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Does this Democrat need to apologize?

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nicompposted 8 years ago
http://newsbusters.org/stories/kerry_us … =node/3092
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  AEvansposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  nope he does not it is clearly saying that women and children are being harmed they are innocent victims (many) of them due to circumstance.
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  SparklingJewelposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  not just him, but how many others...Barney Frank the most recent one.
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rednckwmnposted 8 years ago
what did he do? couldnt load the whole thing. i had chickens to butcher and missed tv......
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White Teethposted 8 years ago
Does that say 2005?...

My answer would be "no"...
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Typical.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Lol, good catch
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  lol. Let's give Joe Wilson 4 years to think about it as well.
  
  Ahh, the situational ethics of Progressives/Democrats/Liberals.
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  White Teethposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Wow...if you were trying to make some point about Joe Wilson you could have found something much better than this...
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A Texanposted 8 years ago
John Kerry, what a goon!
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Couldn't agree more! However, it's pretty sad that nicomp has to go digging back to 2005 to take a stab at the Democratic party. What a joke.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Can't censor me here, eh?
  
  Actually I was skewering Kerry, not his party. Stay with me.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I'm sure we could find something a little more recent, or we could always go back 40 years to a midnite ride "Chappaquiddick Teddy!"
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh no. That happened too long ago. They're not interested any more.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Were they ever interested?
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Not in Massachusetts. The Kennedy compound is impenetrable.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  "The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts" Never been there, always wanted to go, not to live just visit!
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I can't remember who wrote it, but this was written by a columnist during the Robert Bork confirmation hearings:
  
  "If the Democrats want to get rid of Bork, they should let Ted Kennedy drive him home."
  
  Of course, that was a long time ago. Nobody cares anymore.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Sonya Sotomayor is qualified but Robert Bork wasn't, odd thing!
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Bork has a stellar legal mind. Kennedy torpedoed him along partisan lines.
  
  But that was a long time ago. Nobody cares any more.
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
He did not make these statement interrupting the President of the United States in Congres..
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Bush was booed before Congress! Give it a rest!
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Good catch. They all need to apologize.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  When?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Don't know read it last night, Wilson apologized what more can be done, spa....Not this time!
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  With all due respect, what was your take on the reporter who threw his shoe at Bush?
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  Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Didn't that take place in a foreign country? I don't believe in any attempted assault of anyone.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Foreign Country? That matters? The president is fair game when he leaves the floor of the Senate?
  
  Yes, it was in Iraq.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You left out the rest of what I said..."I don't believe in any attempted assault of anyone."
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
And if Kerry had said this in Congress interrupting the President, then yes, he should have apologized and been censured.
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
LOL Day is wasted without a good argument, isn't it?
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
Hey, I am treating it as over.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Me too, lets talk about current events like that stained dress.
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nicompposted 8 years ago
Bush booed when addressing Congress

"Democrats Boo Bush At 2005 State Of The Union"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ … union.html
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A Texanposted 8 years ago
I'm beginning to see a pattern!
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Notice that all the Progressives/Liberals/Democrats vanished when I posted the link to Bush being booed by Congress.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I was at work, I can't stream video at work...
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  The pattern was something else it didn't have a thing to do with liberals/progressives or Ducks!
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
I listened (to the original on C-Span) and it's hard to tell if it is booing or if it is people agreeing with him about how Social Security could go bankrupt. I'm sure you will ridicule that theory.

Why would the Democrats boo at this point?

"f steps are not taken to avert that outcome, the only solutions would be dramatically higher taxes, massive new borrowing, or sudden and severe cuts in Social Security benefits or other government programs."

Sorry to disagree with all those conservative blogs...
And why did Fox say nothing about it when it happened?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  They booed because that's exactly what they want to happen. The democrats want dramatically higher taxes, massive new borrowing and sudden and severe cuts in benefits given to people. Look at Obama's current course. They're not stupid, they know exactly where their actions will take this country.
  
  Of course they booed.
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
Lol, that is their platform and they would admit that by booing.

It still sounded more like grumbling that booing to me. And again, why did no one make a big deal out of this at the time? There is no way of knowing who did or did not boo, that is my opinion.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Because conservatives are more mature than liberals. And only liberals would have booed Bush.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Good spin. "Not booing, grumbling." I am impressed.
  
