Do you give science the credit for the decline of religion?
religion has been on the decline for decades, do you think science is the main reason or what is your opinion for the decline.
As people become more educated, they see the folly of organized religions. The purpose of organized religions is to control the population and to transfer power unto religious authorities. Religious authorities know this and use this. Religious authorities do not believe half the dogma they try to inculcate into their congregants and followers. Such religious authorities use such dogma to keep their followers and congregants from thinking and acting independently. However, as more people become educated, they see religion for what it is, something to keep them dependent and childlike. People want to to be in charge of their lives and religion oftentimes preclude people from doing that.
Many people were also religious because societies were not as advanced scientifically. People oftentimes did not comprehend events and/or occurrences beyond their control so they attributed those things to supernatural control, instead of nature. As science became more advanced, many natural occurences could be explained. In the Middle Ages, people who are mentally ill or physically challenged were deemed to be demonically possessed; however, as time progressed and there were scientific advancements, these things were attributed to mental illness and/or a disease. Advancements in science are offering verifiable explanations and evidence that were once in the province of organized religions.
Also, people are beginning to see beyond religion for their spirituality. Many people are becoming spiritual and connected to God or the Universal Force unrelated to belonging to a particular religion or a church. They view God and spirituality as part of life instead of a separate part of existence. They see spirituality as inclusive of life as opposed to religions which preach exclusivity of life.
Thank you indeed. Your response is greatly appreciated.
I couldn't disagree more. Religion does not and will not ever keep someone childlike. If anything, having faith helps one to grow up and become mature. I know many very intelligent Christians who are in charge of their lives being led by Jesus.
No, I do not blame science for the decline of religion because science is a state knowledge of the physical world (whether the subject deals with things visible or invisible to the naked eye) and has nothing to do with religion. There are varying reasons for people's choice to act immoral, unethical, and/or commit illegal activities that we witness or hear about daily. Most of the reasons for the decline of religion have to do with the choices of individuals and groups who choose to be immoral, unethical, and/or illegal and have absolutely nothing to do with science.
it has nothing to do with being immoral, unethical etc. how does the decline of religion have anything to do with such things?
What I am saying is that science has nothing to do with religion, it's an individual's choice to be religious and science has nothing to do with it, individual choices and preferences has a lot to do with it.
Of course Science is one of the major variables that is destroying the myths and superstitions that have plagued man since prehistoric times. It is now apparent, through scientific discoveries, that the God of the Bible and Quran or nonsensical entities invented by ignorant ancient charlatans. Those who still refuse to acknowledge that Science has totally destroyed religion are just helpless against their indoctrination and need to find the strength to evolve.
Science can only explain so much, but what they're trying to explain is based on the same evidence everyone can see. What they can't see might very well be just as important, but, I don't see an atheist admitting that they're evil any time soon. Atheists don't believe they can be evil just because God says they are.
Nah, I think Satan should get the credit for the decline of religion, because Satan is actively working against us. He tries to get us to blame God instead of ourselves, or blame anything really except for our selves, for the sinful condition of the planet that we're living on is in.
But science offers a great alternate reality where God doesn't exist, and they aren't sinners. But Christians do it too when they say things like God did away with this or that law, or whatever. We all try to make ourselves "not sinners" in some way, and the disease is spreading no matter who or what it is that it spreads to, and destroys people's faith in God.
I believe evil has an origin, and that Satan is that origin of evil, because Satan was corrupt before he tempted Eve... Otherwise he wouldn't have tempted Eve.
Gotta give the devil his due, he is very crafty.
Science is the means by which we ask questions, test hypothesis and try to understand how and why things are the way they are. Science works with that which can be tested, answers questions by study and builds knowledge and understanding through models and theories. It should not be used to condemn anything without warrant or criticize without proof. Religion is in decline for many many reasons, but there are many people who still have faith, many scientist remain faithful to the concept that there may be a god of some kind, Darwin was still faithful to the end.
Atheism is a type of religion in its own way and in many cases is as extreme and fanatical, Atheism is not scientific a scientist has to keep an open mind until absolute proof is gained and that is very difficult as the truth can change with current opinion and the desire to fit in.
Science is not responsible but people use it as a direct opposition to religion which is not the way it should be.
Evolution happened and is happening but as a person interested in science and genetic evolution I still would not condemn anybody with faith.
Organised religions are just books written by men.
Science is the mere study of what God already knows. Archaeological findings increase my faith, not decrease it. Psychologists increase my faith too. Many times they suggest something that works but it was in the Bible before they thought of it.
We have a decline in religion because people are selfish, lovers of themselves, need instant gratification. Society has caused the decline. Not science.
