Have republicans lost their sense of humor?
Jimmy Kimmel’s performance last evening during the Academy Awards was absolutely hysterical. However, the internet trolls hated his comedy routine and claim he made the show more about politics. We live in a political world now and satire is normally a welcomed form of entertainment. Satire has been around for at least 2,400-years when Greek dramatist Aristophanes, sometimes called the father of comedy, satirized Athenian leaders and their conduct of the Peloponnesian War. Have we now become so thin-skinned that we can no longer laugh at our politicians?
Dennis, The democrats and the elite celebrities have gone beyond satire into social engineering. For some reason a lot of people think that celebrities are smart, knowledgeable about politics, but that is why it is not satire as well.
Mark Dice did a piece on his you tube channel. He was on a crowded beach and he asked people loaded questions. The load was using celebrities like Beyonce as the impetus of the question. And no matter how ridiculous the question, the people said yes, the celebrities must know.
There are too many people that can't separate reality from satire or whatever it is that these celebrities are doing. They are supposed to be getting awards for their business, a business which I find pathetic. They should spend more time on their craft and less in social engineering.
They are the elite, overpayed, underperforming, and just not entertaining. A lot of the latter is due to slip shod writing, producing and directing. They couldn't even orchestrate providing the correct answer for the best picture.
It is not thin skinned, it is about the latest generations being academic but without little or any common sense. That is one of the reasons why parents have to cover their medical insurance until they are 26.
Entertainment today is like the news, neither is real. TV shows are really trying to subliminally affect the minds of the viewers to conform with their ideology. I call it, social engineering.
It uses the well established methods of sales and marketing to make their product being accepted and bought by the viewer.
Repetition is a key element. Like how people that first go to work in a Trauma Center. At first, they are repulsed by the blood, the horrific sights of human agony and desperation, and the fatality of life lost in an instant. But after days of being exposed to this environment, they are acclimated and adjusted to it. They will eat in their blood soaked uniforms, and even after seeing people die.
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Putting a label on it makes it sound so SMART, LoL! Its been around for centuries, part of human culture across the board & NEVER going away. That's why thinking for yourself will always be necessary & being able to laugh at yourself is cruci
Did you even read the content of my comment. And making your comment a personal attack doesn't make a cogent argument.
I read it, which was why I replied like I did. Was it rude to say that the label made it sound smart? I know, many GOP don't appreciate brains. I've really been enjoying a much more non-PC attitude since Trump made it ok. It does make things more fun
It just wasn't what my comment was about
My comment addresses you seeming to think this new social situation is NEW. Politicians, Media & Celebrities have always tried to manipulate masses. Sometimes they succeed. Free thinkers have more say today but stifling is still a danger.
Er Brad, Donald is a celebrity who uses social engineering.
Get it yet? No not yet?
Mark Dice is a complete moron. Are you kidding? Is it the same Dice that thinks 9/11 was an inside job? Screaming about the Illuminati? I'm assuming so. Catherine, don't bother.
As a conspiracy theorist, Mark Dice has zero credibility. Webster's defines "elite" as people who have the most power, wealth, and success. Trump and his cabinet choices are the true elites.
Republican's have a sense of humor, its just more like your uncles who are overly-fond of the 'pull my finger' joke or children arguing like they do: "I know you are but what am I?!"
Their humor is as inappropriate as their twisted ideals & double-standards. Plus, (this has ALWAYS been a GOP trait) they don't like to be made fun of, as a rule. Its considered to be sacreligious & unpatriotic - basically, their idea of bad taste.
Not being fans of diversity (and even afraid of it), they listen to only one kind of voice and can't laugh at themselves - although they have certainly been enjoying the new non-PC attitudes that Trump brought back into the mainstream. Except, they really don't like it when the non-PC is against them, LoL! Go figure...
Maybe you've heard about this satirical website, its freakin hysterical! The funniest thing about it is how it has twisted the bloomers of so many T-fans they can hardly pull them down to take a pee! http://www.hillarybeattrump.org/
Republicans have a sense of humor. We laugh every time liberals or members of the Democrat party tries to make themselves relevant. Now THAT is funny!
Catherine - I think you really touched upon something regarding not being politically correct now. Those on the right just don't know how to handle democrats who fight dirty like they do. I'm in your corner.