  And Joe Wilson was yelling into his Bluetooth. He didn't call the President a liar, he called his dry cleaner a liar.
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RKHenryposted 8 years ago
Conservatives are more mature than liberals.......

I think that is the stupidest statement I have ever read.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Of course you do . . .
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah I do. And your point being?
  
  Oh, I forgot your so terrifically perfect, and the most insightful theorist the world has ever seen. My bad...
  
  Stupidest statement ever. Own it- you wrote it.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh, I take full responsibility for that statement. Adults are willing to look at facts. As soon as you confront a liberal with facts they change the subject, obfuscate or run away.
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  IntimatEvolutionposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Are you really taking responsibility for the statement, or are you just pissed off because he didn't agree with what you had to say? It's really too bad you commented back, your silence was speaking volumes.
  
  I think you just let him get the best of you. Shame really. I don't think RK runs and hides from anybody. So good luck with that, Madame X.
  
  Just an outsider's point of view. Excuse me, if I've ticked you off.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You haven't ticked me off. I've never met a liberal who is willing to look at the facts and face them if those same facts fly in the face of what they want to believe. Facing what you don't like takes courage, not a strong suit of liberals.
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  IntimatEvolutionposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  RK is a register Republican just to let you know........
  
  I'm the democrat. I find I have alot of courage, go figure.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  That would explain his staunch conservative leanings.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Huh, X you seem to have been prophetic!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No, conversation ebs and flows on a forum. I know a few times myself I left certain political threads when people started acting like eighth graders.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Umm... that'd be "You're", not "your"
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You must not get out much.
  
  Censor that!
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Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago
Well... I took it more as people grumbling about how bad Social Security would get if Bush didn't fix it. Just because a few conservative blogs say it so does not necessarily mean it is...
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Madame Xposted 8 years ago
A registered Republican may or may not be a conservative, just as a democrat may or may not be a liberal. However, I've no desire to argue labels with you. I look at what actions people take and match it up with their avowed affiliation. Only then do I draw my conclusions.
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  IntimatEvolutionposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And I want no bad karma with you. However, that does not make me a Hindu.
  
  I think the moral of the story is you can't lump EVERYBODY into one selective group, and trash talk them. According to you, Democrats have no courage. I'm a Democrat, I have courage........ But does that change your opinion of Democrats, no! It's kinda like the KKK, in Mississippi in the 1950's. Labeling, tagging, leads to a form of racism.
  
  Not saying your a racist, just making an observation.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No, I said LIBERALS have no courage, not democrats. And I haven't lumped EVERYBODY into one category. I have carefully observed the actions of liberals and this is what I've found. If your observations are different, and as a result you hold different beliefs, that is, of course, your right.
  
  I also stated, quite clearly, that I do not want to argue labels with you. That's a hint - I don't use labels. I observe actions and then equate those actions with self-avowed affiliations. Or did you miss that part?
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bgpappaposted 8 years ago
As to the OP, the guy who threw a shoe at Bush was an Iraqi. Joe Wilson apologized as he should, and they should move on. Democrats making more of it than it really was will only hurt Democrats and make Joe Wilson a hero. He said he was sorry, and Obama accepted. Should be the end of it.

As for A Texan

I don't think I have every changed the subject on you. And we have had some nasty debates.

But why is it Conservatives lately consider insults facts? Or is it just the way they are saying it?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I am insulted by the entire post and tone. Do the troll 'conservatives' on this forum see nothing and formulate nothing but stereotypes of people in a binary fashion--left/right?
  
  Anybody insulting the President of the United States--legitimately doing so--should apologize. Would I personally 'require' Joe Wilson due that? No. Did/should he have enough decorum himself to do so? Yes. And a smart move.... And it was an apology that Obama accepted graciously and told others not to make a big deal about.
  
  As for my opinion on whether it was 'right.' Let the guilty party's constituency decide that. I understand his opponent's internet fundraising $ due to this incident has now reached $500,000.
  
  What surprises me is that as much crap as you troll 'conservatives' spew...constantly, constantly belching stereotypes and misinformation...that there are liberals such as bgpappa that take the time to be patient with you.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Don't you have laundry to do?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Apparently, you have trolling to do.
  
  What's a matter, Nicomp...couldn't find a 'liberal' statement in that verbiage to rip the wings off of? Oh, poor thing. You're left without any defense. So hard for trolls...actual communication. That's why you are nameless, faceless trolls who stereotype.
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You're married to that "wings off" analogy, aren't you?
  
