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Should it be Okay for a Christian to lie and create fake news about Hillary to p

  1. Misfit Chick profile image72
    Misfit Chickposted 16 months ago

    Should it be Okay for a Christian to lie and create fake news about Hillary to pay rent & bills?

    A New York Times story titled, 'From Headline to Photograph, a Fake News Masterpiece' - a Christian bought a Christian domain & created a fake story about a worker stumbling upon stacked boxes of ballots pre-marked for Hillary Clinton. It made him a bit of easy money & tainted the election further. Many Christians voted for Trump. Is it now Okay for Christians to do this kind of stuff? I know, all you have to do is ask Jesus for forgiveness & you can do whatever you want. But should anyone be able to write anything about anyone or anything? Isn't Free Speech supposed to protect the truth?

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  2. Aime F profile image85
    Aime Fposted 16 months ago

    Yeah it's totally fine, but only because it was Hillary.  Probably would've been okay if it was Obama, too.

    But totally unacceptable if it were Trump.  FAKE NEWS RAH RAH!

    1. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Aime, Have I erred in seeing U as a bright, mature woman? Just a thought, but U may B buying too much "love my Chris," non-stop whining. UR comment above is pure "tantrum." Hope U did not also stomp UR foot. Multi-millions do not accept fake news.

    2. Aime F profile image85
      Aime Fposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Admittedly not my most thoughtful answer, though I'm not sure it's that bad, comparatively speaking. But I guess it's nice that you hold me to high standards.  smile

    3. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      smile Thanks for proving I did not err. UR response gains U the right 2 just get FED-UP on occasion & blurt out the 1st thing that  comes. Now, THAT proves our humanness!  Been there, done that. "Comparatively speaking" UR right!  Not that bad!

  3. AF Mind profile image58
    AF Mindposted 16 months ago

    There are some cases of righteous deception in scripture if it was of dire importance. So in some cases it is. However this is not the case. I don't endorse Hillary, but I am going to be against her based on facts and not a made up site.

    1. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Well there R lots of people who took these 'facts' along with many others & saw them as true. Plus, most 'facts' were blown out of proportion with regards to Hillary compared to every other male politician. Facts & truth R apparently subjecti

    2. lovemychris profile image62
      lovemychrisposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      the top guys advising trump are proponents of fake new!! bannon and flynn. wait til you see trump tv...itll make rt blush. fake news, fake pretending to care about politics and protocol. its about money, money and money...taking it and making it..usa

  4. profile image60
    Reikatposted 16 months ago

    Christians are NEVER supposed to lie and create fake news ever.  It doesn't matter what it is about.  Unfortunately very many Christians in this country are not Christian.  This election has proven that.

    1. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you. I was really hoping that there were at least some Christians with spiritual integrity left.

    2. Patty Inglish, MS profile image92
      Patty Inglish, MSposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      I agree. integrity is the key.

    3. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Reikat..What an ideal world if NO ONE ever lied..ideal, but an impossible, ludicrous thought. Find me a Christian who doesn't lie..& I'll tell U, I'm sorry U passed away, but at least U're in the Heaven U believed in all UR life.

    4. profile image60
      Reikatposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Most people lie but creating fake news (alternative fact) is more than that.  We are now in the age of  '1984'.

    5. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Reikat. Slight correction:ALL people lie. Even 1 individual claiming 2 have never lied, has lied w/ that claim!"Fake News" has existed since the dawn of man. It is just lies in story form.Lies = Fake News = Lies.No splitting hairs here. Reality!

  5. tamarawilhite profile image92
    tamarawilhiteposted 16 months ago

    Not for a real Christian, but a liberal cultural Christian who puts liberal political ideology ahead of Christian requirements not to lie much less deliberately slander people might.

    1. Aime F profile image85
      Aime Fposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Did someone implant some device in your brain that would explode if you didn't insult liberals in every single one of your responses?

    2. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      LoL! You really are honed in on 'liberals', Tamara. I can believe Reikat's response that they are 'not real Christians'; but you're basically saying that liberals R liars with no morality & yet U hate ideas like Obamacare. So twisted. Find balanc

    3. tamarawilhite profile image92
      tamarawilhiteposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      The VA letting vets die on waiting lists while they put in solar panels and bought millions in art is what socialized medicine in the US would be. That's where Clinton's policies would take us. Do you want THAT future?