I used to be right-wing, so I get it & feel that I have the right to make fun of them. We are relevant, just sleepers waking up. Thanks for that. Really. Wait till Trump-backlash hits next elections. GOP majority won't last. It'll be SO FUNNY!
I used to be a registered republican too, but changed after Reagan went after unions and started the nonsensical "trickle down economics."
Mike - I laugh when those on the right don't understand it's the "Democratic" Party., not "Democrat" party.
The sad thing about all this Trump backlash that you are predicting Catherine, is that when it comes to the corruption, trade agreements & a few others Trump is 100% right... so when they gridlock D.C. the ones who suffer will be you, I,& Ame
Ken - The sad thing is republicans have blocked us from seeing Trump's tax returns and are resisting an independent investigation into his ties to Russia. That doesn't seem very patriotic to me.
Dennis your arguments come across as foolish and petty, I point out that the dysfunction in D.C. is harming all Americans that are not in the 1%, and you want to ignore that statement to point out some trivial tripe... not worth more of my time.
Just wondering, as I do not watch the Academy Awards, if the jabs at Trump were in proportion to the jabs shot at Obama during his Presidency?
If they were proportionate, then you may have a point... if however, it was taboo to poke fun at Obama, and these same people instead waxed eloquently about him every chance they got, then I would say who-ever reacted to this change in how they treat the new President may be justified.
I know you haven't forgotten about the multitude of racial cartoons of monkeys and apes made about Barack, Michelle, and even their children. Remember during Obama's SOU address when a republican shouted, "You lie?" That wasn't satire!
Obama did a lot of lying, that's what he was good at, getting up there and reading from a teleprompter... the ACA will save you $2,400 per family, you will keep your doctor ... I will bring the country together and we will sing in perfect harmony.
The Supreme Liar in Chief is the Russian buddy who is currently in the White House.
Well Dennis, I am happy that you will have someone to rail against, and blame for every fault our country has. It must have been difficult for the last eight years to keep those rose colored glasses on and ignore everything going on for so long.
And then he wonders why we don't have a sense of humor about so-called "satire" which is nothing more than "sanctimonious" drivel.
My glasses were clear when 18+ million got insurance under the ACA when unemployment went from 10% to 4.6% with 75 months of steady job growth, deficit cut from 9.8% to 3.2&, saved the auto industry and got Osama bin Laden, with no scandals.
The 2017 Oscars was the third-least-watched show of the 21st century. Their ratings this year were at an all-time low. Those, like yourself and Catherine, who enjoy mockery and derision, couched under the name of satire, were apparently quite dizzy with laughter….but most people had better things to do, like mop the floor or chop vegetables for dinner---they thought that would be more interesting than listening to sanctimonious speeches from entitled hosts and actors, who barely graduated from high school. But hey, they sure know how to memorize lines, don’t they?
Anyway, the disinterest of the majority of television watchers (nearly 300 million people) tells me most people have lost their sense of humor too, not just Republicans.
Well, at least I hear the Oscars had a funny ending. Something about a mix-up about who actually won Best Picture? All those lofty speeches----only to have mud on their faces afterward. That was probably good for a few laughs. ….or did you suddenly lose your sense of humor after the mud was thrown back in their faces?
As someone said, long ago the Oscars were elegant, had class, had real stars... now its a bunch of nobodies, who are celebrities, most of whom can't really act, who like to make statements to all of us about how we should view the world...its crap.
Not to mention, their own estates are locked up tighter than a drum. I think their body guards could attest to their lack of inclusion. Otherwise, they'd open their gates to all. It's easy to embrace diversity from their very safe and distant towers.
You shouldn't make assumptions. I was busy making my wife homemade spaghetti sauce, and meatballs, with a tossed salad while my wife watched the runway, Timberlake, and Kimmel. Price Waterhouse Cooper made the error. They are huge GOP donors.
I haven't watched the Oscars in years & I certainly didn't this year. I DID watch the parts peeps were talking about on YouTube, afterwards. It was kind of fun to have a laugh at your righteous, know-it-all, manipulated expense.
Hello Dennis, Long time no see. Well, if you ask me (and you actually did ask!) I feel just about everyone has lost their sense of humor within the past year. Such turmoil, disagreement and anger. It's become unbearable to me. In fact, about 3 weeks ago, I vowed to stop listening, reading or paying much attention to all the craziness.