  Don't forget the fabric softener.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  That's so cute! Did you take the cue for that technique from Rush Limbaugh? Or maybe long ago, half forgotten frat house antics? Did it work for you then?
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Colors in warm water.
  
  Actually, I have no clue. I don't do laundry.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Special! So special. I'm impressed with the rhetoric, truly. Where is your deep need for meaningful debate? Disappear with the rest of your previous act?
  
  And of course...OF course you don't do laundry. BTW, I do MY OWN laundry. And only that.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  AND read the newspaper? Is there no end to your amazing skills?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Is there no end to your amazing drivel? Don't you bore even yourself?
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  nicompposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Don't you think they should have a beer in the back yard?
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torimariposted 8 years ago
Oh, this thread is a hoot.

Nicomp you truly tickle my funny bone you cheeky monkey.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  They are much less funny the more you have contact with the type, I'm afraid...
  
  But you are welcome to 'em, .
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  He does have a unique ability to get her flustered
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Can't say so, there, Tex...but he does have the unique ability to win me fans,
  
  But sho' nuff, he seem to have run off like hound dog after a pole cat. Daddgummit!
  
  Wonderin why, jus' why?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  same reason I do, you're boring
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I'm sooo glad you think so! Bye-bye now, .
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SweetiePieposted 8 years ago
The entire point on the part of those opposed to health care reform is to cause yet another distraction from the real issue. That is the way I see it .
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And you probably see it correctly, SP, .
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  At this point those opposed to health care reform are getting more desperate. It is like the boyfriend who knows his girlfriend is going to leave him, but he is just set on acting like a totally ninny about it . Ann Coulter and Fox News proclaimed tonight that conservative bloggers and Fox are bringing journalism back to life. That was quite an entertaining comment . Whenever I want to giggle I just turn it to Fox for a few minutes. LG's other half was right about how that is a funny station to watch for the entertainment value alone.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh yeah, a 'desperate' growing majority...
  
  http://www.gallup.com/poll/121814/more- … hcare.aspx
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Things have changed since Obama's speech and the truth has come out. In an impromtu poll with CNN more people decided they were in favor of health care reform. Thanks for sharing your statistics from July.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Well Sweetie I wouldn't get too excited about CNN polls, all 12 people that watch it are completely insane!
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Why it does remind me of religion forum?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Because the politics forum has become just like the religion forum in the past few months. There are a lot of religionist pols about...or, just boring bored people who troll all day, .
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You mean Sweetie is religionist and she trolls? No, you are kidding me, this can't be
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yawn. No. SP is clear headed and lays out a clean argument. If you don't know who 'the religionists' are in this forum, I cannot help you. Must be the same as your take on 'racism.'
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I am definitely not a troll, but Misha is a jerk. See I really see he has it out for me. I feel like just reporting his comment.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You're not serious what is there to report?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  What was that about personal attacks . . .
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I did not make one, but he just made a big one. He is definitely singling me out and not being nice about it. Oh well, I knew he really has been biased against me for years. This is not new!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  ???
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  But that's not personal
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  His comment is way out of line. If someone says something to attack me right when I come on the forum I have a right to stand up for myself. It is a jerky comment, especially since I was singled out completely!
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Is the Waaaambulance parked permanently outside your door?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Must be something there I don't see
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I'd guess you do have a vision problem, yes. That much is apparent.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Personal attack,personal attack
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Well the only person that was attacked was me. Mostly I was coming here to talk with Lita. Misha really needs to lay off. He cannot command certain people he does not like around a certain way.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I think you are too nice to pick on. I can't do it
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Wow. About time another troll got a conscience. (haha, we are picking em off one by one!)
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Sorry I hate you,but you're too damn easy
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Consider me Sweetiepie's big sister. Then you understand. All the rest is crap you've made up in your own head.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  X she would definitely keep a bunch busy!
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Definitely crap, scary bored man.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oooh, scary
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  ooooooo boring...and mean. Do your grandchildren like you? Just a legitimate question.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No grandchildren but my wife is a grandmother
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I think there is no way to rationalize with this crowd. As far as I am concerned the minute I pointed out Fox is deluded and people should not poke fun at people's personal lives that is when the swipe started. They did not like that people do not enjoy Fox, and that is what this is about.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I wouldn't even give them that measure of rationality. I'd say they are just bored, frankly...and that is about all.
  
