Iranians Threaten to "Name Names" of bribed American Politicians

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   RJ Schwartzposted 6 years ago

   President Trump has announced America will withdraw from the Iranian Nuclear Deal.  We already know that John Kerry is acting as a rogue shadow diplomat trying to salvage the deal.  The UN Chief Nuclear Inspector resigns suddenly without giving a reason.  Now, Iran’s Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hossein Jaberi Ansari has threatened that if "western politicians" do not put pressure on the Trump administration to keep the accord, the Iranian regime will leak the names of all officials who accepted bribes to pass the disastrous deal in the first place.  This will likely result in both of the major Parties being hurt to some degree and possibly the biggest news story in American Political history.  Would you like to see the Iranians "spill the beans" or not, and why?
   
   

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Fine by me. Drain that swamp.

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         JAKE Earthshineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         A pre-requisite to 'draining the swamp' must be pumping the toxic waste out of the oval office cesspool:

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            RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Try to stay on topic please - this thread isn't about the current President, but the lawmakers who, during the Obama Administration were purported (no evidence has been shown to this point)  to have taken bribes to support the Iran Nuclear Deal - possibly from both sides of the political spectrum.  I'm sure you can find plenty of other threads in which you can attack President Trump, if that's your personal agenda.  Thanks!

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               Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Who is "purportedly" saying this, Ralph? I've a good idea who...

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                  RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  H.J.Ansari Zarif’s senior advisor: “If Europeans stop trading with Iran and don’t put pressure on US then we will reveal which western politicians and how much money they had received during nuclear negotiations to make the Iran Deal happen.”
                  
                  https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05- … clear-deal
                  
                  https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/05/13 … pen-633970

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                     Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Thought so! Do you have any reputable--meaning trustworthy--links to back up your claim?  Both of those are rightwing jokes.  Worse than Fox News, if you can imagine that! 

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                        wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        You would prefer a left wing joke?  Give it time - as soon as a politician with an "R" attached is named they'll jump right on it.

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                           promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           The reply dodges his point.

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                        RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Randy - I'm not trying to make this into Right versus Left - it's merely an unproven statement being floated by some media sources based on quotes from an Iranian - take from it what you want or ignore it.

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            Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            

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               wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Loss of the white house
               Loss of political power
               loss of some of the ability to dictate to others.
               loss of control over others
               Loss of some of the creeping socialism they prefer
               loss of the ability to disarm the people
               loss of illegal aliens that might vote Democrat
               loss of some of the poor they have chained to them (hopefully)
               
               The list is long.

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                  Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Those losses are all what I perceive to be gains for the integrity of the nation. Trump is a bit bumbling and goofy, but I couldn't be much happier with the guy.

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                     wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, yes, they are gains for the country.  But still why the left is resisting, for to the political machine of the left they are all losses.
                     
                     I wouldn't have used the term "bit", though.  Maybe "a whole lot", or "really, really".  I don't like the man as a person, but as a president he is doing a great deal for us.

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                        Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Exactly. That seems to be a huge issue with so many people, this notion that Donald isn't so likeable. Well, it is pretty immature to think that someone has to be liked by an individual in order for that person to get a job he was hired for done.
                        
                        Where does this idea that one must like the POTUS even come from? I guess I don't care. I never thought I'd see a POTUS like Trump. I'm thankful.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  You forgot-Loss of integrity morality, respect, trust of allies and the list goes on and on. Of course. Spanky fans don't care for those aspects.

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               promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               You asked, so I'll try.
               
               1. Decline in unemployment rate under Obama: 5.2%; under Trump: 0.9%.
               
               2. Korean War end: 1953 according to all historians and history books.
               
               3. Largest tax cut in history: massive increase in national debt and major violation of Republican principles.
               
               4. Isis gone: Yep, under Obama, who also got rid of Bin Laden.
               
               5. Black unemployment rate: See #1.
               
               6. Trillions coming back to America. Yep, for stock buybacks that will enrich CEOs but not everyone else.
               
               7. Dramatic deregulation: I'm a small business owner and I haven't see one iota of deregulation.
               
               What is the left resisting? Actually, it's 65% of the country that knows Trump  got elected more by Vladimir Putin than by informed, rational and open-minded American voters.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  You'll get nowhere with facts, Pro. They're accustomed to Sean' Hannity's BS. By the way, Spanky no longer watches anything but Fox now on the advice of his staffers. He also speaks to Hannity every night after Sean's show. Ever wonder why Spanky sounds like Hannity from the night before.
                  
                  What an extremely frightening thing knowing Sean is simply a former contractor who fell off a roof and decided he knew something about politics and is advising Spanky!    And some idiots think his wild conspiracy theories are for real and spread them around as gospel.   sounds like a bad novel!

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                     promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     It's scary how some people believe propaganda because they want to believe it and not because it's true.

