How do you feel about President Obama's prisoner exchange?

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   Mmargie1966posted 10 years ago

   How do you feel about President Obama's prisoner exchange?
   
   Are you angry? Do you think it's a bad idea? Are you happy and feel we are making progress towards peace?

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   zacharybrownposted 10 years ago

   I disagree with the PResident's decision. As a Veteran myself I cannot abide negotiating with terrorists for any reason. The second issue that I have with the decision deals with the fact that the government and Bergdahl's unit determined that he was a deserter and potential a Taliban sympathizer. Releasing 5 known terrorists to get back a deserter simply doesn't make sense.

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   junksellerposted 10 years ago

   I don't think it matters. Our public discourse has literally fractured from reality. Facts and actuality don't have anything to do with it. On my Facebook page yesterday someone posted a photo of a guy kneeling behind five severed heads and the poster was contending that the person in the photo was one of the detainees Obama released. He wasn't of course, but the accuracy is irrelevant. To the We-Hate-Obama-Club, Obama has released the spawn of Satan and the soldier we got for it was a deserter, traitor, wussy who got his fellow soldiers killed. That narrative will NEVER change no matter what is said or what evidence is presented.
   
   So what is the point of even engaging in what is pure delusion?
   
   In reality this was a simple prisoner exchange. Considering the grand scope of things not terribly news-worthy. Theses things happen all the time in war. Bush, for example, released hundreds of detainees (just over 500 I think), some of whom re-joined terrorist groups, a couple of whom became top leaders. Was a big fuss made then? Nope. The difference in fuss being made essentially proves that this has absolutely nothing to do with the actual exchange and everything to do with partisan spit-fights. It is children playing a game of grown-ups.

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      Superkevposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Why would the narrative change? He walked away from his post and joined the Taliban. At least 6 good men lost their lives trying to find him. Probably more. Obama released 5 tier 1 persons in exchange for what he knew was a deserter. These are facts.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The only fact is that you have no actual idea what happened to Bergdahl, why he did what he did, if anyone died looking for him, what the threat assessment is on the released prisoners, or what handling will be in place to monitor them.

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      Superkevposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Wrong. He deserted, why is irrelevant. 6 soldiers died during the search for him, that is documented fact. At least one of the detainees has already stated he will return to the fight and none of them are under any type of security. Try again.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You evidently don't know what desertion means. You obviously also don't know what a fact is. I'm not going to waste time on your fantasies. I'll wait for actual evidence and facts before proclaiming truths like an imbecile.

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      Superkevposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Really? I served 8 years in the USMC and I do know what desertion means, I am certain you don't. DoD investigation said in 2010 that he deserted, are you saying now that report is not true? For you to deny those 6 men died searching is despicable.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Really? Wow, I served 8 minutes on my computer and learned more than you. Desertion requires intent, which is unknown and all you know about the classified report is anonymous hearsay, which only said he walked off. Despicable is claims w/o knowledge

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      Superkevposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Really? Intent? HE WALKED OFF AND LEFT A NOTE SAYING HE WAS LEAVING. How's that for intent? The fact that DoD determined he deserted is not classified. It was released publicly. I know you want to protect your boy, but there is no saving him from it.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I want to protect reality and facts. His status was missing-captured: http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release … seID=12827 and the note is a rumor at best. As I said, I prefer waiting for credible information before making judgements.

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      Mmargie1966posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I happen to know from a reliable inside source, that not only did he desert his post, but was planning (and succeeded) to give information to the Taliban.  I also know there is a ton of cash being thrown around. That's all I can say right now.

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       junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       That's fine. You may have special knowledge, but the general public has been given almost zero credible, specific facts about this case and claiming otherwise is just plain wrong. Innocence should be defended until PROVEN guilty.

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   Superkevposted 10 years ago

   As a former Marine I not only disagree but feel like it is a slap in the face of everyone who served over there and especially his platoon mates. It was a well known fact that he deserted and a formal investigation backed that up.
   
   He was in no danger and there was certainly no reason for Obama to ignore the law and release 5 tier 1 personalities back on the battlefield without the advice and consent of congress.
   
   He broke the law (again) and you have to ask yourself why and why now?
   
   For 5 years they housed, fed and protected him and, suddenly, he was in grave danger from these same people? Yeah, OK.
   
   He is a deserter and a traitor, he should face courts-martial and serve significant time in a military brig at minimum.

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   Mac31posted 10 years ago

   I am sure everyone that is currently serving and a veteran like I am are pretty pissed off.  Bergdahl's decisions to desert his unit and his country caused other units including his own to put their lives on the line to try and find him, because of his decisions.  Wouldn't you be pissed off if soldiers in your unit were killed because of this guys poor decisions? 
   
   As far as the decision to negotiate with the enemy is really bad and goes against everything that we are told from boot camp, which is to do whatever it takes to not be captured.  This is because you will either be killed or the United States will NEVER negotiate with the enemy just like Bergdahl's case.  This is going to open up the flood gates for all enemy's of the United States and could actually make it worse for US tourist  that visit other countries.
   
   Unfortunately, we will never have peace and that has to be looked at as a reality.  No matter what we try to do we will never have peace.  Religion is one of many reasons why we will never have peace and as long as there are resources that one country can profit from there is always going to be another country that is going to try to take it from them one way or another.

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