Which Political Party Wants To Make It Harder For Citizens To Vote And Why?

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  1. vveasey profile image84
    vveaseyposted 4 years ago

    Which Political Party Wants To Make It Harder For Citizens To Vote And Why?


  2. The Frog Prince profile image72
    The Frog Princeposted 4 years ago

    Sounds like an extremely partisan question to me.  The answer lies with the citizens of this nation and not a party.  Voting is a privilege of being a "citizen" of this nation.  Lets ensure a fair system and if your question is geared toward requiring a valid ID card in order to prove who you are when you enter the polling place then I suggest you think about how often you also have to produce one in the course of everyday life.

    1. lisavollrath profile image94
      lisavollrathposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      If you don't drive, don't have a bank account or credit cards, and are self-employed, you pretty much never have to show an ID in the course of everyday life.

    2. dashingscorpio profile image86
      dashingscorpioposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I have no problem with requiring an ID. However when states cut the number of voting machines, cut the number of days/hours for early voting, and eliminate Sunday early voting days in areas that have had it for years....Sounds like discouragement

    3. Robert the Bruce profile image60
      Robert the Bruceposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not Demo or Repub, but why shouldn't a person be required to prove who they are to vote? Proof of identity is common procedure for many things we do in society. Should an illegal immigrant be allowed to walk into a polling station and vote?

    4. Ericdierker profile image54
      Ericdierkerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      If you drive, if you buy insurance, R rated movies, attend school, write a check, withdraw money at a bank, get a passport, drink alcohol, enter bars, rent a car, buy a house, sell a house or car.  All of those require ID

    5. lisavollrath profile image94
      lisavollrathposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Eric, there are a lot of people in this country that simply don't have the means to do any of those things. They don't own cars or homes, get paid in cash, and can't afford movies, a bar, or travel that requires a passport.

    6. wmhoward4 profile image74
      wmhoward4posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Frog prince, you are right this is a partisan question. The same people who want us to be identified by our big government for all we do, somehow does NOT want voters to be IDed. ACCORN types vote fradulently in droves.

  3. lisavollrath profile image94
    lisavollrathposted 4 years ago

    In theory, the Republican party wants to require photo ID like a driver's license, or a state-issued voting license, in order to vote. The reason cited has been the reduction of voter fraud, but out of hundreds of millions of ballots cast since 2000, there have only been 633 confirmed incidents of fraud. There is also a feeling that requiring a photo ID might deter illegal aliens from attempting to vote.

    Also in theory, requiring an ID to vote makes it more difficult for those who are on the lower end of the earnings scale to vote, because obtaining a valid photo ID takes time and cash, both of which are more difficult for that group of people to spare.

    There is a feeling that putting any obstacle between a citizen and the voting booth is akin to a poll tax, which the Supreme Court has ruled unconstitutional.

    1. dashingscorpio profile image86
      dashingscorpioposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Even with the ID many places are cutting the number of early voting days, the number of ballot machines, and places that allowed Sunday early voting which helped seniors & many who work during traditional voting hours seemed designed to stop them

  4. BernietheMovieGuy profile image67
    BernietheMovieGuyposted 4 years ago

    There is a simple solution here.  Every person who is entitled to vote (read: legal living citizen of the United States of America) should be provided with a free voter ID at the time they register to vote.  In New York, our procedure is extremely simplified.  I can walk in, sign my name and vote.  Most of the time, I know the folks at the polling place and they know me.  But once in a while, when someone new works my polling place, I have to introduce myself all over again.  No one asks me for my ID.  My signature never looks the same twice.  In fact, unless you DID know me, I should probably be challenged EVERY time I go to vote.  In fact, nothing could stop me from going to every voting place in the county, saying I'm someone else and signing that name and voting on that other voter's behalf.  A woman recently boasted about having voted for her whole family.  That's asinine!  Voter ID is a simple way to reduce voter fraud.

    Right now, it's too easy to "game" the system.  ACORN was cited several years back for registering dead people to vote.  Even today, I get copies of the registered voter lists from my local Board of Elections.  There are hundreds of people registered in my town who are either deceased or who have moved from (or never even lived in) the district years ago.  It would be very easy for me to sign their name, vote on their behalf and never have to worry about them personally showing up to vote for themselves.