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                  Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  NPR, of all stations, had a program where they were spreaking (in amazement) about the strong job market, now. NPR, of all stations, was taking about how it hadn't looked this good in 18 years. And,NPR, of all stations, credited it to Trump.
                  
                  I only point that out because even though it is my go to station when driving they are very anti Trump. So, one tends to believe Trump is responsible, when a biased station admits it.
                  
                  I would also point out that ISIS was still around when Trump took office and only a fool would not give him credit for the breakthrough in Korea. If this results in a unified Korea I would hope even the haters would have the good sense to give credit where due. Unless, you'd rather have a mad man lobbing nukes our way.

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                     Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     Or a mad man lobbing nukes the other way. Either is bad...
                     
                     And yes, Obama had to work very hard to get the economy and job market back after some morons put Dubya in office for two terms and left a mess.

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                        Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        It's funny, because I agree that strengthening the economy is not an overnight thing. But, if the voices on the left that I do trust credit Trump with a victory, I trust them to be taking into account factors I tend to not give a lot of credit to.
                        
                        Obama did little, in my opinion, to strengthen the economy. We aren't a people who don't search for ways to persevere and succeed. And we do look to what our leader aspires to achieve. Reagan pulled up our of our malaise, in his time. In many ways. Perhaps, Trump's only victory will be changing business's outlook, which has helped the job market immeasurably. But, only those who willfully close their eyes to facts will not see that Trump has been a positive influence on the creation of jobs. More so than Obama was.
                        
                        Either way, my faith in NPR had been restored, seeing as how a hard left ideology is capable of putting ideology aside in order to present news they'd rather weren't news.

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                           promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           If the Obama administration did little to improve the economy after inheriting a disaster, then why did it improve over his 8 years in office?
                           
                           Does the federal government have no influence over the national economy?

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                              Wesman Todd Shawposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Just like it is now an established fact that FDR's policies slowed recovery from the depression, it is also known that Obama's regulations slowed recovery from the great recession. Yes, government has power over the economy - by exercising that power they always slow economic growth. When government reduces itself, or simply gets out of the way, the economy always improves at a quicker clip.

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                                 promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 Point well taken. I agree that bad regulations can inhibit an economy. Good regulations also can protect it.

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                              Live to Learnposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              The economy did improve, but not as much as it could have and a lot of the 'improvement' came from dropping names off of the unemployment roles, of people who were long term unemployed.
                              
                              I am not, in any way, attempting to downgrade Obama's vision but one of them was not an understanding of how to facilitate a robust recovery effort.

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                     promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     North Korea does what China tells it to do. It's truly foolish to think otherwise.
                     
                     It's also wishful thinking that NPR as a network gives all of the job market credit to Trump when the numbers say otherwise. It's more likely NPR was interviewing a Trump supporter.
                     
                     Here are the annual unemployment rates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the beginning of the Bush administration through last year.
                     
                     Facts matter a lot more than wishful thinking.
                     
                     2000    4.0
                     2001    4.7
                     2002    5.8
                     2003    6.0
                     2004    5.5
                     2005    5.1
                     2006    4.6
                     2007    4.6
                     2008    5.8
                     2009    9.3
                     2010    9.6
                     2011    8.9
                     2012    8.1
                     2013    7.4
                     2014    6.2
                     2015    5.3
                     2016    4.9
                     2017    4.4

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      promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      If you believe the very thorough analysis below, there is nothing to spill. An Iranian-American organization made legal campaign contributions to members of both parties.
      
      http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter … ors-took-/

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         RJ Schwartzposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         Why would anyone believe this is fact as opposed to any other source?  I didn't see an actual response to the question promisem - what are your thoughts?  Here, I'll repeat it for you - Would you like to see the Iranians "spill the beans" or not, and why?

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            promisemposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I already replied to your question. The research from the credible source on the attached link used legal experts to explain that there are no beans to spill.
            
            Please read the entire article.

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      Hxprofposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I'm good with that.  "Let er rip" as they say.

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   wildernessposted 6 years ago

   Pay the Dane-geld, never get rid of the Danes.

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   ahorsebackposted 6 years ago

   Shaheen , Franken ................These senators should be arrested and charged with bribery , conspiracy and even treason .   THis IS the kind of corruption that ALL Americans have been talking about for decades .   Yet in today's B.S. media all we seem able to discuss is Trump Derangement issues .
   
   No wonder the Big Blue Wave in November is reduced to  a ripple at this point .

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   Readmikenowposted 6 years ago

   

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   Readmikenowposted 6 years ago

   

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      ahorsebackposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Why is THIS so hard for liberals and anti-Israelis to grasp this ?

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   MizBejabbersposted 6 years ago

   I guess my answer is that I don't really care either way because I doubt if anyone named would be shamed, slapped, or punished in any way, including those on both sides of the fence. I do wonder what Tom Cotton's problem with the Iranian Deal was anyway. I guess he wasn't offered a bribe.

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      Randy Godwinposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Those cheapskates!! 

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