  No rhyme or reason to their actions but meanness.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Sweetiepie, nobody cares what you think about Fox news, no one attacked you in a way that would suggest that. If Misha said something you think was mean then ask him to stop. Quit trying to be a victim, thats what makes it worse.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Have you considered your own actions in this fray? Any reason why you decided you couldn't 'tease' her? I'd suggest there is.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah there is a reason,she isn't in attack mode 24/7. And can be fun to talk to, soooo unlike you!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  LOL! But Tex, she and TK are "liberal" shills.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Who Sweetie? Maybe, but I can't get onto all of them.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No, not Sweetie - she's cool. Our journalist/laundress.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Did you hear she said I threatened to BBQ her? WTF is that about, that is a few fries short of a happy meal!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  ??? I actually don't pay much attention to her because she never stays on topic or offers any real content on same.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I'm just concerned for my safety, she may get Blue Duck to come after me!
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You really should try writing a few more hubs, 'ma'am'--give you more credibility. But then again, you don't need it with yer bunch, do ya?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Quit attacking us, stop it, whaaaa!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  My hero !
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Did I portray the victim part well?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Beautifully!
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  NO, silly, silly. That's saying, very blatantly, "Ma'am" doesn't write very much or have much credibility. Period. Very confidently, lol. Just like you hate 'em.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Hubpages Credibility? Wow, that is important to "writers?"
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Any hope for discussing on this thread went out the door the moment I mentioned Fox. Of course saying they are not helping journalism spiraled down into how I just do not communicate up to par with the all knowing expert on the thread. I even looked back and saw he took two words from my post and accused me of sounding like the religion thread. At first I thought oh maybe I took things out of context, but someone is responsible for turning this into another mud slinging contest.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Discuss something, fine with me. Cuss fox news I don't care.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Any hope for discussing anything real went out the door with the addition of these trolls, SP. Misha does indeed like to tease...I think it is left over from stuff he saw in the past, lol. I don't think he realizes how much it might effect you, honestly. (Consider Sandra and how she chats.) Of course it does not excuse anything.
  
  As far as me...I find nothing to sincerely talk about with this bunch. This is what they want.
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  This time it went way beyond teasing. I just think taking two words I said and declaring me to sound like the religion forum is way out of line. Of course I have known all along I am just not popular with some. He does not care if any of this bothers me because for him it is funny. He may tease some, but he truly thinks pretty low of me I believe. I should not care, but I never have done this stuff to him. His telling me I need to improve myself is so insulting too. He would scoff if I told him what I think he needed to improve on lol.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  It's actually a lot of reverse psychology. With all of them. If they are attacking you, believe me, I think you should take that as a compliment. Sincerely. Look how they all hate me,
  
  And of course you've never done this stuff to him...all the more reason to do it to you. DO not take anything in this thread seriously...especially from a bunch of fruitloops hiding behind screen names and avatars so they can insult.
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  That's the spirit girl! People hate those they are afraid of, they are aggressive towards the one's who make them feel insecure. It my personal opinion, that like that of the Republican party- many of our hubpage "trollers, and hate mongers" are scared, and have severe self esteem issues.
  
  Thumb suckers- the lot of them.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Thats it, Dr Doolittle
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh snap! We have a winner.
  
  I knew I could count on you Texan.......... SUCKER:lol:
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Very true observation RK.
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  
  Debate class 101, or just your average airport observation. I find it amazing, that even with the aid of the Internet- that a person's insecurities can be brought out into the open. I mean, they are protected, identities protected, no face-to-face; and yet their behavior is the same as if they were face-to-face. I've falling prey to it myself, but.....
  
  What good is falling, if you cannot take a lesson from it and grow?
  
  I like the new pic.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  She has to state that outright Tex - or you won't get it.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You're right, he doesn't. Neither do you. Ultimately.
  
  (It's embarrassing, ) Oh, AND...I'm a 'he.' Can't you tell?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Has she written anything? I have never bothered to look
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Me neither - except about laundry
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No, "Madame" thinks TK and I are one and the same person...or working as a team to break up serious Republican debate topics (omg) on Hubpages. Which, incidentally, is nuts...but OK, whatever!
  
  And listen, sir: You were offensive to me from day one. And I'm afraid I'm just not that interested in displaying 'tender feelings' or what ever you would have so you can rip them apart, as you are currently doing to my friend.
  