    Something has to be done.  Why should someone who isn't a citizen be allowed to vote for the leaders of a country they have no vested interest in?  It's ridiculous that we're even having this discussion.  If you aren't a citizen or alive you shouldn't have the right to vote.  Period!

  5. junkseller profile image83
    junksellerposted 4 years ago

    If the Republicans really were interested in fraud and not in preventing Democrats from voting, then they would work to implement these changes well ahead of elections, they wouldn't put so much effort into slashing early voting and Sunday voting, they wouldn't allow people to vote with a hunting license/current military ID but not a student ID/veteran's card, etc. They would also go after actual fraud that is occurring and not the kind of fraud which is as rare as a leprechaun riding a unicorn. Of course actual fraud doesn't favor the Democrats so it is conveniently ignored.

    The ID efforts are partisan hackery, and is so obviously so that anyone who can't see it has no functioning brain cells.

    Equally idiotic are the "you need an ID to live life..." people. Obviously people who don't have an ID, or don't have the proper ID are in fact living life just fine. It doesn't really matter what you think about whether their lives are possible. Their lives ARE possible. Reality proves reality.

    Honestly, the last time I remember showing an ID for anything was to vote, which was a couple months ago. I don't have a car, don't drink or go to bars, do my banking online, and almost no one asks for ID for credit transactions anymore.

    Keep in mind, it isn't necessarily having an ID or not, in some cases it is having the proper ID, which might mean up-to-date with current information.

    This is one of those no-brainer topics that I can't believe people actually talk about. Even more incredible, there seem to be people who actually believe the Republicans care about fraud. Demographically, the Republicans can not win a fair fight. Everyone knows it, and everyone knows that their only chance is manipulating voting boundaries and voter turnout. To think these ID efforts aren't entirely about cheating to win is monumental stupidity.

  6. wmhoward4 profile image74
    wmhoward4posted 4 years ago

    Hmmmm Did you know that in the People's Republic of Maryland dead folks do vote the same way as in Chicago?

    Did you know that military ballots are often not counted?

    Why? More dead people vote for Democrats and the military do not.

    Maryland is run by mostly Democrats. This is also why illegal aliens are allowed to get drivers licenses and Motor Voter is right at the DMV.

  7. lone77star profile image81
    lone77starposted 4 years ago

    This is such a non-issue.

    The bigger and only real issue is the fact that voting has been co-opted by the only real party -- the Corporate Party.

    The Left-Right paradigm is such a farce, because both parties are practically the same on all issues important to their bosses in the Corporate Party -- pro-War, pro-Empire Building, pro-Big Government, pro-Big Spending -- all of which means more $ for the corporate bottom line.

    Some election officials in Florida for the 2000 election reported irregularities like negative votes for Gore. Negative votes is like negative distance -- it can't happen. "How tall are you?" "Minus 3 feet." Really!?

    Not only have our voting machines been hacked, but the selection process for which candidates we see has been manipulated, too. Take Ron Paul during the 2012 election. The Republican club had numerous incidents of votes not counted, votes ignored, and votes changed. Duly elected delegates were ignored. One chairman was arrested for "trespassing" at the precinct meeting. During the Republican convention, delegates against draconian rule changes were kidnapped by their bus driver, driving them around the block until the voting was over.

    And both 2012 presidential conventions (both Demopublican and Republicrat) ignored votes from the floor (reported by Ben Swann). The mayor of Los Angeles, at the Democratic convention, was so flustered by the teleprompter, because its wording did not match reality, that he called for a second and third vote. Calls from the floor for a vote count (rather than by voice) were ignored in both conventions. The LA mayor was coached simply to ignore the votes and to read the script.

    Welcome to the new America. The Land of the Slave and the Home of the Coward. Too many want to hide behind the unPatriot Act. Ben Franklin warned us that those who give up liberty for a little security deserve neither.

    Selfish fear and greed has made America morally corrupt. We can change that, but it will take each of us changing ourselves. We need to become aware of what is going on, but we also need to love others as ourselves and to wish for them everything that they desire. This includes forgiving the psychopaths who are running America into the ground. Love really is the only answer. Everything else leads to greater suffering for all.

    1. BernietheMovieGuy profile image67
      BernietheMovieGuyposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with MOST of what you ranted on about.  Just one correction, though - It's Demolican and Republicrat.  Get the party names right next time!


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