After making prayer in schools illegal - which is ridiculous all by itself in my opinion, many parents have just outright quit taking their children to church.
If I didn't speak English to my child, they probably wouldn't learn that either!
BG, love your hubs on Native American culture. I must say here, though, that many of us DID grow up learning "to speak Religion" and have come a long journey, hopefully not selfish nor self-gratifying, to find soulful answers to righteous questions.
Thank you Billie. No not all, just the ones who fall down before the Hollywood throne.
oops, my daughter is an actress in Hollywood. You might find her upcoming screenplay, if it makes it actually TO the screen, delightful and sweet. BTW, reading "Second Son"- lots of native historical references - would love your take on it some day
I give science the credit for expanding our minds to continue our exploration of the reason for our existence, the answer of which is neither clear nor defined, and which any Divine Planner would seem to want us to explore and to not cease exploring. Science is the gift creation gives to discover our meaning.
I'll agree with that. Science is a gift. I believe so much...when I got to some place, like Big Springs/ Blue Springs/Bennett Springs...there is something sacred there, but it is not science for me. It is the Creator & the feeling of who was th
the answer lies within us , how we are using the science in our day to day activity ,science is also the creation of god so i don't think science is the reason for this .
the reason is we , the people
when we know the things that relate to religion , we should do it , if we are not doing it , so mean we are the culprit .
eg . suppose we have a prayer session on sunday and if we are not able to attend it on correct time due to heave traffic , we should not blame to traffic , rather we should thing that , if we could have start little early , we can reach on time
Faith and Science are quite compatible. Many of the worlds top scientists are indeed devout religious people and people of faith, as well as the majority of Doctors. That is a direct contradiction to the false assumption many have that people of science are too smart to believe in God.
The decline in organized religion is not necessarily a decline in faith. Many people like myself have issues with some of the man made rules that often change within an organized religion. That does not make me any less faithful. I have chosen to remain active in my parish, others have not. But I think it's foolish to assume that because someone doesn't regularly attend mass or some other religious service that they are not people of faith. Some of us are more spiritual than technically religious in the traditional sense. But that does not imply that we have abandoned faith in God because of a series of scientific discoveries. Christianity itself was born out of revolt against another organized religion and it's leaders.
I don't think science is the reason for the decline of religion. The problem with religion is that they have so many conflicting theories in their teachings and get people frustrated. Religion indoctrinates and try to shape people according to their doctrines ..Spirituality is not the same . I am spiritual but i am not religious. I believe there is a higher being above all of us. It.s between me and my god and i do not need religion to be in union with my god.
Religion and science are different sectors of our society, they don't need to approved one another always for science believe only that it will be proven by experiments and with proofs and answer HOW while religion answers why and dwell mostly on spiritual being of man.
I don't think religion is in decline. Perhaps reporting is better. Before modern times, there may have been many who did not believe, but went through the motions because it was popular or healthy to do so.
But some scientists are just as corrupt as some religious. Where ego is involved, any human endeavor can become corrupt.
Take for instance Scientists Under Attack for questioning Monsanto's GMOs:
Or the NIST scientists cartoon fantasy in their final report on WTC7 for 9/11.
They would have us believe that solid steel sometimes offers zero resistance to bending, breaking or compression. And the Corporate Party media is eating it up. They have that handy little weapon to demonize any smart guys -- "conspiracy theorists." Works nearly every time, with people who have low attention spans and/or high ego.
Try this on for size:
Fact: WTC7 fell at perfect free fall for 8 floors (NIST & David Chandler YouTube)
Fact: Free Fall = zero resistance
Fact: Solid steel never offers zero resistance.
If you understand the above facts, you're smarter (or more ethical) than NIST scientists.
Science studies the products of creation. They deal with continuity-based reality (time, space, energy, state levels, etc).
Religion, in its purest form, deals with the sources of creation and phenomena based on discontinuity -- forgiveness, creation, inspiration, miracles and the like.
Ego-corrupted religion is not a pretty sight. In it, members hold their interpretation above the holy work itself.
Ego-corrupted science is not pretty either. In it, members commit fraud or create complete fictions in support of their Corporate Party bosses.
Global warming? Some scientists disagree. Sure there's been some climate "turbulence," with warming in some areas, cooling in others, greater droughts, and greater floods. But there are a psychopathic few who are not above committing all manner of crimes to push "global warming" in order to push their "carbon tax" and enslave humanity just a little bit more.
Conspiracy? Naw! There's never been a conspiracy in the history of humanity. Those things just don't happen. Or do they?
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