Look at Ron Paul. He is a well known libertarian, but runs as a republican.
    Even America made good with Pakistan when it decided to go after al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
    Mrs. Clinton  vs. Obama at first, now she is working for his administration.
    Of course, alliances can quickly shift when we make friends with enemies. For a while we allied with Iraq against Iran, but later we turned against them.

  4. TinaTango profile image64
    TinaTangoposted 7 years ago

    No, I believe in cold hard karma.  If you can't beat em' now, it will come around and bite them right back.

  5. Lisa HW profile image65
    Lisa HWposted 7 years ago

    I like Seeker7's answer.  I'm not a fan of such a defeatist and passive way of thinking.  If there's someone I'd otherwise have wanted to "beat" that implies they're someone who has very different thinking/aims than I do.   I'm not one to "join anybody or anything" that isn't in keeping with my own aims, values, beliefs, principles, etc.

    I may not necessarily try to get them to do things my way (in fact, most of the time I've fine respecting whatever it is someone else prefers).  I won't join them, though.  I'd rather stand alone on something.  Worst case, I remain alone.  Better case, some people start joining me.  Best case, the people I couldn't "beat" eventually realize they couldn't beat me - and join me and those with me.    Either way, I win.   smile

  6. nightwork4 profile image60
    nightwork4posted 7 years ago

    not usually. i hate being a follower unless it is for a good cause and even then it depends on who is leading the cause.

  7. raki leola profile image51
    raki leolaposted 7 years ago

    wrong! why join someone with opinions or thinking not acceptable to you? If I can't beat them, I'll stay away from them. I'd rather be alone than join someone doing things I cannot tolerate.... I believed that Birds of the same feathers flocks together. Well, better look for someone with the same morale as yours.

  8. theseus profile image80
    theseusposted 7 years ago

    It depends. If it's something not worth joining, then, No way! I have my own free will, I can make my own choices and I have my own principles to uphold. I wouldn't want to compromise any of that for something not worth it.


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