What is President Obama's secret agenda?
Mitt's not so secret agenda: two Cadillacs in every garage and Kobe beef in every pot.
Driveway in Romney's Home Town deedsphotoAnd there's me thinking he was in the race for the good of the population.
Well he likes to give lots of concessions to our enemies. Shhhhh, "I'll talk with Vladimir after I get re elected." *wink* *wink*
Greetings, Onus. I thank you for sharing your viewpoints with us.
I thought I might make an effort to demonstrate there is usually more than one side to every issue. Your post above makes three points: US missiles in Poland, possible disclosure of trident serial numbers, and the national debt. I must admit I have no experience as a leader of the world’s only super power nor does my resume include any qualifications for the job. For this reason, I have to do a lot of research before I attempt to pass judgement on any President’s policies. Allow me to share some things I’ve learned.
1. Missiles or Butter
Missiles in Poland and the growing national debt are both closely related to one other, often overlooked, global reality: the cold war is over. While tension and suspicion still run high, the US and Russia have both been working for decades to “normalize” their relationship. Co-operation and transparency are essential to this process. Remember the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis? The US was ready to go to war when Russia placed missiles 90 miles off our shore.(1) Consider how the Russians feel about our missiles in Poland.
Furthermore, regaining control of the US national debt must include increases in taxes and reductions in spending. Department of Defense budgets down the road will be a large chunk of the latter. Therefore, when I look at the bigger picture, I see the elimination of unnecessary missiles from Poland as a positive step toward stemming our National spending appetite.
2. Trident Missile Serial Numbers
WikiLeak disclosures include cables indicating the US may have wanted to use the serial numbers of Trident missiles delivered to the UK as bargaining chips during the New START Treaty negotiations between the US and Russia in 2009. It remains uncertain if these serial numbers were of past or future purchases and whether any serial numbers were actually revealed. The UK has been mum on this subject and a US State Department called a story in a British newspaper “bunk.” Regardless, even if true, the entire matter is a moot point.
“In 2010 British Foreign Secretary William Hague declared that the country had "up to 160" nuclear warheads in inventory, although did not disclose number of missiles.” (2) The New START Treaty signed in April of that year limits the US and Russia to no more than 1,550 deployed warheads on each side. A report on the provisions of the treaty prepared by the Congressional Research Service for Members and Committees of Congress includes these observations: “Many analysts hoped the New START Treaty would cut more deeply into U.S. and Russian forces, reducing them to perhaps 1,000 warheads on each side…
And some speculate that, if the United States and Russia reduce their forces below 1,000 deployed warheads, the negotiations would have to include China, France, and Great Britain, the other declared nuclear weapons states under the NPT.” (Non-Proliferation Treaty)(3)
In other words, the exact number of warheads in the UK arsenal and the number of missiles available to deliver them are pale when compared to the 3100 warheads controlled by the US and Russia.
I admire your attention to world events, Onus. I encourage you to keep digging for all of the facts and to step back occassionally to take in the bigger picture. Now, could you please put your gun away?
(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
(2) http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=11409
(3) http://lugar.senate.gov/issues/start/pdf/R41219.pdf, p. 28
Poppycock and reactionary twaddle! He was implying that he was in the midst of an election and wasn't free to negotiate anything because his political enemies would try to exploit anything he said—and guess what, he was right by the looks of your comment.
Your ideology obviously determined your prejudicial comment.
I'm having a fine day, thanks, LH, and I stand by what I said. Obama is not an ideologue and I don't think enemies like Osama bin Laden thought Obama conceded anything.
The only concessions by Obama have been to give Republicans in the congress the benefit of the doubt in hopes that they might compromise on legislation to get America back on track. The real enemies of America, and especially the middle class, are the surrogates of big money and corporations in Congress.
I heard a woman suggest today that this GOP is simply not willing to accept a black man as prez. She also said that in her opinion, the war on women is retribution for women supporting Obama.
Here's what the most trusted news source has said about him:
"Fox News has a long history of race-baiting attacks on Obama.
Just last year, Fox News host Eric Bolling said Obama was hosting "hoodlum[s]" in "the hizzouse" referring to the White House hosting Ali Bongo, the Gabonese president, and American hip-hop artist and actor, Common.
Bolling also drew heavy criticism after posting to his Twitter account that Obama was "Chuggging 40's" in Ireland "while tornadoes ravage MO."
Former Fox New host Glenn Beck once infamously called President Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people." Beck also suggested that Obama refused to meet with a BP chief because he was a "white CEO."
