White House Counsel Greg Craig to leave in favor of BOB BAUER

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   fishskinfreak2008posted 13 years ago

   BOB BAUER is the husband of outgoing White House communications director ANITA DUNN who is disgraceful for saying that MAO ZEDONG was her favorite philosopher. She ,ay as well have said ADOLF HITLER because this is who Mao represented in China. This is the latest controversial move by the Obama White House.

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      rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you read any of Maos' writtings?

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      RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You know what ticks me off about this whole ordeal? It is the fact that this woman, no matter what or who she is, has worked hard to get where she has gotten too.  She is the same woman appointed by this White House Admin., who has had this belief for years now; but now it suppose to change how we (or them) feel about her?  This is America, damn it!  She's entitled to believe what she will.  She's entitle to admire who she wants.  She has made it this far off her work ethic.  That's the only thing that should be put into judgment here.  It is ridiculous to judge this woman, based off anything that has to do with this nonsense.   
      
      Another thing, my grandmother survived the holocaust.  She is forever branded, and we as family members are branded with her.  As her grandson, with close personal ties to Hitler's regime- NOTHING, I mean NOTHING compares to what that man was able to accomplish and achieve.  I get real sick and tired of people making remarks towards people, and placing them into direct correlation with Hitler.  It's overstated, overworked, and unappreciated.
      
      Hitler- is in a league all of his own.  Remember that will you please, when you start comparing Hitler to Mao or to anyone else. It is tiresome.  And eventually, when people have compared Hitler enough, his crimes against my family(7+ million people killed by his hate) will all but dimension.  Hitler is unlike anyone.  Remember that.

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         Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Stalin and Ze-Dong both killed more people than Hitler.

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         ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         With all due respect for you and your family, Communists killed far more than the Fascists ever did.  Not for lack of trying.  Just about the entire world united to erase Fascism from the world, that's why there is still a remnant of European Jews left.
         
         http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
         
         
         
         The names of the people, ideologies, nations don't matter.  What matters is the mindset which allows these atrocities to not only happen in the first place, but which attempt to justify why they happened and how it was a supposedly good thing that it did.  The idea that the ends justify the means is one of the most evil ideas in the history of humanity.

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            RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            What purpose does this comparison make?  Seriously, I would like to know your thinking and why this was a truly necessary point to make?  What purpose, in the long run does it serve?  Just to prove my "death toll" facts wrong?  What?  I missed your point entirely.

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               Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               the point is that hitler killed a few jews, but stalin killed a whole ton of mixed religion whatevers. clown

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               ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You claim Hitler is in a class all his own.  He is not.  If there is one thing that typified the 20th century, it was the mass slaughter of human beings for political or ideological reasons.

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                  RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah he was.  He single handily, turned an entire nation of people against a sect of religious people.
                  
                  No leader, has EVER had the support of SO MANY Nationalize patrons or citizens, when killing that mass group of people.  NO ONE LEADER, ever.  There is so many different aspects of Hitler, than just killing of the Jews. 
                  
                  But you know, LEF you think Korea is the same as Vietnam- and you and I have been there before.  I'm not interested in arguing silly minded semantics with you. 
                  
                  
                  There is more than Hitler, than his "death toll."

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   rhamsonposted 13 years ago

   While I don't agree with all of what Mao has written there is some insight and intellect in what he writes.  You can pick and choose what you like but I don't think you can collapse all of his domains without a look.
   
   A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   All reactionaries are paper tigers.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Despise the enemy strategically, but take him seriously tactically.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Enable every woman who can work to take her place on the labour front, under the principle of equal pay for equal work.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Genuine equality between the sexes can only be realized in the process of the socialist transformation of society as a whole.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   I voted for you during your last election.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   In general, any form of exercise, if pursued continuously, will help train us in perseverance. Long-distance running is particularly good training in perseverance.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   In time of difficulties, we must not lose sight of our achievements.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   In waking a tiger, use a long stick.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Investigation may be likened to the long months of pregnancy, and solving a problem to the day of birth. To investigate a problem is, indeed, to solve it.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Learn from the masses, and then teach them.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Once all struggle is grasped, miracles are possible.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Passivity is fatal to us. Our goal is to make the enemy passive.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   People like me sound like a lot of big cannons.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Political work is the life-blood of all economic work.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   Swollen in head, weak in legs, sharp in tongue but empty in belly.
   Mao Tse-Tung
   
   
   Just because he was a communist doesn't make all his observations invalid.

