Are Hillary and Sanders the best that the democrats can offer for the job of pre

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  1. bradmasterOCcal profile image29
    bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years ago

    Are Hillary and Sanders the best that the democrats can offer for the job of president?

    Hillary got disrespected in 2008 by her party, and Obama who wouldn't even make her VP. Now after her Sec of State controversies and legal issues she is now ready for the presidency. And Democrats are also advocating Socialism for the US, of course not much of a stretch after SS, Medicare, and Obamacare.

    Seriously, that is all the democrats have for their party, the country, and the people.
    Is the democratic party really giving their party voters a real choice, or even a good choice for the presidency?

    The Republicans are at the other extreme giving too many choices, and their selection le

  2. lovemychris profile image67
    lovemychrisposted 2 years ago

    Clearly you're not listening or paying attention. Oh wait, you make perfect sense from a tea party point of view. Legal issues my butt. Brought to you by Rupert Murdoch. Both Rice and Powell used private e mail, and Hilarys messages were not classified at the time. May have become so after, but what is she, psychic? Also Hillary is not advocating socialism at all. It's called fairness, something right wingers know nothing about, as evidenced by everything their prez does is fine, when it's a dem, it suddenly becomes "unconstitutional". Bernies socialism is nothing radical like where the Koch bros got their wealth-Stalin. His is of the European know, where their citizens actually matter more than hoarding wealth at the top. Obama did a fantastic job trying to "make America great again". Too bad he was stymied by Republicans who can't accept loss. Can't allow anyone else to make decisions, even though we the people gave him our vote. What's done is done, the truth has been revealed. We could be soaring to new heights here...clean energy, plenty of jobs fixing our decrepit infrastructure, public/private enterprise, equality for people of color, women, gays. But to quote Ralph Cramden, NOOOOOOO. The fate of this country was beholden to a philosophy of me only, only me.Welp, now you got your savior. A billionaire,who won't release his tax returns. And we have 2 people who speak for the common man. Uncommon as we all are.

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      LoliHeyposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Socialism is fairness?  So if you work your butt off to receive a 4.0 GPA, should you be forced to give up part of your grade average to another student who is failing because he or she slacked off and didn't feel like studying?

    2. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Socialism is subsidies for big biz, gentleman farmers,WAR, carried interest loophole. I'm talking about making sure every citizen fed, housed, medical and education.You know, everything to be alive. Not freebies for billionaires.Your pals on the dole

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      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm born in the Netherlands. A rich country. A Social Democratic country, with a good education system and cheaper then the US, affordable for all.
      The unemployed get a decent amount of money (which they can spent, which is good for the economy.)

    4. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Isn't that funny, how so many countries can support all their citizens for less money? I think have base life for all- you choose how far u want to take it.As u said, democratic socialism, not fascist socialism.And here we refer to unemployed as bums

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      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      yes it's strange, there are many reasons to become unemployed, and nobody likes it. You have to encourage the unemployed,give them  a new course/classes for free so they can find new work more quickly. Not stigmatize them.

    6. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Well here's the rub:and,what's been the plan all along, imo.The jobs they offer now are low paying ones.So low,its impossible to live on them.But,people are desperate,and will take what they can get.Unions and strong middleclass: Now=Cheap labor pool

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    PeterStipposted 2 years ago

    It depends what you are looking for.
    It is strange how socialism is used as a swearword. A word that contains the word social is seen as evil. Socialism means caring for those who need care. The elderly, the unemployed, people with problems. In a way it's a Christian way of looking at things. Take care for your fellow human being.
    It is strange that in a religious country like the US the oposite happens. Capitalism, especially in the form of the Free Market advocated by the Neo-Conservatives made a society based upon greed and egoism.
    Since the years of Reagan the US opened up the free market due to the influence of Milton Friedman. The consequences are the global crisis. The government has no control over the banks whatsoever, companies that can buy countries.
    The government today is ruled by money, lobbyists and companies. Money rules, it rules the law, rules universities. The Neo-conservative attitude created a world for two classes. the 1% and the 99%, the middle class is vanishing. And it is the middle class that makes a country.
    What I do not understand is why people vote for Trump, the 1% who doesn't care a damn about the 99%. If he comes to power, the ordinary people will suffer more (lower wages, worse contracts, higher energy bills etc.) and the super rich people will become richer. (lower company taxes, cheaper labor,cheaper fuel, less payment in insurance.) Trump will enrich himself if he people vote him as a presedent, that's his only goal.
    Clinton is a conservative but because the GOP went so far to the right she looks like a ordinary democrate. Bernie Sanders is a social democrate. He simply tries to get rid of the nasty things of Capitalism (yes every system has it's bad sides, capitalism too.) and give people a decent minimum wage, a fair insurance system, a good and cheaper education system  - that's not to bad, or is it ?
    In the eyes of an European the GOP is an extreme right wing party, with Cruz, Trump and Rubio.

    1. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly. It's somehow Christian to let people suffer and starve. These people know nothing of what USA stands for. It's a haven for the desperate, not robber barons!

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      PeterStipposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The holy American Dream!!! Get super rich on the expanse of the poor. Use immigrants to build your Trump tower and when the work is done despise and dump them.

    3. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Oh yes, one even said they have calves like watermelons (Rep King). Seems we never learn from No Irish Need Apply. Blue-bloods still rule.

  4. tamarawilhite profile image92
    tamarawilhiteposted 2 years ago

    O'malley was better that he was more moderate and more honest. And he dropped out of the race with less than 5% of the vote

    1. lovemychris profile image67
      lovemychrisposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I like him too. Maybe his time will come again. Also like Jim Webb. But it is what it is. Us against them, as usual. And don't even kid yourself, they all villify Democrats. No better!


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