Are you a “potential terrorist”?

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  1. ptosis profile image66
    ptosisposted 7 years ago

    Are you a “potential terrorist”?

    Conservative, libertarian, Christian or gun owner?  Opposed to abortion, globalism, Communism, illegal immigration, the United Nations?  Believe in conspiracy theories or living in the “end times”, visit alternative news websites? Answer yes to any of above then you are a “potential terrorist” with zero rights. Do you know all 72 types of 'extremist/potential terrorist'? Are these terms being used too broadly?

  2. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
    bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years ago

    The inference of potential terrorist based on your enumerations are not consistent with being a terrorist any more than any other. The determination of a potential terrorist is when there is a desire or plan to handle the situation through illegal and even deadly means.

    There is no need to expand the potential terrorist using emotional vectors created to distract the real and known potential terrorists.
    Namely, the Muslim Radicals, and possibly black men wanting to incite riots.

    While anyone can be a potential terrorist, the likelihood of those types that you have enumerated in your question are highly unlikely compared to the terrorists that have already acted.

    Sorry, but I see your question as a red herring to real terrorism, or just an academic inquiry. In both cases, there is no real benefit in pursuing 72 virgins, or 72 potentials when we have real terrorists as models or templates for such propensities of terrorism.

    1. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @ Brad Look @ … documents/  Each one of those  has a link to the gov't paper.

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I never said that the govt is doing a good job of finding terrorists before the fact, when you have examples of real terrorists, then profile them.The left wants us to believe everyone is racist but no one is a terrorist.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Brad, mass shooters are terrorists they are angry frustrated people with revenge thoughts against society. Most of them are not Muslims or black.

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Terrorists are not only shooters, and gun control is useless for any mass shooting. The point is that Muslim Radicals are a known and real threat. Academics and ideology is not going to change their quest to kill. I don't know your point?

    5. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @ Brad, Peter's point that there are Muslims don't have a monopoly of hatred, Old white angry men have irrational hate to. wink

    6. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Then my point is to focus on the ones that have been doing it and will continue to do it, and they are the Muslim Radicals Americans and around the world. Now we have an additional terrorist the black cop shooter. You get the one that is closer.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Brad there are living millions of Muslims on the world and only a tiny fraction are terrorists. When was the last Muslim terrorist action in the USA ?
      The problem is highly overrated and the mass shooting (terrorism) problem, is highly underrated.

    8. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      What do you know, you are not an American?

    9. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @ BrAD, That was such a piss poor answer, as if Americans have a monopoly on the correct answers. So disappointing. Check out the book "The Assassination Complex" from the library, and anybody including you can be on the watch list & not know it.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      it's a poor answer because you have to ask the question: how many Muslim terrorist actions are there yearly in the US? Or in Europe for that matter... Hardly any. The threat is highly overrated in the news because fear sells.

  3. ptosis profile image66
    ptosisposted 7 years ago

    @ Brad: I'm the one with the red herring?

    'In a large population of individuals… governments attempt to find the rare malfeasor [terrorist, for example] by assigning prior probabilities to individuals, in some manner estimating the chance that each is a malfeasor. Societal resources for secondary security screening are then concentrated against individuals with the largest priors’ [1] Press, W.H., ‘Strong Profiling is not Mathematically Optimal for Discovering Rare Malfeasors’, in PNAS, vol.106: no.6 (2009) 1716.

    AFAA 0910 EO & TI EPAC-3150 Extremism
    Seven Stages of Hate
    1 - Grouping - Irrational haters seldom hate alone.
    2 - Defining - Symbols, rituals, mythologies.
    3 - Disparaging -After constant verbal denigration, haters progress to the next, more openly hostile & bitter, stage
    4 - Taunting -Time cools the fire of hate, thus forcing the hater to look inward. To avoid introspection, haters use ever-increasing degree of rhetoric & violence to maintain high levels of agitation.
    5 - Attacking without weapons -prowling their turf seeking vulnerable targets
    6 - Attacking with weapons, weapons that require the attacker to be close to the victim, which further demonstrates the depth of personal anger.
    7 - Destroying- Mastery over life & death imbues the hater with godlike power & omnipotence, which in turn, facilitate further acts of violence. With this power comes a great sense of self-worth and value, the very qualities haters lack

    a. Character assassination
    b. Name calling & labeling
    c. Irresponsive sweeping generalizations
    d. Inadequate proof behind assertions