    4. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      The point is, we're your human neighbors - not evil. Obama managed to not implode the country & Trump probably won't, either. Things are not so cut & dry; and the GOP are NOT innocent or blameless & Dems are NOT responsible for every bad

  6. wingedcentaur profile image84
    wingedcentaurposted 16 months ago

    By asking ("Should it be okay for a Christian to lie and create fake news about Hilary...?), are you asking, or suggesting somehow, that the author of the fake news piece, being a Christian, should be censored or sanctioned by whatever denomination of the Christian Church he belongs to?

    Should he be sanctioned by "Christianity," or "The Christian Church," "as a whole," whatever that would mean?

    Are you asking if the Christian domain he bought to create the fake news story, should be somehow sanctioned or boycotted?

    What I am asking is this: Are you saying that a self-professed Christian's violation of ethical principles, somehow, bring down Christian-based punitive measures upon his head?

    If so, what should some of them be?

    1. profile image60
      Reikatposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      You are taking into a philosophical discussion and turning it into pedological blather.  No sanctions were ever mentioned.

    2. wingedcentaur profile image84
      wingedcentaurposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      My friend, the question, as asked, put the offender's Christianity front and center. The question seems to suggest that it was extra-wrong for the offender to plant the fake news story, because he is a Christian. I wonder why that is.

    3. profile image60
      Reikatposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Are you a Christian protectionist?

    4. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Excuse me but for the record, you 2 are arguing w/ one another over ZERO.  The author of this fake news article, college grad Cameron Harris from Maryland, is NOT a Christian but intentionally used a Christian website.  FACT

    5. wingedcentaur profile image84
      wingedcentaurposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you for setting the record straight, Paula. I must say, though, I was not arguing. I wonder what a "Christian protectionist" is.

    6. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      William....I'm happy to say, "I don't know" & I'd be willing to bet that Reikat doesn't either.....Might he have meant "apologist?"  In either case, who cares?  Have a good day!

  7. fpherj48 profile image77
    fpherj48posted 16 months ago

    Misfit......The reality is, it should not be "OK" for any individual (Christian or otherwise) to lie and create Fake News about any other individual (Hillary or others)! However, we can undoubtedly SEE that it is done, ~all the time~~by millions~~world-wide. As our Patty says, "Integrity is the key."
    Young recent college grad, Cameron Harris of Maryland, creator of this article, merely purchased a Christian website for his purpose.  He himself is not a Christian~ which mutes your question as described.  Why you worded your question as you did, highlighting the issue of "Christians lying" is a bit disingenuous to begin with. 
    Don't mean to send shock waves through the internet but Christians are no better, no more honest, no more trustworthy than any other type, form, or degree of human being. You might know that even Christians themselves will confess this fact. 
    However, this clever Cameron Harris intended to target Christian readers due to the fact that he realized they would be the most horrified yet drawn to such "shocking" news,based on his belief that Christians are largely hypocrites. He raked in an impressive amount of cash, succeeding in his goal.   End of fake news saga.   
    Freedom of speech & expression is precisely that..~ Freedom. It protects speech & expression ( whether truth or untruth) but ("Caution") it is not ABSOLUTE.  There exists specific limitations that can only be explained in legal terms within legal cases.The world wide web is free for your use to investigate these imitations to your heart's content.

    1. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      I stand corrected. When I read this article, there is a sentence, 'being a christian, myself' - and I read it as being from the author. However, the fact that he targeted 'easily-swayed' Christians on purpose demonstrates their lack of integrity.

    2. fpherj48 profile image77
      fpherj48posted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Misfit.Correction noted. However U say, "lack of integrity?" perhaps it is awareness & business savvy 2 realize a "goal" ($$ ?)To prey upon the weak, susceptible or falsely righteous is nothing NEW. Not very nice but goes on everywhere! "LIFE!"

    3. Misfit Chick profile image72
      Misfit Chickposted 16 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, and because there are so many people suseptible to false claims (or WANT to believe them); fake crap not only drove peeps to Trump, it made people not want to vote - and they didn't. Worse, Trump isn't listening - just lying. That's ok, too.

 
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