  I come here to debate. For fun. It used to be so when there were people on here with actual arguments. You don't happen to be one of them. All you do is spew...and I'm simply not interested in that...or from keeping you from being bored. So go ahead and 'hate' me and tell me to kill myself if it makes you feel better. I know you for what you are. Don't really appreciate it...don't really appreciate the faux 'advice' you are dispensing to SP, either.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  But you sure spend a lot of time posting to me!
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Explaining exactly how things stand above...
  
  And..
  I've decided to give you...'whatever you ares'...a taste of your own medicine. Nicomp was easy. You're the next one to break.
  
  So think of your daughters or nieces. Now think of the crap you have said to SP.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Break? go away you bore me as bad as RKhenry
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I KNOW that's a compliment, . Thanks!
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah he's a real smart one
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Someone told me he was a registered republican.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I voted for Obama! Believe that?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Psycho stalker is back in action!
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh come on Tex, take away the victim status and there's nothing left.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  NOTHING AT ALL.
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I am not being a victim, I am simply stating things the way things are. He does not like a lot of my stances, and he follows me around to command me on them. He even told me on a hub I had about how it is not good to move back home after college that there is something wrong with Americans for feeling that way. This hub was based on my personal experience, but he deigned to tell me I have a problem with my mindset, and I only feel that way because I am American. I have never come to his driving hubs and told him well he should not do this and that. There has been a lot of commanding on his part towards me.
  
  There are certain women on here that could say any random thing and he would stick up for them. He even implied once I was not a lady. So he does not like me and the way I am, so be it. I feel I do not need to improve because I happen to like myself a lot. If he is going to stay the way he is, why should I have to change. This has been going on for years, and people have even emailed me before where he hurt their feelings. He makes no apologies, and I had not said anything about him personally. Basically he and tk want to prove to the world I am illogical and not rational. They both like to post things like that about me, which is disparaging. This is standing up for myself because he would not do this to many other women.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Don't know what to say, gotta get tougher!
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And "the way things are" is that you are a vitim. Ok, got it.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Hey come on, that's your job.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No it isn't. They just don't agree with you.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Fortunately you are completely irrational, so you are all set.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Your comment was a personal attack, not self defense.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Of COURSE, it is ALL based on political affiliation!
  
  I must say, I have never met a retired lady just like you, ever.
  
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  ever?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Ever! They usually don't exist in nature, I don't think.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You're seeing a whole team of psychiatrists, aren't you?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Don't even go there, "Madame." Still think TK and I are a liberal forum post spy team?
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yup.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  OMG.... I'm so laughing. Analytical you are not, I'm afraid.
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Actually no it was not. However, I do consider your all getting together to defend someone who should let others be pack behavior.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And then some. Wolf pack of meanies...or, em, 'conservatives.'
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah it was. Calling someone a jerk is a personal attack. Just cuz you didn't like what Misha said you felt picked on. So? We all get picked on sometimes.
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Actually telling someone they are acting like a jerk is a mild way to tell someone to lay off. I never allude to swear words and other personal swipes like some do here. I play clean and my conscience is clear. Anyway, you really should not be getting involved as I do see it is becoming more of a pack thing. He could apologize, but I would not demand it. I only would want a sincere person to think about how they treat people unfairly anyway.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And you're really, really smart too!
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  So many people 'have it out for you' and are 'mean' and 'disrespect your dignity' and forget how smart and well educated you are. It must be hard to be so persecuted.
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Sweetie, you definitely improved your conversation skills since we first met, but there is still some room for improvement, trust me
  
  And no, I was not only after you, I like to tease Lita as well
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I think you need to improve yourself immensely. As I said before I have always conducted myself well, and I often I have felt you have not. I am not living according to your standards, and you do have a track record here of irritating and upsetting a lot of people. I am definitely not a troll, and you do not get to single people out. You choose certain people you like and it is a random thing. At this point I really do not care what you think and I love myself and the way I communicate. I never follow you around and treat you the way you treat others!
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  You sure do...
  
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  WTF is that my take on racism you keep mentioning? Could you elaborate a bit, cause it does not really ring any bell?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Perhaps you have been on this forum too long then, and have been involved in too many threads... Hmmm. That scene with all the trolls...and you...attacking Laringo.
  