    The FBI Drowning In Counter-Terrorism Money, Power and Other Resources – Will Apply The Term “Terrorism” To Any Group It Dislikes And Wants To Control And Suppress, WashingtonsBlog 12.2012 … press.html

    Your digital debris left in the wake of the trail of every move you make cannot be scrubbed because the information hole in itself gives information that may lead you to become suspect.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This could also be applied to black race rioting, & now that they are followed by blacks hunting and killing cops, they could be deemed terrorists. lone wolf is hard to detect, at least focus on the criteria that most terrorists have

    2. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @ Blind Brad: It also can be applied to White supremacists, neo-Nazis and skinheads.  Why are you so seemingly unselfaware? I'm talking to you Brad, You're angry, bitter, wish for the good 'ol days when you had it good. Now we are all used to bes sad

  4. tamarawilhite profile image86
    tamarawilhiteposted 7 years ago

    Liberals are saying they are peace, love, tolerance, rational, smart, good. And this branding lets them call everyone who disagrees with them irrational, stupid, bad, intolerant, haters.
    The tactic makes liberals feel good for the associations with the brand and lets them deny the opposing party any legitimacy, while simultaneously smearing the people who hold those views.
    Now the fascism comes in. If you ban hate speech, of course conservatives you've already labelled as haters are now legally silenced. Groups of conservatives are now seen as equivalent to the KKK (who were Democrats, by the way, and killed 1 Republican for every 5 blacks), and seen as appropriate to silence and prosecute under the law as if a group calling for rule of law and smaller government would rise up to commit mass violence.

    However, it is actually the left that is violent, though they cloak it in the name of fighting hate.

    Black Activists Call for Lynching and Hanging of White People and Cops … -and-cops/

    Damning Emails Show Anti-Trump Protests Were Fueled by DNC … ed-by-dnc/

    ‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants, Pressured Into Silence To Not ‘Damage Cause’ … age-cause/

    Anti-Trump Mob Hunts Trump Fans Like ‘Prey,’ Assaults Police … like-prey/

    1. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations,  you just made my point!  The point being that anybody can call anybody a terrorist. Thank you.

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    PeterStipposted 7 years ago

    I'm a potential terrorist because I'm an artist.
    Artists, freethinkers and intellectuals are always seen as potential terrorists by the state because the criticise the state.
    Tell me the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter!! It all depends on the side your on. The resistance groups in Europe where seen as terrorist during WWII by Hitler. Osama Bin Laden was a freedom fighter in his own right because his country was occupied by an alien nation. But of course this is political incorrect to say.

    P.S. I call rampage teenagers with a machine gun shooting class mates a terrorist as well, but they are not pictured like that in the newspapers.

    You also have something like state terrorism and I would name Bush Jr as a state terrorist because he fought an illegal war against Iraq and killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with 9/11.
    All in all the word terrorist is multi interpretable, all depending on the political spectrum.

    1. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely true, the word 'lone wolf terrorist' is being used instead of criminally insane/or just criminal.

    2. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't understand the point?

    3. ptosis profile image66
      ptosisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @ Brad  It is a false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

    4. bradmasterOCcal profile image50
      bradmasterOCcalposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I am sorry but I don't understand you and the non American.
      What is the point, ignore the obvious Muslim and Black terrorism, for what other terrorist threats in the US?

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No Brad, terrorism is terrorism may this be executed by whites,blacks,tv evangelists,Muslims,Jews or whatever group. It is the action to undermine a society and terrorise the people of a neighbourhood,city or country.

  6. ptosis profile image66
    ptosisposted 7 years ago

    On fragmentary information alone the watch-list guidelines you can be guilty by mere association alone - with the exception of providing janitorial service and package delivery. read more


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