Recently, discussing the controversial shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, Fox News' Dick Morris said Obama "intervened" in the case because he wants to "rekindle the sense of black victimization."
Henderson's comments, in response to Dan Rather's statement that "race will be a factor in this presidential campaign," serves as a reminder that Fox News itself could play a role in amplifying the role that race plays in the 2012 campaign."
Naaaahhhhhhhh, you think?
are cherries red?
Oink! Oink!
You're just dead wrong and your cynicism is defeatist. These problems have gotten worse because Americans have been lazy and complacent while the the corporate weasels figured out how to steal our kids' futures. We have no one to blame but ourselves for not participating in government.
I didn't put anything there but the truth. I fight every day for social justice and to feed the poor and hungry. I take part in politics but I see no reason for more of the same. America is falling down and the political spin game continues. We need politicians who will roll up their sleeves and get busy saving America. We don't need more political spin games played out to keep the American peoples minds off of the real issues facing America.
I really believe that if the men who created this country were alive today that they would call for revolution.
The modern politicians on both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats have sold out America. All you have to look at is NAFTA. Both parties pushed it through and now you have ghost towns all over the American south.
Look at Detroit and what has happened there. Whole neighborhoods stand there empty and falling down. Gary Indiana is a ghost town. The automobile industry was destroyed by both parties. Both parties allowed this to happen.
Gary Indiana Now Mostly A Ghost Town
New Orleans Homeless
The only way that the American dream can ever be restored is by stopping doing business as usual. We have to create strict term limits on the senate and congress. We would be a lot better off if a US President served one six year term. We need to get rid of lobbyist and make politicians answer for what they do. Every US Politician should be for America first and to hell with the rest of the world. America is broke and someone better fix it or were going to have problems in this country like no one has seen yet.
Political spin games are never going to fix America's problems. I say throw all the bums out of office and start over. Radical change is the only thing that is ever going to change America. Business as usual and political spin is never going to work.
Yeah, of course—America needs more enemies and more wars. What is it with people who always resort to fear-mongering and their Them-vs.-Us mentalities?
There's the difference, amberld, you aren't narrow-minded and resentful!
There's that old, tired word that Liberals throw around when they can't think of anything else to say.
Racist.
Wow, Quill, I would have thought you could do better. LH, you shrewdly escaped Quill's accusation and label of your comments because you are smart enough not to use a racial epithet. But your expressions are all filled with an obstinate conviction that your prejudiced ideology is the only way to see reality. As if a poorly-run, underfunded DMV in a ultraconservative state with an undereducated populace is equivalent to a well-run national health program like Medicare is beyond absurd. And if you were old enough to be on Medicare, you would know that.
If you are going to sling labels like "Liberals" around and hurl pejoratives at people because they disagree with your resentful opinions, then, to be accurate, your rhetoric is just plain ignorant and your expressions, though not those of an overt racist, are most definitely that of a bigot and a narrow-minded fool.
Longhunter wrote:
Have you been to the DMV lately?
Go to the one closest to your house. Sit for a while. Play a game of "What's that smell?" Then decided if you'd want our government to be in charge of who gets what medically.
. . .
Last time I went, it took over two hours, I was one of only a few that spoke English, and the smell was unbelievable. The only things missing were cages made of sticks and twine containing chickens and pigs on leashes although a couple of the kids running around very closely resembled them.
LH, try to read your own remarks with an objective eye. I based my responses to you on your flagrant petty bigotry that is, in direct and simple terms, unconscious ignorance. The very same characteristics you project onto the people "who can't speak English at the DMV."
You live in an either/or world filled with blame for "Them!" — that is, people who don't share your values and opinions.
Your words often expose a sensibility of resentment, frustration, anger and intolerance.
Worse yet, you exhibit a ridiculous illogic that is beyond simplistic — it borders on the imbecilic. Roughly, here it is. The people at my local DMV smell and don't speak English and they represent "government"—therefore all government is bad and therefore healthcare is bad—even though 93% of the people on Medicare surveyed, rate it a satisfactory program.
You evade every point that directly proves your thinking wrong and redirect the dialogue with more petty-minded examples of your prejudice.
Your posts are unworthy of any attention or respect.
bigotry |ˈbigətrē|
noun
bigoted attitudes; intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself : the report reveals right-wing bigotry. See note at bias.
Hi Long. Actually, I didn’t need to do better. The word is quite appropriate to describe the tone and content of your remarks and it has nothing to do with my political bent or yours. Opinions are like rectums, Quill. Everybody's got one. And your opinion of my remarks matter to me about as much what comes out of said rectum.