  Pathetic, sad form. "Unbelievable."
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Ah, that one. I thought I did post an american dictionary definition supporting my views, did you read it?
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And I thought Ralph Deeds tried to give you an education.
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I read it - well said.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  True! But you can only take so much of it before you need some air. My bf says those who watch it for real must have the intelligence of gnats...lol...actually he said it after that communist building segment you posted.
  
  And they are killing journalism, no doubt about that. Been good for bellicosity, however, .
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  They are definitely killing journalism. I have been watching for or five minutes here or there just so I can see what some of these conservative pundits are talking about. However, I have to turn it after about five minutes because it is just way over the top. I loved the visual imagery during the health care speech with a picture of Obama in the bottom right hand corner, and then prime time push popping up right after it. They have headlines in red and many things are about ACORN.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  That's it, that will make those pesky facts and other points of view go away...
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Have you noticed how frequently you mention "bf"? A little strange. Are you afraid no one will believe you, or are you a pathologically dependent personality?
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  This is a personal attack TK. Other people on the hubs talk about their family all the time. Just because you would rather hang out with your computer than your wife does not mean you should attack others.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Just pointing out a rather conspicuous trend. And I wasn't talking to you. Don't worry, you'll get your turn.
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Why not just cut it out completely? I never saw anyone poking fun at your personal life.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Pay attention.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I don't give a rip what YOU of all trolls thinks, TK. Fact is, he is a large part of my life, so it naturally comes out, I would imagine.
  
  So! How about those 19 year old girl in TX, huh? Fantasy, I would imagine...like the other characters.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Wow, you sure have a lot of laundry to do...
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Crickets...
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  They are why you have so much laundry to do?
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Say what now?
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
Uh-oh, American journalism is dead, only Lita and Sweetie Pie approved journalists still keep it barely alive
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Why put it on us, Misha. Why don't you define what journalism is in this day and age? Particularly American journalism?
  
  Love to hear your take, .
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I don't feel educated enough for the task, sorry
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Oh come on Misha - being from a communist country, you must know all about propaganda . . .
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  Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Yeah, but I lack the formal education in the field, so no luck
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  Madame Xposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Ask "Lita Sorensen" - she's a writer. . . .
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  And I hear she actually reads the newspaper...
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Soooo interesting, my name in quotes, "Madame." Is that the same as what I mean with your 'handle' in quotes, ya think, . lol
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Ah, tooooo bad! But here you feel qualified to use snark to keep something alive, .
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  SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Well you know if we were certain people he would be all praisey praisey no matter what they were saying .
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
OK, I have some laundry to do, and then directly to bed, have a fun night guys
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Leta Sposted 8 years ago
Yep, RK IS a Republican! He's just not an idiot Republican, Madame, imagine that, .

Ciao, ladies.
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  tksenseiposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Laundry calls?
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SweetiePieposted 8 years ago
You are right Lita. I really meant to stay off this thread tonight. I have not finished any hubs at this rate lol.
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  Leta Sposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  I should just e-mail you...
  
  Notice how they all disappeared now? Got bored...nothing to say. Sincerely is NOT about any issues. Food fights are only so much fun, even for this crowd.
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Sincerely is not about dealing with you, are you discussing something or is it just the same ol, same ol?
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tksenseiposted 8 years ago
Is the laundry done?
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Mighty Momposted 8 years ago
Is there supposed to be some kind of political issue underneath here?
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  A Texanposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  Probably
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rsmalloryposted 8 years ago
I am personally tired of the double standard politics-

Joe Wilson said 'you lie' on the congress floor during a speech by the president.

How is that any different or worse than Kerry calling Bush names or the democrats booing Bush during the state of the union address or Reid calling him a liar and a cheat?

If one is expected to apologize-they all should period.
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rsmalloryposted 8 years ago
Besides, Wilson apologized personally to the president. He does not need to apologize to congress or on the floor.
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
Thanks, it's a fresh one, taken just a couple of weeks ago. Yours looks pretty sad though, is it really you?
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  RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this
  No, I should probably use my own. I've been thinking about it. I just didn't want too any girl fans disrupting my fan base, you know- because I'm so damn good looking. joking. I just hate taking pictures.
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
LOL You'll enjoy it
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RKHenryposted 8 years ago
Yeah, I would.

I just don't know if my girl would.
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Mishaposted 8 years ago
LOL
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