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Has there ever been proof of a rigged presidential election in the United States

  1. Bedbugabscond profile image98
    Bedbugabscondposted 22 months ago

    Has there ever been proof of a rigged presidential election in the United States?

    With voter and polling place fraud on the rise it has done more than raised a lot of eyebrows. Now, more and more people are showing concern for a rigged election (Trump now, and possibly Hillary later). Many Americans still plan to vote, but less feel that their vote is secure or matters.

    It seems like citizens must allow the idea of a rigged election into their perceptual fields. That takes us into dangerous territory. In the history of the U.S.A, has anyone ever certifiably proven that a presidential election was rigged?

  2. gregas profile image81
    gregasposted 22 months ago

    I don't know of anyone ever having the nerve to actually come out and saying they were rigged and sticking with it. Greg.

    1. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      Knowing human nature &what people do to get power or what they want it's extremely naive for anyone to think there is no election fraud. eg http://www.timesunion.com/local/article … 142541.php

    2. Yossarian22 profile image59
      Yossarian22posted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Our very nation depends on our votes and our participation in the elections. Not even the Koch brothers can buy enough votes to sway an election.

    3. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      As I said in my answer here, you don't need millions of fraudulent voters to sway an election, you really need to pay attention.

  3. RonElFran profile image99
    RonElFranposted 22 months ago

    The idea that voting fraud is on the rise is emphatically not true. This has been adjudicated in court with the spate of voter ID laws enacted by various states, and then challenged in court. In no case has the state been able to point to any significant amount of in-person voter fraud in that state, or anywhere in the US. For example, in its court filing the state of Pennsylvania admitted in court that it was unaware of any such fraud in Pennsylvania or in any other state.

    That's why Donald Trump's claim that this election will be "rigged" is so corrosive. There is absolutely no evidence that this is the case, but the very claim will serve to undermine the belief of some people in the integrity of the US electoral system. Get enough of that, and the breakdown of our democracy becomes a possibility. This unsupported claim is totally irresponsible!

    1. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 22 months agoin reply to this

      I think people confuse election fraud & a rigged election. They are not necessarily the same. Clinton rigged her primary by bribing all the super delegates.Trump's reference is to the system being rigged, which has been demonstrated already

    2. Yossarian22 profile image59
      Yossarian22posted 21 months agoin reply to this

      How did she "bribe" the super delegates. They were following the rules of the DNC.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image28
      bradmasterOCcalposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Ronald
      We don't know who is voting in our elections, and in Ca they are not allowed to make any kind of checks on who is voting. So with 11 million illegal immigrants how do you know if they or other non citizens are voting. The courts are political

  4. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
    Dont Taze Me Broposted 22 months ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13134150_f260.jpg

    Read this and then tell me there has never been proof of election fraud in a presidential election. http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelal … tion_fraud

    or this

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/st … eople-vot/

    or this

    http://www.heritage.org/research/report … corruption

    In the election of 1876 both parties were trying to bribe Electors in the Electoral College, an historical fact.

    A far more common sort of fraud is abuse of absentee ballots. Sometimes you will find that all of the voters in a nursing home voted the same way. This is awful, criminal, and hard to prosecute, but have little impact on large elections. Typically this kind of thing is for very local elections that aren't actually partisan. But as more states move to more absentee voting we might see more of this or voter coercion.

    Some of the most recent cases of fraud have been where people registering others to vote destroyed the documents for those registering for one party. There was a case in Virginia where someone destroyed about 400 registration forms for Democrats while properly submitting the Republican ones. Here is the link: http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washin … s-gop-ties

    If you think a presidential election is so big that you'd have to have millions of people committing voter fraud to swing the election the fact is there are all kinds of fraud that ARE used to swing local elections which could also affect a presidential election if the election depends on a few key precincts in swing states. For example 333,000 Votes in 4 Swing States Would Have Given Romney the Presidency: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government … residency/

    So when you ask for proof, there is plenty of evidence that suggests election fraud happens in Presidential elections (not to mention common sense?) just like there is plenty of evidence Bill Clinton is a serial rapist or at least guilty of multiple sexual assaults, but prove it? Well when you are dealing with a corrupt system run by the "corruptors" to start with that can be difficult.

    PROOF Bernie Sanders Actually WON The Primary (Probably)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPISK6_xAbc#t=116

  5. Old-Empresario profile image81
    Old-Empresarioposted 21 months ago

    Do you mean rigged or stolen? They're all rigged.
    The following elections were stolen:
    1824
    1876
    1888
    1960
    2000
    2004

    1. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      The question is has there ever been proof? What's your proof?

    2. Larry Wall of BR profile image66
      Larry Wall of BRposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      The 1960 election was Kennedy vs. Nixon. That was a very close election, but I do not think it was rigged. I have seen no evidence showing that the elections were rigged. If an election does not turn out as you like, does not mean it was rigged.

    3. Bedbugabscond profile image98
      Bedbugabscondposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      Can you explain the difference between a rigged election and a stolen election?? Thanks.

    4. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      A rigged election is an election where the rules and/or practices of collecting and counting the votes are rigged to benefit one side or the other(eg super delegates that can be bought).Any election won by cheating or fraud is a stolen one

  6. Diana Lee profile image83
    Diana Leeposted 21 months ago

    If we look back through time at some other elections where there were machines not working right and votes not counted correctly, then we might say it was rigged. Too close, to count until at the very end may have had a different turn out if votes had not been missed. No one is going to admit anything was done on purpose.

    1. Dont Taze Me Bro profile image60
      Dont Taze Me Broposted 21 months agoin reply to this

      That is true but the best example of rigging an election is the Democrat party's implementation of "super" delegates. Just google [Hillary bribed super delegates] and you'll find multiple sources describing how she bought delegates!

  7. Larry Wall of BR profile image66
    Larry Wall of BRposted 21 months ago

    Keep in mind, Presidential elections are not decided by the popular vote. The ultimate decision is made by the Electoral College. That is why Al Gore, with more popular votes lost to George W. Bush. He did not get the votes in the right states.
    The Electoral College, in theory, can select an entirely different candidate if there is no agreement on the two major candidates. Some want to eliminate, as I did at one time. However, I think it provides a necessary safeguard to our election system.

 
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