Shhh! The plan is secret. We are centralizing the banking system.
Well, that's the problem isn't it? Has anyone else been spammed by Presidential candidates yet? It costs money to spam, ironically. Money is the oligarchy, deity, or whatever other label you want to apply. Because the US election system allows for such leniency where advertising/promotional matters are concerned, there will always be accusations on all sides of foul play.
I doubt any of us are so naive as to believe the President actually has time to get involved with e-mails and commercials, much as we'd like to believe he is reaching out to each of us personally.
When election years impend, sitting Presidents are mildly distracted, but their schedules don't allow for many e-mails or commercials
Don't forget this guy with secrets:
Mitt Romney spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007 as part of an unprecedented effort to keep his records secret
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z1rjkZhtmz
maybe he learned that trick at Bain capital, from his boss-lady, of the MossadHe sure walks like one. What is that? quick quick quick little steps.
Anyway--I think it's safe to say he has "palled around with terrorists" --only Palin won't mention it--so I have to.
sigh--I always have to do the right's job for them
Oooops, strike that: Santorum did a dang good job himself...and I mean that sincerely. He was spot on about Romney.
- buddhaanalysisposted 12 years ago
0 I think that Obama's hidden agenda lies within the messages he receives through the water heater in his White House bathroom.
All of these rumors! Muslim? Arab? Nigerian? Conspiracy?
Part Irish . . . all Irish! Have you never heard of the "Black Irish?"Is this better?
"Don't tell them, Dad!"Looks American to me.
The Hawaiians say Obama is the first Hawaiian president. They claim he was born there. It is no matter. If the Hawaiians see your stoke and recognize your aloha, they may accept you as an Hawaiian. If they do, you are now an Hawaiian. You can see his stoke and he has the aloha spirit. So, Obama is Hawaiian. The Hawaiians know!
- idratherbeposted 12 years ago0
I believe Obama's secret agenda is to unveil a US unemployment rate of 4.99% sometime late summer at the same time gasoline prices drop to $2.15 a gallon.
I believe Obama has the power to singlehandedly effect these changes because he is the POTUS and we expect no less from him.
He is simply waiting for the strategic moment. He hasn't revealed his secrets yet because he has learned (the hard way) that our untrusting populace has a short and selective memory and are wont to forget or minimize his actions (see Osama bin Laden execution for reference).
I believe Mr. Obama has been studying his timing by watching the masters like O'Brien, Letterman, and Maher.
If you recall the moment when he finally whipped out the old HI BC, this will be a lot like that. Only bigger and badder.
Well, you asked! I am as entitled to my version of the OSA (Obama Secret Agenda) as much as the next prognosticator!LH, whatever way you want to label me is fine, but please know that some people in my family, whom I love and care about, were and are ignorant, racists, bigots, hypocrites and fools.
But if you are going to label yourself a "Christian," I'm compelled to point out that the only people Christ would not tolerate were the moneychangers in the temple—otherwise, he associated with (and evidently got along with) the ignorant, tax-collectors, prostitutes and all other forms of sinners. He also said judge not lest you be judged.
Nor do I have a problem with you being conservative and I especially identify with your impulse to preserve what's best about America—especially its generosity of spirit. But many of the so-called "Christian Conservatives" I've come across are often closed-minded zealots who are neither tolerant of others who differ in view or Christian towards people of other faith.
I'm not saying all Conservative Christians are that way, but if any objective person reads many of your posts, I think they would view you as someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. Sorry if this upsets you—I believe it to be true but I am not judging you, rather, I focus on your rhetoric and not the person.
Beyond that, you never seem to give reasonable and rational argumentation when it comes to Obama. It's always in the form of calumny and misinformation, mixed with vitriolic personal opinion. You are, in some ways, like my Rush-fanatic brother-in-law who is an insecure, unfulfilled angry little man (with a heart of gold) and his own worst enemy. That is to say, he's a tedious pain in the ass who habitually wallows in his unhappiness by acting out and ruining every conversation at the holiday dinner table.
he did "destroy" the constitution—along with the economy and America's standing in the world
And this what the other side thinks of Obama.
Have a good weekend, Wizard.Now, how did I know you'd say that?
Because the facts trump opinion every time!
- Longhunterposted 12 years ago0
Hypocrites-R-Us Department:
We aren't alone in this.Sure.
Obama's secret agenda: Four more years. SSSSHHHHHH! It's a secret!
Don't change the point—are you saying these images don't display racism, hatred, bigotry and intolerance?
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