My fingers are crossed that it all begins to calm down and quiet down a bit....sooner rather than later.
I should think that the average American adult can only tolerate so much of the bitterness, arguing, protesting and general unrest. I can certainly say I'm overwhelmed and just needed to step back for a while.
As for the Oscars and Jimmy Kimmel....I'm afraid I didn't see any of it. I've never been much of a fan of the Academy Awards. I do like Jimmy Kimmel very much. I'll probably see some video clips here and there on the awards show last night. Celebrities, movie stars and people of such astronomical wealth, may as well live planets away from your average, ordinary person like myself. I may enjoy their talents & like their movies, etc. but anything they have to say about our country, politics and the issues that affect all of US ordinaries (But surely NOT any them, at all!) I would have no interest in whatsoever. They need to talk with one another, not with me.
It's good to see you. Glad you're doing well. Peace, Paula
I agree. Just because a person is fabulously rich doesn't make that person's comments any more smarter than the rest of us.
Great to see you too, Paula. I love political satire. It's odd that those on the far right who slung stones, arrows, and racial slurs at Obama suddenly think satire about Donald isn't funny. It's a classic example of double standards.
In all fairness, I'm taunted that I'm a living "double standard" simply 4 being an Independent. I voted 4 BHO! LOL..so, if I threw stones, it was at myself! Satire & politicians have been a thing forever. I hope we never lose our sense of humor
Paula - I was originally a republican, but after Reagan I switched to the Democratic party. I'm an independent voter but not registered as one because I would be prohibited from voting in the primaries.
I'm vocal & proud 2B Independent & register as such. Primaries be damned. I can implicitly trust my gut. Every single candidate I have ever voted for, has been the victor. That's a record I can rely upon. If it works, don't change it!
Paula, as you well know, Obama won last time around, but American's lost because of him. So, it is not about picking the 'winner' unless America and Americans win too.
American's didn't lose bcuz of Obama - just a handful of peeps like you have been brainwashed to believe that. You've jumped thru all their hoops right on que. Soon it will be time to bark along with the cartoon music. I'm enjoying the show.
Quite right, Yves.....thus my comment about throwing stones at myself. My intent was to merely state that I always choose the one who wins..not necessarily does a great job! Catherine, UR frustration tantrums R immature & annoying. Shut it!
I think that having the ability to change our beliefs based on new information truly makes us independent free thinkers. That's just my two cents.
Lol. I hadn't read the "throwing stones" comment, Paula. Thanks for the explanation.
Dennis....I wasn't raised Republican. I chose Republican.
Shut it? LoL! I'm just getting started... I've been a good PC girl for far too long; and T-fans have released the bad girl, within. Their mouthy leader gave us all permission a while ago, I'm just now catching up. Why should I play nice?
What people find funny depends a lot on their values. There's a reason we say, "It's funny because it's true." We laugh when we feel the joke has hit a nerve.
For that reason, people with incommensurable world views will not find the same things funny.
For example, I don't find anything funny that turns on the assumption that all whites are racist. This is so far from my personal experience that it doesn't have the ring of truth. It just seems like a gut punch coming out of left field.
There are some conservative comedians who get called Nazis. It's the same problem ... incommensurable world views.
So no, sir, I have not lost my sense of humor. It's just that it's impossible to joke with people who are not even on the same planet as yourself philosophically. There has to be at least a smidge of common experience to joke about.
I don't think we laugh when something has hit a nerve. I think that is when we stop laughing. That being said, there is nothing funny about ignorance 'sold' as satire. Some have no idea of the difference between humor & bullying. And so they laug
Long time since TV humor has been clean & non-offensive. We laugh when a nerve hits the OTHER person - its funny to hurt or embarrass others, right? It also makes the jokers 'feel heard'. We probably shouldn't expect the jokies to laugh.
I'm not surprised that is your definition of humor.
Not my definition - stop acting like you don't know what the humor of hollywood is like. SNL & any popular comedian you have heard of. They aren't nice cuz 'nice-funny' doesn't make money; nor does it offend people or make them think.
Yves - Trying to distinguish the difference between humor and bullying is oddly humorous (not in a satirical way) considering we have the biggest bully of our time now occupying the Oval Office. Apparently, some have blinders on.
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