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   ledefensetechposted 13 years ago

   It still doesn't change the fact that Mao killed more people than Hitler or Stalin.  Uh oh, I used the dreaded H-word in the forums.  Bauer was the fall guy because Obama made the promise that Guantanamo would be closed in a year and it looks like that isn't going to happen now.  Since Bauer wasn't part of the Chicago Mob, he got the ax.

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      rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well I guess you can't separate the subject from the verb.  I merely posted these in response to the reaction some people had to the womens reference of admiring Mao.  If you can't separate the knowledge and the actions then you are doomed to only the acceptable knowledge.  You only get half an education that way.

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   Madame Xposted 13 years ago

   What a cute little list of bumper stickers
   
   What do any of them have to do with real life.

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      rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I guess you are the meat and potato type.

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         Madame Xposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         When someone is as evil as Mao, and causes so much suffering to so many, I don't give two hoots what else he did or said. Half an education? There are plenty of others who said similar things who were actually good people - I'll expand my education through them. Mao can rot in hell.

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            rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Well, those who choose to ignore knowledge are well.........?

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   RKHenryposted 13 years ago

   It isn't about WHO has killed more people. 
   
   That is a level of pettiness, I cannot even try to comprehend.
   
   Seriously, you honestly think that's the point?  Really?
   
   Amazing.  The stupid, pettiness seems to have no bounds.  I don't get it. 
   
   Killing 1 person, is just as horrible as killing 100 billion people.
   
   If you note, and took the time to read the my post you would have noticed I listed the words, "accomplishment and achieved." 
   
   What Hitler was able.........never mind. 
   
   It's pointless ramble. 
   Unbelievable.

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      Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      pointless ramble. no shit... never fear you are not alone.  I'm outta this place... its all ramble anyhow. a few intelligent folk among a countless mass of idiots.

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      ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I never said it was important who killed people.  You did when you said Hitler was in a class all his own:
      
      
      
      I don't care who it was who killed, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.  Nobody should quote then and consider any of them a political mentor for any reason whatsoever.  Their actions forever divorced them from the rest of humanity and should be forever derided as the beasts they proved themselves to be in life.

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         RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You made it about the numbers.
         
         Own it, the pettiness was all yours.  Own it.

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            Madame Xposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            He only quoted the numbers to make his point RK - I think you guys are agreeing.

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               Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               its all petty.
               
               Time Warner/AKA the Israeli lobby group having paying shooting the sh1t out of palestine for god knows how many years.  the jews hung up christ. done. dusted. get over.  you can put put a nasty word either side of jew or muslim today. why?  its all trash and your all going nowhere. f6ckwads.  seriously.  I'm gettin out. be better of on junk seriously (thats a joke Henry).  get a clue.

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                  Madame Xposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What?

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                     Bovine Currencyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     read.  read books ffs.
                     
                     google is not a library people. read a god damn book.

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                        Madame Xposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Obviously you're trying to say something and I still don't know what it is. You have no idea if I read books or not so your arrow missed it's mark. Is it ok with you if I ask you to clarify? Or am I beneath your consideration?

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                           ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           It sounds like an updated version of the Protocols of Zion or some such.  You know, there's a great Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

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                              RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Yeah, let me know when that happens.

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                                 ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Funny thing is, my mother's maiden name is Valero.  There are apparently quite a few Jewish Valeros in the world.  I suppose they're Sephardic Jews from Spain.  Interestingly enough, many of them are doctors, just like many of my relatives on my mom's side of the family.  Something of a family tradition, I'd imagine.

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               RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I concur.

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            ledefensetechposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It's cool, man.  This is personal to you in a way it can never be to me.  I'm arguing from reason, you're arguing from emotion.  It's cool.  I get that.

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               RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               There is no emotion involved.  You made it about the number of dead people.  I'm arguing that what Hitler was able to accomplish and achieve, with the overwhelming support of his people, is something we haven't seen since.  So if you would like to disagree on that merit of respect, I'm happy to do so.

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   Bovine Currencyposted 13 years ago

   Fact: Mao killed more than Hitler
   Fact: The world media is controlled by Jewish Moguls
   Fact: CEO of Time Warner was CEO of Fannie Mac up to July 2008
   Fact: Israel is responsible for countless untried war crimes
   Fact: I am not anti-semetic
   Fact: The US and its coporate Heads fund wars that are illegal under international law
   Fact: Anti-islamic sentiment is excused but the truth about Zion and the Christian church is excused

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