What would happen if you killed someone who knew Martial Arts?

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   tHErEDpILLposted 13 years ago

   What would happen if you killed someone who knew Martial Arts?
   
   I just had a thought.  If you were fighting someone who knows Martial Arts would you attempt to kill them if you had the chance?  And if so do you think you would be found innocent by self defense?  Think about it for a second.  If you are fighting someone who is trained to kill (if they had to), wouldn't you be scared that they might kill YOU in a fight?  Even though they are trained not to kill unless necessary, they are still human and open to react on emotion.  With this fear one might take an opportunity in the fight to ensure their own safety.  Martial Arts=Lethal weapon?

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   kwade tweelingposted 13 years ago

   The law considers those trained in combat to always posses a deadly weapon. Thus someone coming back from military training for example, will be tried as though they used a weapon even if they killed someone bare handed in self defense.
   
   Personally,  I would be prepared to protect myself by whatever means necessary.

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   MrMaranathaposted 13 years ago

   Personally I would do my best to stay out of the fight to begin with...  But your assumption is based upon a fight that is unavoidable... IE Black belt has me backed into a corner...
   
   Ok... 1st.  I would not instigate but wait for him to make his move first.  2nd Blocking with intent to Grab and off Balance my opponent.
   3rd.  With that slight advantage gained I would act quickly to de-capacitate my opponent before he recovered his balance or footing.
   
   By de-capacitate I mean specifically to do something that will leave the person Unable to fight.  Period.
   It is not about Killing him... its about being the one to walk away.  Its harder to kill a person than most people think.  Unless after subduing the person you went an extra mile and stomped his head in or broke his neck... But if the person is already subdued... then this type of after the fact killing would be seen as homicide in the courts.
   
   Now.. What did I mean by a Decapacitation Move?
   Breaking his knee,  Ankle.. or elbow... Or catching the Kick and lifting the leg high enough so that the person lands on their head followed simultaneously by a kick/stomp to the groin area... 
   
   In any of the above scenarios you have one chance.  When the person makes their move they commit them-self to it...  and in their instigation comes your defense.  Also your legal rights...  But your legal rights end at the point where you have a get away route.... So use it.
   
   While it may be true that combat training makes the person considered "With a weapon"  that still does not give you the right to Beat the unarmed person to death with a baseball bat for example... or unload a pistol on them...  There are limits to what the law will allow.

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   onegoodwomanposted 13 years ago

   Killing is killing..........what the other persons knows, or the skills that they have, are not a part of the equation.  Either you killed them or you acted in self defense.  What they "could" have done, has no bearing..........for they did not do it!
   
   But then, I don't go around getting myself into physical confrontations..........

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   edhanposted 13 years ago

   I would normally avoid at all cost to be in a fight. When I see there is a fight or commotion going on, I rather get the police involved than me trying to resolve fights.
   
   If I had no choice but to engage on a fight then I will find anything around me to use it as a shield or weapon to defend myself while calling out for help.
   
   When I am being attacked, I will defend by hitting back the vital organs of the opponent to disable him/her so that I can run for help.

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   Dandraposted 13 years ago

   Um lets cross THAT bridge when we get to it.

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   Marcy-Liptonposted 13 years ago

   
   
   Don't know, but I imagine the defense lawyer would have to prove with out a reasonable doubt that the killer had prior knowledge about the victim's martial art abilities.
   
   Plus the circumstances around the crime are also crucial.
   
   I wonder if you could actually build a case around that.
   
   hmmmm...
   
   I assume that you are NOT talking about pre-meditated murder where the assailant plotted to kill the martial arts victim because that would be first degree murder and he would be treated like everybody else, the chair or a life sentence depending on the state.
   
   But in a crime of passion were ,lets say, you walked in on your wife having sex with your neighbor who you knew was a trained navy seal with an extensive martial arts background.
   
   You are filled with rage and somehow managed to kill him. Then you couldnt make that case because you were filled with rage and were trying to kill him "temporary insanity". Emotion drove your actions and not logic.
   
   On the other hand, lets say it was a bar fight were the killer didnt really know the martial arts victim, then the lawyer would have a tough time proving that the killer had prior knowledge that the victim had martial arts training.
   
   Tough one....

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   akuiglaposted 13 years ago

   Stay away from fight
   Control your words,control yourself
   Remember that person without self control is"City distroyed and without walls"-Holy Bible-2Solomon 25:26
   Do not provoke others to fight
   Do not react till someone put his hand on you
   Then react with all your might,hit without hesitation
   Never think just to disable your opponent,it may cost you life,aim to destroy

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   nursingmaniaposted 13 years ago

   Simply means you know martial arts than him.

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    Phoebe Pikeposted 13 years ago

    Simply put? They would die and it would have been whoever killed him/hers' fault. It's not self-defense if you started the fight and planned it out beforehand. So it really is up to the system to deal with such things. Even if not convinced of murder, there is other things like manslaughter, assault and battery, etc.

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    Chouji-Von-Lycanposted 13 years ago

    but you could take this argument about anyone, ranted, not everyone is trained in a recognised martial art, but everyone is intuned with the very basics of fighting, and a highly tuned need for survival, this is more than enough to make everyone, even the most timid of people a lethal weapon, just because some one doesn't haven't a certificate to say they know martial arts, doesn't mean they can't fight

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    namwiremanposted 12 years ago

    If you were a sincere martial artist, you would do everything you could to avoid a fight. As the defender, your main objective is survive! The U.S. Constitution gives you the right to defend yourself. Obviously, if the other person called you names or spit on you. Deadly force would not be authorized! However, if the confrontation escalated to punches and kicks. If you were losing badly, and you felt your life was in imminent danger. You would have to do whatever is necessary to stay alive.
    If, you killed the other guy, first call an attorney, and do not answer any quesitons. That is also your right. If you are arrested and brought to trial. You would have to justify your actions to a jury and make it believable! A step by step account of your actions will be necessary.
    Regardless if the attacker was a martial artist or not. Taking a life is a terrible decision. The outcome could be fatal. For you and the other guy.
    The Code of Bushido. The Samurai Code says; run before fighting, fight be injuring, injure before crippling, cripple before killing, kill or be killed.
    Retreat is the best option! Call the police as soon as possible and report the incident. You alone have to make the final decision.
    Rather tried by 12, then carried by 6.

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    fortunerepposted 12 years ago

    first of all if i was fighting, with my experience with martial arts and i felt like my life was in danger, well it doesnt take but five pounds of pressure to pull someones eyeball out, so you decide.

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